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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
Betty’s great grandfather, Benedict Dann, born 1851, came from Frankfort, Germany, and emigrated
to Savanna, GA. Her maternal great-grandfather, Nathan Bloom, born 1840 in Germany, came to
Kentucky as a traveling salesman, and his family became very involved with Adath Israel.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
Betty’s father, Dann Byck was born in 1899 in Atlanta, GA, and her mother, Mary Helen Adler, was
born in 1907 in Louisville, and her family was from Louisville.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Betty was born in Louisville on 7/1/19341 English was spoken in her home.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
Betty lived at 3321 Greenhill Lane until she married. Her brother Dann was born in 1936 and her
sister Lucy was born in 1932. Lucy died three weeks before Betty’s husband, Steve, (2008) and her
brother Dann died 6 months later (2009).
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
Betty’s father came to Louisville in 1902 when he was two, but he never talked about his past.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
Betty’s neighborhood was very upscale—few Jews and no shops. The Temple was on 3rd Street.
The family used their car for traveling, as well as buses and streetcars. They went by car to the zoo
in Cincinnati and during the war they took buses due to the gas shortage. Her sister Lucy read books

�all the time, but Betty was on the run constantly. She and Dann were inseparable. He loved her
unconditionally and she protected him. She became closer to her sister as a teenager.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
During the ’37 flood the maid walked Betty and siblings down Mockingbird Valley to see the water.
Her father had to row a boat to her aunt’s house. There was no electricity for a month, and the maids
had to cook on a little wood-burning stove in the basement. They had company over when the lights
finally came back on and when they flickered everyone’s eyes squinted.
8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?

When Betty was 14 she went to a ranch in Montana and continued to do this for four summers six
weeks each. She loved riding and got her own horse after she married.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
Her parents were not religious and seldom went to Temple. The children lit Hanukkah candles in the
kitchen with the maids, and her father went dove-hunting on Yom Kippur. The children did go to
Sunday school, but were pulled out of class for Hebrew studies. Betty was confirmed but does not
keep up with Sunday School friends.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
See q. 9
Passover Seder was always at Aunt Louise Flarsheim’s.
11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday School with you?
See q. 9

�12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
Betty went to Emmet Field Elementary through 6th grade, Barrett Junior High for 7th grade and
Kentucky Home School for Girls on Douglass across from A.J. for high school. It was a very happy
time in her life. There were 19 girls in her class and she was close to everyone. For college she
went to Miami University in Ohio and loved it. She majored in Sociology. Later she trained
employees for her parents’ store and volunteered at St. MAMS intervention services. She went to a
workshop and then was asked to work with the Director. She soon realized how dysfunctional
alcoholic families were and knew she needed more training, so went to Spalding for Counseling
Psychology and her Master’s in 1985. Most of her training was in interventions and co-dependency.
St. MAMS was taken over by Baptist Hospital, and Betty did all the counseling for families. In 1989
she joined a group of five women and worked with them for 15 years. She did 3-4 interventions a
year, but mainly did mental health counseling. Ninety percent of Betty’s interventions were
successful, i.e. they went into treatment. Interventions were very emotional, lots of crying, sometimes
even Betty.
13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
Betty met her husband Steve on a blind date. One of her friends was engaged to a guy at Ft. Knox
who was a friend of Steve’s. He told Steve he had to meet Betty (said she had a great body). Betty
was 5’9” and she and her mother had a code. If her blind date was short, she’d say “Betty, he’s here”
and if he was tall, she’d call her Betts. Steve was tall so her mother called her Betts, and Betty put on
her heels. Steve was sitting down when she came in and looked short. He was very tan and looked
like an Arab. Then he stood up, they looked into each other’s eyes, and both were smitten. They
dated for 11 months and then were married at home by Dr. Waller, one of his first weddings. Betty
and Steve have three children. Eric (53) is chief investment officer at Aegon and married to Sharon.
They are very observant Jews, live in Louisville and they have three children: Judy (17) who is going

�to NYU; Aaron (15); and Sylvia (10). Sally (50) is her mother’s right hand. She works for Valpak as a
national trainer and regional manager. She lives in Louisville and has two children: Katie (22); and
Chris (20). Sally is married to Todd Whitchurch who also has two children: Haley (17); and Tyler
(19). Tyler and Chris go to U of L and will be room mates. Jennifer (49) works as a headhunter for
Human Resources Company and is married to Jim Kaplan. They have three children: Elle (16);
Jarrett (14); and Alec (12). They live in Huntsville, AL.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
As a child Betty had little contact with the Jewish community. She had no Jewish friends, but
belonged to one Jewish Club which she hated because all they did was argue.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
She had one experience with anti-Semitism. In 7th grade she was playing softball and caught a ball in
the outfield. Some girl yelled, “Don’t touch that ball, a dirty Jew caught it.” Her mother told her if the
girl hit her, Betty had permission to hit her back.
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
Betty’s father was 42 when WWII began and he decided to join the army. He was gone for three
years and her mother ran Byck’s which was downtown. In 1946 her mother decided to open a
suburban store in St. Matthews. Her father was stationed at Camp McCall in North Carolina and was
in charge of the PX. He then went to Fort Bragg.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Betty’s trip to Montana was a spiritual experience. So also are her high school memories—a feeling
of being connected, though not necessarily to a higher power. She sometimes felt this connection
with clients, and in Africa, looking at a baby zebra’s head and seeing every line so perfect she felt
there must be a higher power greater then herself.

�18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
Betty’s sister got breast cancer at the age of 37. She had radiation, but the cancer returned, and in
1975 doctors took out her ovaries and did more radiation. Her cancer didn’t return but she was over­
treated and over-dosed for every illness which caused many other problems and constant illness.
After her sister got sick, Betty felt her own mortality and thought about how she was living her life and
realized she had just copied her mother and sister. She began to do things her own way, changed
the sexist way household chores were being done, and got caught up in the women’s liberation
movement.
When she was young, Betty was a jock. Her hobbies were movies, sports and horseback riding,
tennis and golf. Now she paints and takes classes at The Temple.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
Memories are mainly of travel. When she was 18 the whole family went to Europe and they took their
own station wagon as they were all tall people and the European cars were very small. Betty and
Steve took the kids on many trips in the States, and went themselves to Europe, Africa and China.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
Betty would like to be remembered as someone who helped some people better their lives, and as a
good, loving mother, a wonderful wife, a loving Grammy. She would like to leave for her children and
grandchildren a respect for people, love of family, and an ability to find joy in their own lives.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
1. I am
with
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Laura Koby and Anita Weber^X
, I am conducting an interview
Betty Jane Fleischaker
for the JFVS archives
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2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My paternal grandfather was bom in Cincinnati in 1862. My maternal grandfather
was bom in Prague in 1862 as one of 21 children (2 mothers). He came to NY, NY in
1879 when he was 17 years old, and worked in a cigar factory. He then moved to
Chicago and got into the furniture business, becoming the highest paid furniture
salesman in the U.S. and getting quite wealthy.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My mother, Helen Steiner, was bom in Chicago on 9/ 1/1920. My father, David
Henry Spritz, was bom in Cincinnati.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?

I was bom on 9/9/1920 in Terra Haute, Indiana and lived there for only 3 weeks.
We spoke English in my house with knowledge of German. I had one natural brother
and an adopted brother (15 years old).
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

My neighborhood in Cincinnati was like Village Circle Drive here in Louisville. My
school was 90% Jewish and 10% black. I had a chauffer drive me to school in the
20’s, but my family lost everything in the ’29 crash.
Phillip Davidson was the rabbi of my temple on Rockdale Avenue, which was a long
walk from home.
There was one drugstore, Rubinthals Drug Store, near my house but no grocery store
within walking distance.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

We were affected greatly because we were already poor.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

We traveled by car to Chicago, Terra Haute, the Midwest to visit family, and in 1928
we drove to Canada.

�8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

My family was not very involved in the temple, but we were members.
9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

Christmas was observed, and we went to the High Holidays at my temple.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

I was confirmed at my Sunday school in 1933.
11. What is your educational background? What was your career?

I went to Public School in Cincinnati and attended many colleges. I started at Smith
College, but my family could not afford to keep me there, so I transferred to the
University of Cincinnati, and then to the University of Louisville and received a
degree in economics in 1968.
I then was forced to find a job after my divorce, but returned back to school and in
December of 1999 I got my masters in liberal arts from Bellermine College where I
continue to take courses.
I was the deputy director of the parenting program and was president of the first
HMO healthcare of Louisville, but was fired at the age of 60, at which point I began
consulting.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

In the summer of 1941 I came to Louisville with friends to see the Fleischaker
family. On that trip I met my future husband Leopold Fleischaker and we began to
date and got married 11/29/41 in Cincinnati.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I have 4 children 3 boys and 1 girl.
My husband and I were divorced after 24 years of marriage.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

I was the Chair of the junior high school committee on the Center board, the NCJW
president of the Louisville section in 1952, the vice president of the hail organization
in 1959, and worked with Jewish Hospital in 1973 because of my involvement with
healthcare of Louisville.
One of my sons is on the JCC board, but other than that my children are not involved
in the Jewish community.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

�My father was in WWI, and my husband and two brothers were in WWII.
My family was not affected by the Israeli wars.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

I don’t have any spiritual memories, but at 43 I attended a NCJW leadership seminar
where Yitz Greenberg spoke and made me feel Jewish.
17. What interests do you have?

18. What are your favorite family memories?

My father telling me I could do anything that I wanted to.
Passover Seder I have the whole family over, which totals about 27 people.
Living with my daughter Beth and my two granddaughters, created a very close
bond, and it gave me memories I will never forget.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I want people to know how close I am to my children. I want to be remembered as,
“The sweetest and most beautiful woman in the world.”
The values I would like to pass on are decency with a sense of justice, acceptance of
all kinds of people, and a love of education.
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Bettv7 Jane Fleischaker
Betty Jane Spritz Fleischaker, 96, died peacefully on November 18,
2016.
She is survived by three children: Jon (Kim Greene), Marc (Phyllis), and
Beth Creamer; 11 grandchildren: Philip (Hiroko), Stuart (Susan), Eleanor
(Peter), Rebecca, Greg (Celia), Daniel (Rachael), Jeff (Ophira), Deborah
(Aram), Julia (Mike), Erin (Josh), and Dana (Graham); and 22 great­
grandchildren.
Memorial service will be 3:30 p.m., on Monday, November 21, at The
Temple, 5101 US Hwy 42. Visitation is 2-3:30 p.m.
Gifts in Betty's memory may be made to National Council of Jewish
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1. I am Sue LaSalle. I am conducting an interview -with Betty Frankel Younger K
for the JFVS archives

2. Can you. tell me how your family originally came to this country and when it was"!

My Maternal Grandfather was born in this country. His name was Nathan Wile,__
My Maternal Grandmother, Bettie Strauss, was born in Germany^ she came to this
country at age sixteen and was brought to Louisville by relatives who lived here,
She was the first President of Brith Shalom Sisterhood,
My Paternal Grandfather, Gustaf Frankel, came from Meinheim, Germany, which
was near the Alsace-Lorraine border, AH Jews in Meinheim took the name Frankel,
My Paternal Grandmother, Lillian Kaufman, was born in Louisville, As an infant,
during the Civil War, she, her sister and parents went by covered wagon to Indiana
in order to escape Morgan’s Raiders, They settled in New Castle, Her parents later
had six more children, all boys, My paternal grandparents were charter members of
Adath Israel,

3. What were your parent’s names and where were they born?
My mother, Carolyn Wile, was born in Louisville, KY in 1898. She had two
brothers, She died in 1974,
My father, Raymond Francis Frankel was born in Louisville, KY in 1893, He had
five brothers and 2 sisters. He served in World War I; he died in 1980.

4. What is your birthdate? What language (s) were spoken in your home? Where did you
live then? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents? - Uncles? Aunts?
Sisters?
I was born March 2,1924, on Southern Parkway and Woodlawn. I have an older
brother, Raymond Francis Frankel, Jr., who was bom in 1921. Raymond lives is
Los Angeles, CA, with his wife. My mother’s mother lived with us for several years
before she died. English was the only language spoken in our home.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was there a
neighborhood grocery? Drugstore?

�We lived where I was born, above Dad’s drugstore on Southern Parkway, until I
was 14. Mom worked in the drugstore along with my father. We walked
everywhere and had many friends, none Jewish. We would spend every Saturday
night with my grandmother,so that we could walk to Sunday School on Sunday. It
was on these Saturday nights at my Grandmother’s house that I learned to knit and
crochet, which I have continued to do for most of my life.
It was here, at our house on Southern Parkway, with it’s long backyard that my
father developed one of the first shopping centers in Louisville.

In 1938, when I was fourteen years old, my Mother decided we should move to
Village Drive where there were more Jewish families. We went to Atherton and had
lots of Jewish friends. We walked to school and Sunday School? the popular
meeting place was Ermins.
6. Ifyou wished to travel, what kind of transportation did you use? Did you travel when
you were young? Ifso, where?

Our first big trip was in 1934. Mother took Raymond and I to the Chicago World’s
fair by train.

I went to a YMCA camp, Camp Shalon - there were no other Jewish campers there.
Any other trips were combined with business.
7. Was your family involved in synagogue/temple?

Dad was on the Adath Israel board. Their biggest interest was in the Beechmont
area, where they worked and had property. They were instrumental in developing
the area.
8. What holidays and rituals were observed?

We recognized the Jewish Holidays, but we were not observant We also celebrated
Christmas.
9. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

We attended Sunday School at Adath Israel. Dr. Ran was the Rabbi. We were
confirmed, but neither Raymond nor I were Bar/Bat Mitvah.

10. What was your educational background? What was your career?

�I attended Girls High School until we moved from Southern Parkway and then I
went to Atherton until I graduated. I had planned on going to Marjorie Webster
College in Washington, DC, but, the Navy took it over when the war broke out, so I
ended up going to the University of Louisville. There, I received an Associate of
Arts degree.

During high school, I worked after school as a “Girl Friday” in Dr. Morris Weiss,
Sr’s, office. I married before I completed my degree. After my children were born ,
I got my Real Estate license and sold houses.
11. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I was born, raised and Married in Louisville.

12. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married? Did you
have children?
Alvin and I met in 1939., before I graduated from High school. We had known each
other from parties; when a mutual friend arranged a date , we started going
together regularly.
Alvin and I were married October, 13,1943, at the Brown Hotel in Louisville,
Kentucky We adopted two children: Robert Alan, March 20,1950, and Peggy Sue,
August 12,1951; and I gave birth to two children: Sally Kay, February 9,1953 and
Jon Paul, June 6,1955. Bobby died September 2,1993. He had 3 children, the
oldest of whom, Marci, has given birth to twin sons. Peggy has 2 daughters and a
grandson. Sally has one son and one stepson. Jon has 2 sons.
13. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community? Was your whole family
involved?

I was involved in scouting; did some substitute teaching; served on the Sisterhood
Board at Adath Jeshurun; worked for National Council of Jewish Women and took
cards for the Federation

14. How was yourfamily affected by the world wars? Wars in Israel?
My Father was in World War I while he was engaged to my Mother. Alvin served
in World War H - he was in the service when we got married - our plan was for me
to travel with him, but he was shipped to the Pacific Theater six days after our
wedding. He was there for 27 months. He was discharged January, 1946. He
developed malaria and had 8 attacks in one year. Because of these attacks, we did
not think we’d be able to have children, so we decided to adopt.

15. What was your favorite Spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

�My trip to Israel was very moving to the point of being spiritual. I believe very
much in the power of prayer

16. What interest did you have ?

When my eyes were better, I did all kinds of crafts - knitting, painting - I like to play
cards, to read, and to travel. My greatest interest is my family - I’m very involved
with family.

17. What are your favorite family memories?
Memories of all the family gatherings are my fondest. We did a lot of fun things
together -1 had a runabout when the children were small and we went to all the
state parks - those are great memories.

18. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values would
you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I would like to be remembered as a loving, honest person - by both family and
friends. The values most important to me are those in the Ten Commandments - to
do unto others as you would have them do unto you

�Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center
Board of Directors
Stephanie Speigel
Executive Director

Marjorie B. Kohn
President
Steven Shapiro
President Elect/Treasurer

Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
Lowell Katz
Robert Riley
Vice Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President

I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Mitchell Charney
jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky

40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
Arthur Grossman
Shelton R.Weber
Honorary Directors
Mark Ament
■ne Bennett
/n Berman
Joan Byer
Howard L Cantor
Natalie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
Simon Fields
Phyllis Florman
Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
Debbie Hyman
Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O’Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
Susan Waterman
Frank Weisberg

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Rabbi Robert Slosberg
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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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Blema Baer
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, I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives
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2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My father came to America first because he had a sister living here. And he sent for
my mother and brother and sister, who came over later.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My mother, Ida Kasap, was bom in Kiev.
My father, Samuel Sandler, was bom in Kiev.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/aunts?
Grandparents?

July 10, 1914. Mostly English. Mom and pop didn’t speak Yiddish very often. 763 S
1st street, I think it’s all commercial right now. Brothers, 3, and 4 sisters, mother and
father.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

Friendly, no Jews lived there. Yes, yes. Yes, there was a grocery right on the comer
right where we lived, a Pigly Wiggly, and the drug store was about three blocks from
where we lived, Davis’s drug store.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

Quite a bit. My father was in Chicago buying clothes for his store, and one of my
brother’s was down at the store, and another brother was down at the river putting up
sand bags. And my sister and I were washing this beautiful punch bowl and listening
to the news and I dropped the punch bowl. Then my sister and I went to the school,
which was about ‘A a block away. And a boat came over to our house to take us out
of there. There were about 500 on the second floor of the school and 500 that lived
on the first floor, and we were there for quite a bit.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

Planes, I’ve been on two cruises they are great but I like trains or planes. Street car.
No.

�8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

No, just as members.
9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

All of them. We had one shlu kappors, it was when we would put money in the
charity boxes and swing chickens. We had Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, and
Passover.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

Yes, went to Hebrew school for a short time. No, no.
11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?

Hs graduate, and took some courses at UofL, observed but didn’t register.
Started out working at Selman’s, then my husband was a football coach, then I had
'YOMZ' two children, then when pay became ill he had dabbled in insurance so I went into
agency and became a business woman.
that for climbrng^pplej^
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

Bom here.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

First I met him when I was in high school, and he would come by at the end of school
and offer me a ride home, but I didn’t date him for a long time after that. Then he
started calling me for dates and that was it. June 21, 1938 at Anches Sphard
synagogue. Two children one son has passed away.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

Volunteering for everything, united Jewish campaign, bond selling for Israel, 7,000
hrs for Jewish hospital. Ever since I was 7 I was volunteering, I used to write letters
to my parent’s friends children. Jewish convalescent children, council, and
community chest, the arts and crafts gallery, my list can go on and on. My family
wasn’t really involved, my brothers were away from here, and they traveled a lot. I
was really the most active in my family.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

�Just like everyone, devastated, my brother served in the service and got
accommodation for his services. My son was over in Vietnam taking pictures, my
sister worked at the hospital as a candy(strippbf, but everyone safely returned home
after the wars. My father, who was a tailor, would fix the soldiers uniforms and
S'
clothes, without charge.
No.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

Just the fact that Judaism has taught me about sharing and caring for others, and to
try to be an example and role model of being good and considerate and thoughtful of other
people. It’s taught me charity and its importance.
17. What interests do you have?

Right now, working at the hospital is one of my greatest interests, I love to go
antiquing, reading, I used to love to drive, but they’ve taken my car away from me,
so I straighten up my house and do all the little chores, I still volunteer at 93yrs old, I
visit the patients, I have a nephew who is a dr. and he calls me to visit his patients.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

My family, my sisters and I were the best of friends, and my brothers were also realy
close to us. My sisters and I would travel together, one of my sisters and I went to
Israel together and my four sisters and I went to Japan together. And we would
celebrate all of the holidays together. I just have the fondest memories with family.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I don’t know. I would like to be remembered as a very caring person. The golden
rule, do unto others as u would like to have done unto u, and I really try to live that, I
think prayers are important. When I was really sick I used to watch touched by an
angel, and I remember when I had my heart surgery and I was there for 7wks. And it
dawned on me that I hadn’t said my prayers, and I remembered how important it was
to talk to g-d. And once I began to say them again I really started feeling better. It’s
important to know that there is someone greater than us that’s looking down on us
and really taking care of us.
JFVS/aj 08/06/07
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�Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center

JFVS is always here throughout
every season of your life.

Board o f Directors
Judy Freundlich Tiell
Executive Director
Barbara Goldberg
President
Debbie Friedman
Jay Klempner
Vice Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

Mark Ament
Treasurer

I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Lowell D. Katz, M.D.
Ex-officio President

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky 40205.

Mitchell Charney
Jane Goldstein
Marjorie B. Kohn
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Gail Pohn
Lillian Seligman
Steven Shapiro
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents

My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by interested people.
It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

D. Cole
.ur Grossman
Shelton R. Weber
Honorary Directors

Participant

Caren Carney
Sally Davis
Ann Friedman
Sandi Friedson
Alyson Goldberg
Rick Greenberg
Ronald Levine
Martin Margulis
Stephanie Mutchnick
Marsha Beck Roth
Hunt Schuster
Brian Segal
Bernard Sweet
Reed Weinberg
Amy Wisotsky
Rabbi
Rabbi
Rabbi
Rabbi
Rabbi
Rabbi
Rabbi
Rabbi

David Ariel-Joel
Avrohom Litvin
Stanley Miles
Joe Rooks Rapport
Gaylia R. Rooks
Nadia Siritsky
Robert Slosberg
Bradley C. Tecktiel

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Date Signed

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Family &amp; Children's
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Metro United Way

3587 Dutchmans Lane • Louisville, Kentucky 40205 ♦ (502) 452-6341 • Fax (502) 452-6718
E-mail: jfvs@jfvs.com • Web: www.jfvs.com

�Blema Baer, 99, died Friday, October 4, 2013 at Deer Park Retirement
Center in Cincinnati. She was a native of Louisville bom July 10,1914.
Blema was retired sales agent for Klein &amp; Appel Insurance Agency (19541992). She wore many hats as a volunteer for 54 years at Jewish Hospital
but her favorite one was visiting the patients on Friday. She was often
called "Mama Baer" and "Girl Friday". She served on Jewish Hospital
Guild, member of The Speed Museum, a life member of Hadassah, serving
on the board, member of NCJW - Louisville Section, member of
Congregation Anshei Sfard and Congregation Anshei Sfard Sisterhood.
She was a volunteer for United Jewish Campaign, Bonds for Israel, Arts &amp;
Crafts gallery and Jewish Home for Convalescent Children. She received
The Julia Victor Volunteer of the Year Award in 1986 and won The Bell
Award in 2010.
Blema's special way with people has also been helpful to Jewish Hospital
Transplant Program. The hospital's social service staff needed someone to
be a committed friend to Kentucky's first heart transplant recipient. Blema
was selected because of her supportive and nurturing nature as well as her
level-headedness in dealing with complicated and unpredictable situations.
She was so effective in her first case that social services requested her
assistance with other patients.
Blema enjoyed antique shopping, square dancing, reading, needlepoint and
her Canasta games. Her home was always open to family, friends and to
Ray's football players, better known as "His" boys.
She is preceded in death by her husband, Raymond Baer; her son Perry
Baer; her parents, Samuel and Ida Kapsah Sandler; her sisters, Cecil
Speevack, Rebecca Judah, Flora Levine and Marian Stem; her brothers, Jack
Sandler, Morris Sandler and Carl Sandler.
She is survived by her devoted son and daughter-in-law, Gordon and
Shirley Baer; sister-in-laws, Emma Sandler and Arlette Baer; and many
devoted, nieces, nephews, great-nieces, great-nephews and friends.
Funeral services will be 2:00 p.m. Sunday, October 6,2013 at Herman
Meyer &amp; Son, 1338 Ellison Avenue with burial to follow in Anshei Sfard
Cemetery. Visitation will be after 1:00 p.m. In lieu of flowers, expressions
of sympathy may go to donor's favorite charity.

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                    <text>QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. I am
Lee Grossman
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with
B-oh-Schuiman
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on _____ September 4, 2001|_

I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives
■

As a preface to the oral history of Bob Schulman, I would like to say that this oral history is
most significant and interesting to the Jewish Community because of the insights it gives to
his intellectual and his religious background and how it relates to the Jewish Community.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this
country and when?
My father came to the United States in 1899. My mother came to this country between 1901
and 1906 with her sisters and her mother Esther. Esther, who was an extraordinary woman,
lived to her eighties and rolled her own cigarettes with Turkish tobacco until she died. She
had a wonderful knowledge of herbs and massage to cure “gut aches and so on.”

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they bom?
My father, Samuel Schulman was bom in Vaslui, Romania in 1874 and, orphaned early was
raised by his very orthodox grandparents. He attended gymnasium or high school in a nearby
city called Jassy. He wanted to be a writer, but he realized at that time in history there was
little chance for a “Jewish kid” in Europe to become a writer. He was proficient in math, so
he went to Darmstadt, Germany to study to become an electrical engineer. After his
graduation from engineering school, he went to Switzerland and obtained a graduate degree.
My mother, Rebecca Yuster was bom in Berlad, a Romanian village that was only about 35
miles from Vaslui, Romania where my father lived. She did not meet my father, however,
until years later in the next century in New York City.
My father did not speak English when he came to the United States, which was typical of
immigrants and, therefore, could not pursue his profession. He hopped a freight train to Salt
Lake City and literally worked in a salt mine. He quickly discovered that there was not a great
future in this endeavor and hopped a freight train back to New York City. In New York, now
being able to speak some English, he found a job as a utility meter reader. The Metropolitan
Life Insurance Company ran an ad in the New York Times looking for an electrical engineer.
The Metropolitan Life was completing its own skyscraper building and needed electrical
engineers to run their electrical department, which was going to produce its own electrical
power. My father was employed by Metropolitan Life and remained in that job for thirty-five
years.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your
home? Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you
- Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
My mother and father were married in 1914. My mother was warned not to try to have
children because she had a weak heart; however, I was bom July 7, 1916. I was the only
child. My father, a voracious reader, brought home seven newspapers each day from work.
He bought the New York Times, but his colleagues, knowing that he liked to read newspapers,
gave him The Daily Mirror, Graphic, The Herald Tribune, the morning and evening World,
and the Bronx Home News, and that is probably how my life “took shape.”

�My mother died of a heart attack when I was only 7 years old. Eventually, my father met
Celia Linetsky, a Russian immigrant from Odessa who became a devoted stepmother to me
through my young life.

My mother had another sister, Marie, who became an international figure. She lived in
Greenwich Village and entertained intellectuals and other characters at her home. David
Ross, a poet and celebrated CBS radio announcer, suggested that she would be wise to go into
business, so she opened a bistro in Greenwich Village and called it “Romany Marie Tavern.”
Marie and her mother both said that she was involved with gypsies while in Romania, but her
detractors asked how could a Jewish woman parade as a gypsy. However, she “fed psyches
and bellies” of people who later became distinguished and nationally known in acting, theater,
dance and political science. One of them was Buckminster “Bucky” Fuller, who was down on
his luck, but years later said, “my creativity was bom in the world of Romany Marie.” He
became globally known as the “Da Vinci of the 20th Century.”

—&gt;
/

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in
the neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday Schoo!? Temple?
Was there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

My family lived in the Bronx in a house across from Crotona Park. We moved several times
while living in the Bronx. It was a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, but nearby, across
from the Grand Concourse, was a predominantly Italian neighborhood. Once or twice a year
there would be serious rock fights; It was the Jews versus the Italians. I went to P. S. (public
school) 44. I remember, at this time, I was very shy, probably because of the death of my
mother at my very young age. I remember one day that a neighbor woman talked to me on the
street and she said, “Oh you poor, poor kid,” and that incident changed me from being so shy
and quiet, to speak out in order to survive. I remember one summer the Miller twins up the
street were going to a camp and I wondered why I couldn’t go to camp. So my parents
decided to send me to a labor camp, Nitgadyvit, which was terrible and I was frightened. I
was by myself in back of the kitchen. Therefore, my parents took me out of the camp and sent
me to a Y.M.H. A. camp where the Miller twins were, and I had a great summer. I was
confronted with the fact that I had to say a prayer before eating, so to fit in the group, I learned
to say a prayer in Hebrew before eating.
In answer to the question, were there any grocery or drug stores in the neighborhood; yes,
around the comer on Clinton Avenue there were little grocery stores and drug stores owned by
Jews, Italians, and Irish.

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel when you were young? If so, where?
I remember that in the summer, we would spend time at the Rockaway’s on the beach on Long
Island. I would also be taken by train or bus to upstate New York to the lakes, and took one
unforgettable trip to Chicago to the World’s Fair in 1933. Every Thanksgiving my father,
stepmother and I would take the subway to Flatbush and would be met by my uncle and his
family in my uncle’s car: my how impressive, and he would even drive in the rain!

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
My mother was part of a family that became quickly involved in intellectual and radical
circles of Manhattan including Emma Goldman, an anarchist. Her sister Rose divorced her
first husband to marry Leonard Dalton Abbott, a leading force, in part because of his money

�and intellect. My family were free thinkers because in various ways they had been persecuted.
They were against wars, they fought against the First World War, and they were against all
organized religion because they felt that its misuse had produced more hatred and bloodshed
in the world. This group included my mother, her sisters, my uncle Leonard Abbott, and my
father.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
The family did not go out on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur and on rare occasions they
would go to services with friends. At Hanukah and Christmas time I would get dreidels but
also we had a rubber plant in the comer of the living room and my mother and father would
decorate it with trinkets, and that would be their Christmas tree.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar
Mitzvah?
I never had a Bar Mitzvah or attended a Sunday school, or belonged to a shul or temple
because of the intellectual position of the family.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
My elementary schooling consisted of P.S. 44. I skipped a couple of grades and went to
Junior High School and then to a high school in the Bronx, Evander Childs. I then went to the
New York University Bronx campus (which is no longer in existence). At the University, I
was managing editor of the school paper, and I acted in and wrote little plays for the campus
theater. In the first two years I was in an accelerated pre-med. course; however, in my junior
year I changed to journalism because I was so infatuated with the work I was doing on the
weekly student newspaper. I graduated in 1936 from New York University with a BS degree
in English and Political Science. I was then accepted for the Master Program at the Columbia
Graduate School of Journalism, Columbia University, and I received my graduate degree in
Journalism in 1937. The school had an extraordinary faculty and a remarkable student body.
There were 60 students in the class and only 5 were Jewish. At one time during the year, a
great editor of the paper in Richmond, Virginia, also a teacher at Columbia, and a Baptist
Minister, spoke to the class at Columbia and said, “brothers and sisters, I want to call your
attention to these people (and he named the five Jewish students); because they are Jewish,
they will have to work twice as hard as you to get to the same place.”
After graduation, I applied for a job at several newspapers and was accepted at the Pulitzer
newspaper in St. Louis, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. I worked in St. Louis at the newspaper
and also wrote for radio programs from 1937 to 1942, and then I was drafted into the Army.
Before I was drafted, I was approached on the street by Senator Harry Truman’s campaign
manager. He told me that I shouldn’t be drafted. “If you let me call Harry, he will get you a
commission and you will be in Washington, that is where you belong.” I did not think that
was the right thing to do so I turned down the offer. After basic training in frigid northern
Illinois, I was stationed in California, and I was transferred from the army to the air corps
because the base newspaper in Fresno, California wanted me. I applied for CCS and was
commissioned a second lieutenant and became an information and education officer, serving
two years in Labrador, later in the Caribbean. As the war was ending, The Reader’s Digest
had a contest for an essay on what would be the biggest problem in the country would face
after the war was over. I wrote an essay supposing that the greatest challenge would be the
relationships between black and white. The essay won me the top prize of $2,500, but they
never published the essay, as they said they would.

�After I was discharged from the army, I returned to St. Louis to the Star-Times, and I found
that the paper had a new managing editor from Indianapolis by the name of Norman Isaacs,
that being of note because Norman Isaacs was the reason I came to Louisville 20 years later. I
told Mr. Isaacs, “I have been around the world and seen a lot and thought a lot and I would
like to do “Think Pieces” otherwise known as Thumb Suckers.” Norman Isaacs sucked on his
pipe and rocked, in his chair for a couple of minutes and said, “very interesting Schulman, very
interesting, but^not^oryou better get your ass over to City Hall.” Later we became good

friends. I became a feature writer and columnist and did some work in Hollywood. Then
when the paper was “killed”, bought out by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, I was the only one on
the new staff with a job because I was doing some part-time correspondence for Time
magazine, which printed my story on the death of the newspaper and then hired me. This
happened in 1951 at which time I moved to Chicago to work for Time as staff correspondent.
Early in this time period when I was in Chicago (1951 - 1953), I was doing a business story
for Time magazine and wrote about Mandel’s Department Store. I was interviewing Mr.
Mandel, who asked me my last name. I told him Schulman. Mr. Mandel said, “Schulman?
You are Jewish, and you work for Time magazine?” At that time it was so rare that Time
would hire a Jew because until that year virtually all of the people hired by Time came from
Yale and were not Jewish.
In 1953 I moved to Seattle and became regional news bureau chief for Time/Life and all the
other magazines owned by Time for the Pacific Northwest which included Washington,
Oregon, Idaho, western Montana, and Alaska. I worked there until 1959. I had many
interesting cover stories including one on the world’s first commercial jet transport
manufactured by Boeing. I was on the first flight of the prototype jet airplane that went from
Seattle to Baltimore. Others on the flights included William Randolph Hearst and CBS
newsman Doug Edwards.

In 1959 I left Time, Inc. to go with King Broadcasting Company in Seattle, with three
television stations in the area, to do a series of television documentaries and on-air editorials.
All of the documentaries were aired in evening prime time. The first one was about the
commercial port of the City of Seattle, which was floundering. The 90-minute documentary
called “Lost Cargo” led to the passage of a 10 million dollar bond issue, and Seattle became
the number one maritime port on the entire Pacific coast. Earlier, while working at Time
bureau for Sports Illustrated, I produced an expose of alumni “monkey shines” at the
University of Washington athletic program that resulted not only in its total transformation,
but the reorganization of the entire Pacific Coast collegiate conference. Later I worked with
the Washington State governor to establish and lead a “design for Washington” environmental
program.

12. What brought you to Louisviile and when did you come?
In 1968, while on a trip from New York to Seattle, I was asked to stop in Louisville by two
old friends and colleagues; Norman Isaac, who was now Executive Editor of the Bingham
newspapers, and Geoffrey Vincent, who was Sunday Editor of the papers. They asked me if I
would come to Louisville to be a writer for the Sunday Magazine. The Bingham reputation
and the presence of these two old friends convinced me that I should join them. I did enjoy
some rather gratifying success in writing, including the first (and for 16 years the only) story
about Al Schneider. I was lured to the other end of the Bingham block, which was WHAS
radio, and television where I was given the privilege to do a one-person commentary every
night on the evening news for the next four years (1970-1974), with total freedom to talk
about anything I wanted. In 1972 during that period, I did a television editorial commentary

�on strip mining that was voted the best television editorial in the country by Sigma Delta Chi,
the journalism fraternity. In 1974,1 was asked by the Bingham’s and the President of the
company to come back to the newspapers to write a media-monitoring column, which I called
“In All Fairness.” I did that for 7 years (1974-1981), twice a week for the afternoon Louisville
Times and once a month for the Sunday Courier-Journal. I had total scope to talk about the
entire press, print and broadcast, including local and national newspapers and magazines. It
was an extraordinary opportunity, which at that time could only have existed with the
Bingham’s.

In 1981,1 took “early retirement”, the first of my retirements, then was called to New York to
be the managing editor of a new program on National Public Television dealing with the
press, called “Inside Story”, with well-known newspaper editor Hodding Carter, III who had
been the State Department spokesman for the Jimmy Carter administration.
I then went back for a couple of years to WHAS TV, and in 1984 joined the University of
Louisville. I was (and still am) on the staff of the Dean of Arts and Sciences. I taught a senior
course and ran a seminar for about 5 years. During that period and since then, I have
conducted programs of forums and seminars for community groups. Currently, the most
important of those, with the state Office of the Courts, are forums to bring together judges and
news people to hash out their differences and how they perform in the public interest.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
married? Did you have children?
My first wife, Eleanor, was a would-be professional singer from Alton, Illinois, and we were
married in 1943. We had one child, Rebecca, who was bom in 1946. The marriage lasted
until 1974 and she now lives near Seattle where Rebecca also lives. Rebecca is a lawyer
working as the assistant director of the property management office of the University of
Washington. She and her husband Stephen McIntyre, a teacher, have two sons. Their first
son, Ian, married a girl from Texas and they have two children making me a great grandfather.
Ian is a pilot for Delta Airlines and lives with his wife Jennifer and their children in Dallas,
Texas. A second grandson, Sean, is a PH.D. candidate in Germanic Culture at Stanford
University, now pursuing the final stages of his dissertation while living in Rio do Janeiro. I
say, “that’s the life.”
In 1976 I married Louise Tachau, who is considerably younger than me and is a surrogate
Great Grandmother.

14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your
whole family involved?
As a commentator and a newsman, hopefully, I have been frequently helpful to Jewish
interests. I regularly support the Jewish Community Federation, and Louise is a supporter of
The National Council of Jewish Women. Four or five years ago, we made our one and only
visit to Israel with an American Jewish Committee tour. We are supporters of the American
Jewish Committee, as well as the World Jewish Congress.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
This question was not answered.

�16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect
your life?
“1 grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and was touched by many of the elements of progressive
political thought that often emanated from Jewish thinkers. As near as I can perceive it, and
comfortable with my detachment from shul and temple, I feel very deeply the cultural, the
spiritual, the group virtues, and special strengths and contributions of all of us who are Jews
whether we practice religiously or not. In my childhood, from time to time, I ran into antiSemitic attitudes and these strengthened that feeling. You know that you are Jewish no
matter what you practice, and you are better off if you appreciate all of the special
characteristics that come with being Jewish.^^-^

17. What interests do you have?
My interests are current events, news, and opinion, and efforts to bring different viewpoints to
some kind of healthy compromise position. I read the Courier-Journal and New York Times
every day. I read magazines and as many books as I can. I enjoy observing and interpreting
local, state and national politics. I used to enjoy tennis and swimming, but spend more time
now in rehab exercise because I am a devout believer in “if you don’t use it, you lose it.”

18. What are your favorite family memories?
This question was not answered.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
My legacy is my concern for community, involvement in government, alleviation of social
ills, importance of a healthy curiosity, an open mind, “but noTso open that everything falls out”
as someone once said. Above all, I want to be remembered as somebody who cared and
someone who had a good mindset.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. lam
Robert Friedman /, I am conducting an interview
with
Boris Pressman y
for the JFVS archives
on_________November 3, 2002____________ .

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2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

In 1914 my mother, Esther Schlossberg, and father, Conrad Pressman, graduated
from Gymnasia, which is a prestigious university for chemical engineers. It was
requested by the Tzar that they come to this country to make soap. That was his
father’s and brother’s business. They are graduated from Gymnasia. They came from
St. Petersburg, Russia to Chicago, Illinois. When my father came, he brought my
sister, Bessie, who was 3 or 4 months old. Shortly thereafter he brought my mother’s
mother and father to Chicago. My grandfather had a news stand on the comer of
Roosevelt Road. My mother and grandmother were housewives. When the revolution
broke out in Russia, my father decided it was time to move someplace else. He
moved (mother) to Mt. Hara, Wisconsin. My mother brought her 2 brothers. One
uncle went to Vienna to study voice, and the other uncle went to Vienna to study
dentistry. When we moved to Mt. Hara, my uncle, Isadare, was a coutor at a causers
atene congregation in Madison. The other uncle went to Aladonea where he met his
wife. They operated a Jewish hardware business. When I moved to Mt. Hara, we
lived in 1 building where my mother’s sister, Aunt Fannie Jacobson, lived upstairs,
and we lived downstairs.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My father, Conrad Pressman (Prezma), was bom in St. Petersburg and died in
Louisville in 1941. My mother, Esther Schlossberg, was bom in Riga, Latvia, which
is close to Germany. When she came to the U.S. the only books she was familiar with
were in German. Many years later when we moved to Louisville, we received
Anzieger, a Jewish German newspaper. Our prayer books were in German. When my
parents moved to Wisconsin, my father was trying to figure out what he should do.
He was very mechanical and looked for old telephones. He discovered that all phones
had a piece of metal which was in them. He collected this metal in ajar. He would
take the jar of metal to Chicago, where it was sold. In a bus station someone was
following him, and they stole the jar of metal. His next career was in the dairy
business. My mother had an aunt known as Tata Gella, and was married to Mr.
Fineberg, who was in the dairy business in Louisville.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?

I was bom November 3, 1918. Yiddish and English were spoken in my house. My
father could read and write in English when he came to the U.S. My maternal

�grandfather, Michael Schlossberg, and his wife moved to Louisville with us. I was 3
months old at the time.
I lived on Preston and Liberty, better known as Preston and Fehr. We lived upstairs
from Mard’s business.
My sister, Bess Pressman Likely Allentuch, my mother, father, and I lived in the
same house.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

I lived in a mixed neighborhood, there were Italians, Syrians, blacks, and whites. We
all lived and played together on Marshall Ave. We wall got along before integration.
The black school on that street had a lot of Jews.
I walked to school until I went to Thomas Jefferson Junior High School on Walnut
and Jacobs in the 6th grade, where Samuel Noe was the principal. He later became
Jefferson County superintendent. I went to high school. I wanted to take Latin, so we
went directly to Louisville Male High School. I went to Sunday school at Kenneseth
Israel and sent to Synagogue there. I walked to the drugstore on Preston and Walnut.
The grocery store, Knappers, when I went, was known as Simans and a pickly was
$.02 and a cracker was $.03. At Hebrew school, the Michvah was located at the
lower end of school.

6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

Charles Weisberg and I operated the railway express and emptied Steiden Store
(groceries) to pontoon bridge created by empty whiskey barrels. We took it up to the
Highlands. I was a wonderful experience, and a great pleasure.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

When my father was in the dairy business, we had a Dodge car and traveled to
Chicago to visit relatives. We’d go to Jacobs Park (Iroquois Park) and Shawnee Park.
We went to West Baden, Indiana and Chicago several times.
My mother had an uncle, and while he was in Chicago, he met someone from
California, and they were married. My uncle, Morris, always knew a lot about
inventing. This uncle engineered a self starter on automobiles, it was stolen from
him.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

My family was very involved. Kesesseth Israel was formed. I just learned the word
Tzedakah. I put $.25 in memory of my maternal grandmother. To pay for it I
delivered news papers. My parents were very generous with money. Kenneseth was
located on Floyd and Jefferson.

�9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

All of them.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

Talmud Torah is where I had my bar mitzvah. 4 of us had their bar mitzvah that
month.
11. What is your educational background? What was your career?

I graduated high school, and years later took part-time courses at UofL.
My career started when I married Miriam, who studied traffic. During the time I was
getting married and was called to the army; I was drafted. When I came back, I got
married to Miriam. Her father was in the barrel business. I received income from the
barrel company. As it grew we were very involved, and merged with a similar
business, Maslauer Company, our Ohio River cooperage. We became public and I
was responsible for all the real estate at once all over the world. Maslow’s brother
was a genius, and we created an international coop ridge company that went public.
When I was discharged (only for 7 months 6-44), there were only two Jewish boys in
my platoon. My best friends were Irish and Greek, and we prayed together everyday.
These two asked about it, the others were ashamed of rituals. I was discharged in ’44
with an honorable discharge. I got 10% disability for 7 or 8 years and paid for my
insurance.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I came to Louisville when I was 3 months old. When I went to get social security,
you had to bring records of earnings, and a man asked me if he could pick my brain.
He gave me a quarter for the meter so we could talk. He told me he owned real estate
out on Mt. Herly Ave. I bought property and sold it there, Bass and Weisberg.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I met Miriam when she lived on 1st and Hull. Her father was state representative. Her
uncle had a drug store in the front and Honorable Carl Sayer lived in the back.
Miriam was a traveling girl, and I was a life guard at the lower level of Talmud
Torah. We were married by Rabbi Gittleman in the Kentucky Hotel. My father was
very ill when we were married, but we were married in spite of that on January 18,
1942. We had three children. Conrad Jay Pressman was bom February 17, 1944.
Diane Pressman Gordon was bon June 8, 1948. Stuart Pressman was bom May 31,
1951 and died May 21, 1995.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

�My scout master was Arthur Kling and he mentored me to get involved in the Jewish
community. We were building the JCC here in Louisville, the president was Sid
Rosenbloom. Then, because of my involvement with Arthur Kling, I was very active
in YMHA theatre. I wanted the JCC to have a slanted floor and we were not
successful. I built the JCC and was very much involved. When Joe Kaplan was
president, he got me to become vice president. I was JAS President, involved with
the UJC, and I was supposed to be the Federation president, but I was traveling too
much and couldn’t take the position. I would work with the JCC when I came in on
weekends, and I was president in 1961.Stuart was the Federation president when he
died. Dianne and CJ were always active.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

I served 7 months in 1944 in the army. I specialized in training as a decoder. This
was a result of my boy scout days doing Morse Code. I advanced to press speed. I
went to Ft. Benning Geogad in radio platoon. There was an unexpected overseas
duty, and I was sent to the Hospital and discharged.
Non family was in the Israeli wars, only close friends were involved. Renn Shcnsun
is still there; she and her husband are very active.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

No. I believe in hereafter. I will meet Stuart with Miriam.
17. What interests do you have?

Harry Cohen, the photographer, built the first dark room at the YMHA. We did a lot
of work. My son was involved and went to Antioch. His pictures are on the cover of
Life Magazine. He started photography school at Antioch Diane’s garden oldest boy
interested in journalistic photography. He built a darkroom downstairs.
Business
Miriam’s artwork
18. What are your favorite family memories?

When the family gets together. Diane will have my 83rd birthday and Cathy. We hace
a lovely relationship with them, but my grandson knows his real daddy, Stuart. We
all go to his grave together.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

Tzedakah. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
Can’t say! Charlie Weisberg my best friend is always there. His first wife and
Miriam are best friends. I have wonderful grandchildren and sons.

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Board of Directors

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Executive Director

Marjorie B. Kohn
President
Steven Shapiro
President Elect/Treasurer

Barbara Goldberg
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Vice Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President
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Jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
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Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents

Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
Arthur Grossman
Shelton R.Weber
Honorary Directors

I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky
40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

Mark Ament
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Natalie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
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Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
Debbie Hyman
Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O'Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
Susan Waterman
Frank Weisberg
Rabbi Avrohom Litvin
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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
We are Maxine Switow and Anita Weber, conducting an interview with:

Carol Behr

for the JFCS archives on December 23, 2011.
1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My paternal grandparents were from Vienna, Austria, from a much assimilated family. My paternal
grandmother came to New York with her father who wanted to take her away from an unsuitable
suitor. In the early 1920s she met a man. They worked in a restaurant after they married. He died
very early. She later moved to Louisville with my mother and father. My maternal grandparents
came from St. Petersburg where my grandmother’s father was an overseer for a large estate. They
left St. Petersburg before the Revolution where they barely escaped the Cossacks. My maternal
grandmother became a well-known dress designer (“Madame Reed”) in New York City. She and my
grandfather lived at 59th and Madison for many years. Both of my parents, Shirley (Sophie Resnikoff)
and Julien Greenfield, were born in New York City. My father’s mother, Rosalie Greenfield, lived with
my parents, my sister and me from 1937 until her death in 1955.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My dad, Julian Greenfield, came to Louisville for a job in women’s wear. He opened the Joy Shop.
They didn’t know a soul. My mom, Sophie, changed her name to Shirley and her Russian maiden
name was Resnikoff which she didn’t change. Both parents were born in New York City.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
I was born 2/12/1933. English was spoken at home, never Yiddish. I was born in Bridgeport,
Connecticut. My family moved to Louisville by train and car when I was two. My paternal
grandmother lived with us.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/Aunts?

�My parents lived in a rented house when they first came to Louisville, where soon after all their
belongings were gone due to a fire. My sister was five years older. We moved to the Highlands on
Spring Drive, Woodbourne and Lauderdale. We lived in the first “all-electric” house in the Highlands
on Lauderdale. There were many other Jews who lived on Lauderdale. I walked to Highland Jr.
High, took a bus to Atherton. My grandmother lived with us. Both my parents worked downtown on
4th Street. My family and I attended Adath Israel (3rd Street Temple). There were a few stores at
Douglass—Heitzman’s Bakery and a produce store, an A&amp;P, some drug stores—near my home.
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
A job was the reason for the move. We came by car and train. As soon as we came, there was a
major flood and our belongings were lost in a fire.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
See Question 4.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
Since we lived in the Highlands, we did not have to move out during the flood. In fact, other people
moved into the garage of the Spring Drive Apts, where we lived during the flood.
8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?
We always had a car, but we often used a bus for transportation in Louisville. My dad took me out of
town to Lake Wawasee in the car, because I had hay fever and I was uncomfortable, and it was very
hot in Louisville!

9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
I was involved with the Temple, and Dr. Rauch was the Rabbi. We were not very observant and did
not keep Kosher.

�10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
My family observed Passover and Chanukah.
11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
I was confirmed, and attended Sunday school. I enjoyed Sunday school, and am still in touch with
friends from Adath Israel. Rabbi Rauch was my earliest rabbi; later Rabbi Herbert Waller was rabbi. I
did not have a Bat mitzvah; it was not done at Adath Israel.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
I attended Indiana University for two years. Twenty years later I went to University of Louisville to get
a business degree, but never graduated. I did a great deal of volunteer work in many organizations
which influenced my life and enabled me in my future job opportunities. I ran a mini warehouse;
worked for Jefferson County-City of Louisville for 20 years; did event planning and directed
departments for the city and county.
13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
I met my ex-husband, Max Behr, at the YMHA. We came from diverse backgrounds; I was Reform
and Max was Orthodox. We married in 1952 and have two children, a daughter, Rhonda, and a son,
Mark, and five grandchildren. We divorced in 1988.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
Later, I was VERY involved in the Jewish community, Young Judea, YMHA, girls’ clubs, Hen Hussies,
and Sigma Theta Pi.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
I worked for Mayor Harvey Sloane and the City of Louisville and Jefferson County for 20 years, ran a
mini warehouse, sold diamond dental bits, worked for a microfilm company, etc. There was a great

�deal of anti-Semitism, but I ignored it. I would hear the worst remarks about Jews. Many times I
would try to educate those people. Mostly, I ignored it.
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
My brother-in-law served in the Navy. My earliest recollections regarding the war were sitting by the
radio and listening to the news with my family, and later about the Israeli wars.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Everything in life affects you spiritually, and that religion affects everyday life if you love your religion.
I am very proud to be Jewish, and my life reflects that feeling.

18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
My favorite hobby was dancing. I belonged to a dance group, and we were “therapists” for each
other. It was a modern dance group developed at the YMHA and the Jewish Community Center.
Also, when Max and I lived in Germany while he was in the service, I taught dancing in Germany. I
felt that I was “my mother’s daughter.” She was also a “doer” and a productive person who owned a
store at 4th and Market. I was very involved in Hadassah, as was my mother.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
My favorite spiritual memories are the births of my children and grandchildren, their mitzvahs, and
watching and engaging in their lives.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
My legacy? Being home and having family dinners, being a great mom and grandmother with my
family and grandchildren; hoping I contributed something in my lifetime through examples of
community service and family devotion.

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, I am conducting an interview with:

Caroline

for the JFCS archives in September 2011 .

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My parents, Belle Stern and Isadore Maurice Kimmelfield, were born in Kupel, a village near Odessa,
Ukraine. One of Belle’s sisters ran away and Belle went after her, traveling all over Europe for two
years. The sister ended up in New York, and Belle found her there in 1917. She stayed with her
sister for awhile and then went to New Bedford, Conn, to teach Hebrew. She spoke four languages.
Isadore was a Talmudic scholar, a Zionist, and a Socialist. (Jews were slowly being assimilated into
Russian society but few Jews were allowed in schools.) Isadore left Kupel in 1914 to escape the
draft, went to Cleveland and then to New York. He met Belle at a landsman society. She was being
courted by Velvel Chomsky who became president of Dropsie College and was the father of Noam
Chomsky, but she chose Isadore instead. Isadore was a foreman with Western Union but he went on
strike with his workers and was boycotted for two years. Then he worked for All America Cable and
stayed there for the rest of his life. Belle went to adult education classes and took English to get a
job, but her husband wouldn’t let her work. Everyone spoke English in their home, no Yiddish,
because Belle wanted her kids to be Americanized.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
I was born in 1930 in Brooklyn, N.Y. I had one older brother, Arthur. I lived in Brooklyn until I went to
college. No other Jewish families lived near us.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/Aunts?
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
I met Paul Tenen at Brooklyn College and after several years of dating, we married in 1952 after I
graduated from Columbia Law School. Three years later Paul was killed in an auto accident. Five
years later I met Donald Balleisen, and we married in 1959. Donald graduated from Princeton and
Harvard Law School. He worked for Penicken Ford which was sold to Reynolds Tobacco Co., and
we did not want to move to Winston Salem. I knew about Louisville—its orchestra, the Courier
Journal and Harry Carmichael who desegregated schools before there was a law—so we decided to
move to Louisville. I had mainly preferred mixed gender groups, but I was invited to a meeting of
NCJW, and I was so impressed by them that I joined the group.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?

�I lived in Louisville on Runnymede since 1969. The houses were just being built then, and many
Jews lived there. Donald and I were associated with The Temple (which was downtown) and we
shopped at Holiday Manor. We were not here for the flood but were here for the tornado which went
ip 1-71 but missed our subdivision. We put the kids in the basement, but Donald was upstairs talking
on the phone to N.Y. and I kept calling him to come down to the basement.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?
THIS GOES BACK TO THE TIME IN BROOKLYN. My family used the subway and buses. Even
when we went to the country, Northbranch in the Catskills, we took a bus for five hours. We and
another family rented rooms in a farmhouse there. We played Monopoly, hiked, picked berries, etc.
It was there that I had my first incident of anti-Semitism when a child called me a dirty Jew. At home I
lived close to Coney Island.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
BROOKLYN: My family was not much involved with religion. We went to synagogue on the high
holidays and celebrated Thanksgiving but not Christmas. Once when I was 6 or 7 my father tried to
’et me sit with him in the Synagogue, but I was sent to sit upstairs with my mother.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday School with you?
BROOKLYN: I went to Sunday School at the Jewish Community House of Bensonhurst, which was
like the JCC. I was not confirmed, but learned Bible stories, sang, took ballet and drama. I am not
now in touch with anyone there; but one friend, Iris Kline Owens, persuaded me to apply to Barnard.
I would have liked to be in touch with her, but she died. Iris wrote novels. Other well-known people
who attended the Community House were Rhoda Karpatkin who was a CEO of Consumer Union and
Maurice Sendak.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
I attended Brooklyn College, Barnard, and Columbia. My first job, in high school, was selling linens at
Loessers Dept, store in Brooklyn. When I graduated from law school there were few if any jobs for
Jewish women, so the Dean of the law school hired me to work on a project to develop an income tax
code. The people on that committee were famous and interesting. They met at the Bar Association
and usually had lunch at the Harvard Club, but since it did not let in women when they were with me
they went across the street to the Algonquin. The office looked at the Colgate clock, same as in
Louisville. The firm had two Jewish partners, one of whom hired me. I was always interested in

�public policy which led me to become an attorney. I had thought I would go into politics, but didn’t
have the confidence. Instead, I decided to open my own practice, and worked for the same professor
who had hired me, doing research at the Columbia library. There I met Myra Schumann who was
ioing the same kind of work. I told Myra I wanted to meet a man who wanted to marry, not just have
sex. Myra talked to her husband who was a friend of Donald Balleisen and set up a date for him with
me. Donald was tall, wore a hat, and took me to dinner at the Plaza, then to the movie (The Last
Angry Man), on to a jazz club, and then to a walk by the river. This was January 17, 1959. On
Valentine’s Day he gave me a lovely heart pin, and we married on April 8, 1959, a small wedding at
the Sheraton Netherlands. We had three children: Ellen, born January 9, 1960; Wendy, born October
13, 1963; and Edward, born July 3, 1965. I have three grandchildren; Cassandra Marie Finger who
graduated from Smith three years ago; Zach who is 15 and Aaron, 13, who live with Edward in
Durham, SC where he is a professor at Duke. Daughter Ellen lives in New York and teaches ESL at
CUNY and does pension consulting for the teachers’ union.
While I was raising my children in Louisville, I was on many boards. When my husband left
Greenbaum, I became his associate lawyer, and 'then we became partners with Tilford, Dobbins,
Alexanders, Buckaway, and Black. I specialized in estate tax, tax planning, and was a courtappointed lawyer for children’s abuse cases.
13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
In my neighborhood in Brooklyn was an Italian Catholic girl who became my close friend. We would
walk to the Bay wearing shorts and the soldiers in trucks would whistle at us. However, once a man
exposed himself and that was the end of the walks. I experienced no anti-Semitism in Louisville.
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
I had one aunt who immigrated to Israel in the 1950s. My Mother’s oldest brother, who had four kids,
was in the Red Army and they ended up in a displaced persons’ camp. Bella, who was a poll
watcher, finally got them into the U.S. Her brother became a professor at Dropsie College, but was
angry with his sister for not getting him a position in New York. My brother enlisted in the army at 17
(1943) and wanted to go into the Specialized Training program. Later he was sent to Penn State on
the Gl Bill and became an attorney.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I have no spiritual memories. I just liked being Jewish.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
When I was young I liked Frank Sinatra, drawing, my cat, folk dancing (as a teenager), politics and
playing the piano. I took lessons for eight years at the 3rd Street Music Settlement where lessons

�plus music theory were $1.25. Now I am involved in writing my memoirs, politics, the Citizens
Housing Counsel, the Citizens Union, and the American Jewish Committee.
19. What

are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?

My best memories are of having my whole family here for my birthday. I wish I had been more
involved with them, but they are all far apart geographically.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
I would like to be remembered as a person who really cared about Tikkun 01am. I want my children
and grandchildren to do their own thing and be happy. I am very proud of all of them.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
1. I am
with

Judy Levy,/am conducting an interview
Charles “Pinky” Weisberg \J
for the JFVS archives.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

Father’s older brother, Joe, came to this country first. He knew some fellow countrymen
from the same town now living in Louisville. Prior to coming here, my father was induced
in the Queen’s Private Calgary Army, in Russia. He and a buddy deserted, were captured
and jumped off a boxcar and made there way to the United States.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

Sam and Mildred Weisberg. Mother was bom in Louisville. Father was bom outside
Odessa.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?

My birth date is May 9, 1919. We spoke English and Yiddish at home. We lived at the
comer of Campbell and Jefferson Streets. The house had an outside toilet. It was just my
sister, who was killed by a drunk driver at age three, my parents and myself.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

Mostly Gentile and Italian. My best friends were the Grisantis. I walked to Eastern Jr. High
and Anshei Sfard. We owned the neighborhood grocery store. There was one other Jewish
business in the neighborhood, Mr. Baer had a dry goods store.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

Floodwater came through the front door of the grocery store. Dad was in the hospital with a
broken back. He told me to give all the groceries to our credit customers.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

We had a car and in the summer we would go to Shawnee Park to cool off after a long day
at the store.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue I temple?

Yes, Anshei Sfard.

�9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

We observed all the holidays. Yom Kippur was the most important. My grandfather spent
the night with us and we would walk to schull. He would break the fast with a piece of
bread and schnapps.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

Yes, Talmud Torah. I was confirmed and Bar Mitzvah.
11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?

I finished high school. I had a career in Real Estate and Antiques.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I was bom in Louisville.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

My first wife and I were childhood sweethearts. We married in 1941. My second wife,
Marlene, won a national contest sponsored by the “Ladies Home Journal”. There were 3300
contestants and Marlene was a finalist. I saw this in the newspaper. She won $5000.00 and
was on some talk show sponsored by Oil of Olay “You look great for your age”. I called
Naomi Pressma and she suggested that I call Marlene. I called her for a lunch date. She
couldn’t go because she worked. I called her sister, Dale Hyman, whom my first wife knew,
because she was her advisor Amities. The rest is history. I have three sons. Frank, Ron and
Alan. Marlene has two sons. Keith Trau and Eric Gould.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community. Was you whole family
involved?

I have been an advisor to Resnick AZA for fifteen years. I was the President of Jewish
Community Center in 1975. I grew up at the Jewish Community Center. I always belonged
to Anshei Sfard and Adath Jeshurun. I was the co-founder of Humana. I served on
numerous boards in Louisville, including the University of Louisville, Bellermine College,
and the Cathedral Heritage Foundation. I was the chairman of the Campaign and a charter
member of the Foundation for Planned Giving. I have participated on many committees.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

I was in the war, the second Jewish boy to be drafted in 1941. I was in the Moroccan
Algerian Campaign on November 8, 1942. D-day in North Africa. I was wounded there
and received a Purple Heart. D-day in Sicily. D-day plus two in Italy. Frankie was bom
while I was overseas. He was three years old when I first saw him. I have been to Israel
about seven times. I went to a prime minister’s mission. I had lunch with Aba Eban.

�I had cocktails with Moshe Dayan. I had dinner at the Keneseth with Golda Mier. I was
one of the few boys who put on teffilin in my foxhole. I lost them in the war.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

The most unusual spiritual experience was in Rome. We were there when the Pope was
blessing new cardinals. After the service we rushed to see his audience in Saint Peter’s
Square. When he appeared I got chills to be the presence of someone who is the spiritual
leader of so many. Religion has shaped my life.
17. What interests did you have?

Music, art and antiques. I am going to take more music lessons and play with the Doc’s
Band. One of my hobbies is impersonating Ray Miller, a character I created to entertain
everyone.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

Fishing all over with my boys and cruising.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I would like to be remembered as a person who never forgot where I came from. I always
go by my dad’s grocery store once a month to remind myself. I would like to leave behind a
feeling of family closeness, charity for all and closeness to friends.
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                    <text>My Name is Clara Rowe

And this is My Story
I was bom in 1928 to Phillip and Mary Wasserman in Louisville, Kentucky. My father had
immigrated to United States when he was younger from the Bessarabia region in Eastern Europe.
At that time Bessarabia was under control of the Soviet Union and later Russia. Today the region
is split between the Ukraine and Moldova. My mother was bom and raised in Philadelphia
meeting my father only after he immigrated to the states. I had an older sister Frances who was
bom in 1918, she later married Mayer Shakun and had two children. She passed away in 2010.
We were members of Agudath Achim, an orthodox shul located on 12th and Jefferson. It was the
farthest shul on the west end. Most of the other shuls were farther east. We celebrated our
holidays at home, we went to morning services and then the whole family would get together at
my parents’ home.

We lived in the west end of Louisville growing up, 1300 West Walnut Street to be exact. My
parents owned Wasserman’s Grocery and we lived in a small apartment above the store. We
didn’t go outside to play much growing up. I spent most of my time at the library and when I was
not there I was learning household essentials, like sewing, from my mother. I was also taught at
an early age to help in the store and how to work. I was given odd jobs like clean the back room,
stock shelves, and run a register. When we weren’t working, learning, or at the library we had to
make up our own entertainment whether it was playing will dolls or listening to the radio.
I started education at George D. Prentice Elementary School which housed classes from
kindergarten to sixth grade. At that time, you could start school by semester depending on your
birthday. I was able to start school in January but by the end of the first semester my first-grade
year the government decided to do away with the starting semester system. Instead of forcing me
to repeat half of a year of first-grade the school decided to bump me to second-grade. As a result,
I was much younger than my classmates, but I was happy not to have to repeat first-grade again.
We were taught that what the teachers said was law. You didn’t have parents going to the schools
to tell teachers what they should be doing.
The Flood of 1937 hit while I was in elementary school. I remember the sheer devastation that
hit the west end. It was hit the hardest by far, the Highlands which began at Bardstown road was
saved because it was elevated enough to escape the flood waters and a lot of families fled there.
Schools and churches that were spared took a lot of these families in. Our grocery store and
apartment were saved. Aside from the two or three block radii around us there was nothing but
flooding. We were like a little island in the west end. My parents decided to take in a family
whose house had been completely flooded, in fact my parents insisted they stay with us. I can’t
remember how long they were there; it was maybe one or two weeks. My parents tried to run the
grocery store while this was going on. They sold out of the staples like milk and bread fast and
those you couldn’t replenish because supplies were being rationed. Meat and other fresh things
sold quickly as well and weren’t replenishable either. We did have a large stock of canned goods
that were still on the shelves though. We would have to go to the armory at 6

�th and Walnut, now Muhammad Ali, to the Red Cross headquarters for water, and if they had it,
milk and bread. They’d only got these things in about once a week though. I remember my father
had a dog and somehow during the flood it got out from our fenced in yard. My father searched
the area that wasn’t flooded for that thing. It seemed he cared more about that stupid dog than
being in a massive flood. He was sure it had drowned, but after the flood waters finally receded
that dog came back. My father was so excited and relieved to get that dumb dog back.

After elementary school I attended Junior High on Fifth and York, close to the public library, at
Monsarat Junior High. I was there for seventh and eighth-grade. In 19421 started at Louisville
Girls High School where Manual is today. It was odd because at that time the ninth-grade was
separated from the tenth, eleventh, and twelfth. It was more like an introductory year and was in
the Manual building as well. It was also co-ed and the other grades were not. During my time in
junior high and high school we were in a club that focused on knitting sweaters for the troops.
We were first taught how to knit the sweaters and then we set off to knit as we could.
While I was in school World War II was just at its onset. In 1941, towards the end of junior high,
the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, and the U.S. entered the war. We heard the news of the
bombing on the radio and it was alarming. We thought, “How would this affect us?” “Would we
be invaded?” “Would our homes be destroyed”? The only war we had heard about before was
World War I and that war was devastating. For the duration of the war I remember my father
sitting by the radio listening to the news daily. It was ritualistic, but he had to know what was
going on. The radio and newspaper were our sole connection to the world. We were fortunate
that none of my immediate family or close friends had to serve. I believe some distant relatives
served but I wasn’t close to them. Rationing was put into effect as well. We were only allowed
five gallons of gas and five pounds of sugar per month. Shortages of all supplies were common
because they were being used for the war effort. Women first began working in the factories
during this period. Before they’d stay home with kids and take care of the house. I believe World
War II was the beginning of women serving in occupations. When the men went to war, the
factories didn’t have the work force, and the women took their place.
I graduated high school as the war was ending in 1945. I’d go on to attend the University of
Louisville from 1946 to 1947 studying accounting. I joined the Delta Phi Epsilon sorority and at
one of their parties in 1946 I met the man who would become my husband, Harold Rowe. He
was older than me, bom in 1918, and had gone to pharmacy school at the Louisville College of
Pharmacy. U of L and the pharmacy school were separate institutions at that time. In 1948 I left
U of L to marry Harold. We had three children together. Lewis, bom in 1950, lives in Louisville
today and works at the VA Hospital as an ER doctor. He has two children, both boys. Maxine
was bom in 1953, she married and became a Rouben. She lives in Louisville today with three
children, two boys and a girl. Our youngest, Phyllis, was bom in 1957. She married as well
becoming a Cohen and lives in Houston, Texas with two children, both boys.
While the kids were growing up we’d take them to state parks for weekend visits. On several
occasions we took the kids to Chicago. Chicago was a big city that was close and there was
always something to do like go to museums. The children were sent to camp during the summer.
Lewis would always attend Boy Scout camp. Maxine and Phyllis went to the Jewish community

�camp at Camp Tall Trees and Girl Scout camp as well. They were primarily at boy and girl
camps though.
I became a member of my husband’s shul, Keneseth Israel, which was located then on Floyd and
Jacob. Today it can be found on Taylorsville Road. After the kids were bom I attended service at
Agudath Achim because it was close to home and if I needed to put the kids to bed for a nap I
could do so easily. We’d share the holiday celebration with my sister, Frances. Some of the times
we’d celebrate at our home and the others we’d celebrate at my sisters. We were very family
oriented.

My husband died in 2008, but I wasn’t left alone. My children still check in on me frequently.
My son was just reminding me what I needed to say for this interview. I celebrate holidays with
my children. Most of the time we celebrate at their homes but sometimes we get together at
mine. In 20171 traveled to visit my daughter, Phyllis, in Houston and see the aftermath of
Hurricane Harvey. It was eerily like what I had experienced in the 1937 flood. We didn’t have
the wind damage that they had, but the water damage was very similar.

In some ways I think life is better today, kids have more opportunity because they have a broader
access to education and travel more. However, life when I was growing up was simpler and in a
lot of ways I think that’s better. Today’s world is too frivolous. Our entertainment through the
radio seemed more accurate and educational. You didn’t have these fake reality shows or
constant news with murders. We did have murders which are a terrible thing, but our news was
not filled with these stories. It seems like there is more nonsense spread today. All in all, I would
say I had a very ordinary, common, and every day life. I’ve enjoyed it. There were some bad
times but you what do they say? “You have to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad.
love what you got and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget, learn from
your mistakes but never regret. People change, things go wrong, but just remember life goes on.”
I’ve had a wonderful life.

Interview by Ian Stamper

October 2018

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

I am Ann Roberts; I am conducting an interview with Daisy Goldstein for the JFCS archives on
December 10, 2010.
1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when?
The Cohen side of the family originally came to this country because older brother, Ben was not
accepted into the advanced school he wanted (in Poland) so he and his brother, Alex journeyed to
NY “in steerage” expecting to meet an uncle. Unfortunately he had moved. The two boys (aged 16
and 14) went to Fall River, MA where they had another relative. Some time later, another relative
offered them work in Hopkinsville, KY.
Alex’s wife, Jettie Brenner came to Guthrie, KY. The family sold their business (in Latvia) and
immigrated to the US. ln1904 and traveled first class.
On the Baker side, they came to this country from Bessarabia. Lacer Baker’s (married Louise) Father
was in the Oklahoma land rush (1893) He homesteaded near Enid, OK before moving to Hawesville,
KY. where he opened a clothing store.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born?
My mother was Louise Cohen born July 7, 1911 in Greenville, KY.
My Dad was Lacer Baker born November 2, 1906 in Princeton, IN.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
My birth date is February 10, 1933. We spoke English at home.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Jncles/Aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
My parents and the three of us children (Daisy, Sam and Carol) lived in Cannelton IN, where my
parents ran a clothing business.
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come?
In 1956, Irv and I returned to Louisville after he completed an exchange teaching year in Vancouver,
BC.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? Was there a neighborhood
grocery? Drug store?
No, we were one of the only Jewish families in Cannelton, IN, but we did not experience antiSemitism. My father contributed greatly to the community and was well respected. We attended
Temple in Owensboro.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and your
loved ones?
In the 1937 Flood, our house did not flood, but the store flooded. Flood waters did reach the front
steps and the house was on a hill.
8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use when you
raveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do you have of
those trips?
We used a car or the L&amp;N train. I would come to Louisville very often to see family.

�9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
Only in Owensboro for the holidays and special events.

What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?

11. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Did you have a Bar Mitzvah? What are
your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with some of the people that attended
Sunday School with you?
Yes, I attended religious school in Owensboro, KY for one year and was confirmed in 1948.
12. What is your educational background? What was your career? Who or what influenced you to
choose your career?
I majored in business at I.U. One of my jobs was at the Hudson Bay department store while I lived in
Vancouver.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married? Do you have
children? Grandchildren?
We met at the JCC summer camp, Camp Tall Trees in Otter Creek Park, in 1951. On Sadie
Hawkins’s Day, we were “married “ but it was unofficial. I wanted to complete college before marrying,
and we were really married on August 21, 1955, in Louisville, KY.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
My involvement in the Jewish community was sporadic, due to our location.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Cannelton?
I was very involved in athletics, drama and yearbook in High School. There was no overt antiSemitism at that time.
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
We were not really affected by the wars, but my grandfather’s sisters and family were killed in the
Holocaust.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I don’t consider myself a spiritual person but I am religious and committed to Judaism.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
I have always enjoyed photography.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
My favorite memories are centered around family get-togethers.
2 . . What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values would you like to
pass on to those you leave behind?
Honesty, family and faith.

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Directors
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the Jewish Family &amp; Career Services Oral History Project.

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Peter Resnik
Marsna Beck Roth
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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
m
Jerry Fleischer, I am conducting an interview with:Delores Levy
the JFCS archives on
May 12, 2011.
1.
Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did
they travel?

My mother was bom in Louisville (maiden name was Lerner) and lived on Seventh St.; my
grandfather (his name was Lerner) came over in the late 1880s from Lithuania, a town called Troki,
about 20 miles from Vilna. He was educated by tutors. My father (after he was Bar Mitzvah)
managed to leave the country by himself and arrived at Ellis Island in 1906. They traveled by boat to
Ellis Island. He went to Milwaukee and lived with an aunt. He sold newspapers for about 2 years.
His brothers wanted him to come to Louisville and so he lived here for some time. His brothers’
homes were too small so he lived with the Weinberg family.
2.
Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been
other family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My mother’s name was Eugenia (Sis) Lerner. She was born in 1898 in Louisville. My father was Ed
Shaikun. He was born in Lithuania, in Troki.

3.

What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?

Wy birth date is June 2, 1927. English was spoken at home. My mother understood Yiddish but did
not speak it. My father spoke Yiddish.

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
We lived in Greensburg, Kentucky about 90 miles from Louisville. Ours was the only Jewish family in
the town, but we got along with everyone. My grandfather spent part of his time in Greensburg living
with us. I had 3 sisters and 2 brothers. My father came to Louisville to buy supplies for our store in
Greensburg and sometimes we stayed over Sunday. We would have a picnic at Jacob’s Park and all
the children could play together.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
We had relatives in Louisville. We traveled by automobile or bus. We needed to make Jewish
connections. Our parents wanted us to have a Jewish education. We moved back to Greensburg
after the Crash I moved to Louisville after 1956 and my marriage. Mother came from Greensburg to
make holidays for Uncle Abe and family. To get to Keneseth Israel synagogue for services the
WHOLE FAMILY HAD TO WALK THROUGH THE ClTY HOSPITAL LOBBY. AFTER THE YOM TOV MEAL EVERYONE
CAME TO OUR HOUSE TO SIT OUTSIDE AND VISIT, AND STAYED FOR DINNER

3.
What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood?
Did you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?

�We were the only Jewish family in Greensburg. We walked to synagogue. My family had a dry goods
store on the big square. Father taught us some Sunday school lessons to the family. Greensburg is
a very small town.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
My older sister went to school in Louisville and my mother had to come to Louisville to pick her up at
the Broadway and Barrett overpass and take her home.

8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?
When visiting Louisville, we often traveled by car (3 hours) so my parents could buy merchandise. In
Greensburg we walked, and we had no phones. When we visited relatives in the Northeast we
traveled my train. My mother and older siblings went to Chicago to the World’s Fair by car. My dad
and I went to the East Coast by train to visit relatives

9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
We were active members of Keneseth Israel Synagogue. We were observant.

W.What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?

We closed the store on High Holidays and came to Louisville. We always had large dining table for
Seders.
11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch
with some of the people that attended Sunday School with you?
My younger brother, Arnold, went to New York with his family to learn his Bar Mitzvah. We rented a
cottage in Rockaway.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
I have a B.A. in social work. I was brought up in retail, and I was a housewife.

13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
/ went to the University of Kentucky in Lexington. My husband was in the Navy and we met when
he came back. I was a friend of his sister. He waited forme while I was in the sanitarium in
Lexington, KY recuperating from TB. I/Ve were married in Keneseth Israel by Rabbi Brilliant in

�1951. We have 3 sons, 6 grandsons and 1 granddaughter. All of the siblings have Jewish
spouses.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
/ was a counselor at Camp Tall Trees in Kentucky. That was the Jewish Community Center’s camp.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?

We were active in the general community while in Greensburg. We experienced very little, if any,
anti-Semitism. My parents were very active in all civic organizations. My father was on the town
board and my mother was Matron in Eastern Star.

16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?

I had an uncle in WWI. My brother was in the Army (Signal Corps) and my husband was in the Navy
in the Pacific. Everyone came home.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I am still active in the synagogue and still a traditional Jew.

18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
At the University of Kentucky I was affiliated with everything Jewish, especially Hillel. In Greensburg,
I was active in all they had. I played sax in high school and college bands. I always looked forward
to coming to Louisville and my father teaching us about Judaism.

19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
I had to manage a budget. The whole family would get together at my Uncle’s house.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?

I have small town values and morals and also Jewish values and morals. My parents were a large
part of that. I hope that my children and grandchildren never forget their origins.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. lam
with
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Kimberly Feinberg, I am conducting an interview
Denise Schiller
for the JFVS archives
July 20, 2007.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?
My family went to Canada. Father went to St. Catharines Ontario. My mother went to Rochester
NY, and father came because of Russian army, and his father met him when he was visiting a sister
in Belarus, and said you can’t go home you have to leave now. Left with brother and friend and his
father gave the guide who was taking them over the boarder half the money and took a piece of
paper, tore it in half, and gave half of it to my father and was to give it to the guide when he crossed
safely and then the guide could get the remainder of the money. This was in the early 1920’s.
Mother came after revolution and she had a sister in Rochester NY, so she didn’t have to leave
illegally, and landed in NY and had to then make her way, by herself, with a language barrier to
Rochester NY. Some women from an aide society helped her.
Mother left because older sister had said to her, “Go out of here Caroline, leave you’re not married
you have no children leave. I would leave if I could but I have children it’s too difficult for me but
you can leave.” She wouldn’t have left without that encouragement

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they bom?
Mother, Caroline Chatman, (her brother had gone to Paris close to turn of century, because it was
closer than America) (older sister came with her other brother to Rochester NY and that’s why
mother went there.) Mother traveled with a woman older than her from the same shtetl. And this
woman was the girlfriend to the friend of her fathers who escaped with her father. And they were
introduced through them. Father talked mother into marriage and moving to St. Catharine’s. Mother
lived in US before marriage. She was bom in 1906.

Father Morton Revzen 1902-1903

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
March 16, 1936 Russian and Yiddish and English. In St Catharine’s Ontario Canada. Lived there
until she was married. Twin sister Joan, older sister Norine, and parents

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
Lived in upscale neighborhood mainly Anglican. Jews on the street where I lived, small Jewish
population in town and synagogue, only one though that had orthodox bent with conservative
congregation. Could walk to school. Went to Hebrew school by car.

�Had a neighborhood store that was not a drug store, it was like a food mart. A comer store.

6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?
Wasn’t here

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
Automobile, and streetcar when older along with buses. Within city would go to movies. Out of the
city starting at 6 went to summer camp with twin and older sister. Did not take family holidays the
way they do today. Did not travel overseas for holidays at all. Parents did, but we went to summer
camp . and as mid teens when to local beach where parents rented a house for two summers.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?
Yes.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
High holydays, Passover, bar and bat mitzvahs, Jewish holidays.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
No didn’t have bat mitzvah or confirmation .

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
Baccalaureate from university of Toronto. Then went onto teachers college and became a teacher.
In my age group women were either nurses or teachers. Taught elementary school in Toronto, and
private school in LA and St. Matthews elementary in Louisville.
All because when my husband was in school after I graduated and went to teachers college. We
were married at the end of undergrad, and he was at the University of Toronto med, then he interned
in LA and residency in Louisville, thus the reasons for my moving.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
Answered above.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?
Met him at University of Toronto. Ran around the same general group or he heard about me being
an out of town girl. Married in St. Catharine’s June 26 1958.
3 children
All bom in Louisville, KY

�14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?
Federation board, executive fed. Board, National women’s board, had leadership roles with
National board, chairmen of Midwest region for women, taken Midwest group of women to NY for
roots mission, was on planning an allocation for many years. Active role in Louisville. Parents,
father very active and very much of a Zionist, raised funds in his community, great deal of influence
on her life, much better to give than receive, and after family look after the needs of your Jewish
community and then the rest of the world (Jews).

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
Know nothing about WWI. Father never served because he was too young for WWI then too old for
WWII. And his father made sure he got out before serving in the Russian army because survival in
the Russian army was very slim. He was very involved in the news. As a young person I remember
sitting around the table listening to the six o’clock news on the radio and we weren’t allowed to
talk. While the WWII was going badly, my father feared, and had great fears that the Germans were
going to win. He thought that if it got too bad he contemplated putting the family in the car and
driving us into the Well and Ship canal.
For the Israeli wars we were not physically affected at all. But parents gave money. First time they
went to Israel was in 1950. Soon after it became a state, it was always important to my father.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Wish I had some favorite. But they would be Passover, going to my dad’s older sister’s home, and
aunt would have cokes that were Kosher for Passover along with candies.
I lived in a smaller community and knew I was Jewish. We were not allowed to integrate socially,
dating, and such. At 14 or 15 whenever you get really interested in boys, I could never go out with
anyone that wasn’t Jewish. And then I was part of something like young Judea and they would have
meetings and get together with other Jewish communities in surrounding cities.

17. What interests do you have?
Main interest would first be family, children, and grandchildren, married children and grandchildren
live out of town so I visit them in Jacksonville Fl, and Chappaqua, NY, active with Louisville
Orchestra and sit on their board and comities, docent at speed art museum, always active in the
Jewish community whenever asked to do anything always does it and has been active with the
federation, young women’s divisions, and always active in raising funds from Louisvillians for local
Jewish community, Israel, and Jews around the world.

18. What are your favorite family memories?

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I hope I instilled in my children to go beyond themselves and their families to help others in their
community, to be charitable in their communities and help out others not as fortunate as themselves.

�Those are the values, the values of helping others. You have to go beyond yourself and what you
can buy and enjoy. No greater legacy can a parent leave a child than a good name, and I hope when
I’m gone I’ve done that as my parents have done before me.

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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

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I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

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r '* Presidents

My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by interested people.
It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

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1. lam
with________
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Kimberly Feinberg / , I am conducting an interview
Dolly Starman \/z
f°r the JFVS archives
August 3, 2007
.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

Grandparents came after one of the pogroms in Russia.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they bom?
Father, Charles D. Gordon in NY 1896
Mother, Rebecca Verran Gordon Louisville 1898.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
July 6, 1921. Mostly English, a little Yiddish when they didn’t want us to understand.
In NY for a while, then moved down here, to Louisville in 1933 during the
depression. My grandparents were here, along with my brother Armond, and sister
Sonia. When we first came we lived in my grandfathers’ house 951 S. Fist Street then
104 East Lee, where I lived until I graduated from college and joined the navy.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
The house on 1st street there were a number of more affluent Jews who had moved
out of the ghetto on Preston. We were in walking distance of Keneseth Israel and
Adath Israel, and the neighborhood grocery was called Pigly Wiggly. We didn’t use a
neighborhood grocery because my mother’s brothers were druggists.

6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?
We all tuned into the radio all day. I had just started at UofL in September of ‘36, and
we heard them evacuate my grandfather. My parents were at work that sat night and
we had friends over who ate most of the food. And we woke up that morning to 6ft of
water, my parents finally got home late Saturday night, as the streets were filling with
water.

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

�By train, I had my first ride in a plane when I was in the navy. I went to NY to the
beaches for the summer as a graduation present from high school. Mainly back and
forth to NY.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue I temple?

Yes, Keneseth Israel, and that’s where I went to Sunday school and my younger
brother but my sister went to Adath Jeshurun. I taught Sunday school at Keneseth
Israel, Brith Shalom, and 5 years at Adath Israel. I was in the first post graduate class
at Keneseth Israel.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
All the holidays. There were none that we didn’t observe. Passover was a big affair at
the family home on 1st St. My grandfather died the last day of Passover. He got weak
during the flood and fell down the stairs I believe. Hanukkah was a huge family
celebration and all the kids got loads of presents and Hanukkah gelt.

10.

Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

Yes, no, no they didn’t have bat mitzvahs when I was a girl. I attended the post grad
class at Keneseth Israel. I was very young and ahead in school. So even though I was
14 when I grad from high school. There was no place I could go to Sunday school so
I went to the post grad school. My brother was confirmed and had a bar mitzvah at
Keneseth Israel.
11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I have a BA from UofL, a MS from Perdue, and masters from Chicago and MAT
from Montclair State. Math teacher for 45 yrs. I taught in Pascal, Washington,
Norfolk, VA, and Kentucky (Louisville) 23 years in high school, 10 years at
collegiate, then taught at Bellarmine and Jefferson Community College the last 6
years.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

1933 to Louisville during the depression. My mother’s family was well off and my
dad went to work for her brothers.
13. How did you meet your husband/wiffe? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?
In the navy, I was married in Seattle Washington January 26, 1945. for 62 yrs before
my husband died. I have 3 daughters and 6 granddaughters.

�14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

I was a leader in youth clubs, taught at Adath Jeshurun, and taught at Keneseth Israel.
I needed the 5 dollars the temple Sunday school paid. This would pay my gas bill for
the whole week. I stayed there for 25 years. Yes my whole family was involved.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
WWI my uncle Dolly got consumption, I was named after him. Uncle Noah, was in
WWI and uncle Sam, he was big in the forty and eighters. They had an engine and he
was very active and his sons were in the drum and bugle corps for the children of
veterans.
Brother went to service afterwards, he was a doctor at the time of WWII. My mother
used to mail him tomatoes, and he would be the only one with a ripe tomato in all of
Guam.
I spent years in the navy. And I worked hard, and just got ahead.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

I taught Sunday school when I was in the service. I would get out in the morning
when I was in Seattle. I love teaching and I love religious work. I was very active in the JCC
the YMHA, I led a girls club. They’re all Bnai Brith or USY now, but in those days they all
came out of the YMHA. They used to have big skit nights to raise money. And the group I
coached would win. I was active in the theatre group at the YMHA. I taught Sunday school
until my last child graduated. We were very instrumental in the Eliahu academy, my
husband was a former pres of it, and in later years I taught advanced math to the 6th grade
class. So much so that when Lenny went there they skipped him a grade at Highland Jr.
because he knew more than the teacher.
Religion played a huge part of my life, it does to this day I go every Shabbat to shul.
17. What interests do you have?

Theatre, reading groups, great books, refereed hockey games at the park.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

The beautiful holidays.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you Dike to pass on to those you leave behind?

I have no idea. There’s a place for everybody, and the beauty of religion helps you go
from day today. I can’t imagine a life without it. I still keep a kosher house, and I
don’t eat out. The beauties of the Jewish religion is everyone’s heritage.
I got a letter from a woman who just converted; I had a lot of interesting people who
converted after going through my classes, one young man became a chassid.

�I was the teacher of the year in mathematics, and always made it enjoyable for my
classes.
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�* 15 November 2010-8 Kislev 5771

Dolly Gordon Sturman, 89, died Sunday, November 14, 2010, at Four
Courts Senior Center.

Dolly was a mathmetician and her teaching career spanned forty-five
years; she taught at Parkland Junior High, Shawnee High, Louisville
Collegiate, Ahrens High School, Atherton High School, Bellarmine
College and Jefferson Community College. She was named a Kentucky
Star Teacher in 1968 and 1970 and was inducted into the Atherton Hall
of Fame in 2009.
Dolly was born in Brooklyn and her family moved to Louisville when she
was twelve. She went to Girls High School, then the University of
Louisville, graduating with a BA in Mathematics. She received her MS
in Mathematics from Purdue University and a Master's in Teaching from
Montclair Teacher's College. She played basketball, volleyball, and
hockey in high school and college. Dolly enlisted in the navy during
World War II and, as a Lieutenant, attended the University of Chicago
Aerology School and became a meteorologist stationed in Seattle.
While in the US Navy she met and married Lt. Stanley Sturman; they
were married for 62 years having settled and raised their family in
Louisville.
She was an active member of Keneseth Israel Congregation where she
was Secretary of the Board; she also taught Sunday School at Adath
Israel Temple for over 25 years. Among her many achievements Dolly
was on the executive board of the National Council of Teachers of
Mathematics, Life member of Hadassah and the National Council of
Jewish Women, and a Kentucky Colonel. Her volunteer activities
activities included recording for the blind reading math books, teaching
"new math" at the Jewish Community Center, as well as teaching senior
water aerobics there. She performed with Heritage Theater in many
plays at the JCC.

She is survived by her daughters Noris Friedman (Avi), Shelley Sturman
(Noam Stopak) and Laurel Woldson (Barry), and grandchildren;
Rebecca (Nat), Chana, Danielle, Rachel, Sasha, Celia and Emily.

Her funeral will be held on Monday, November 15, 2010, at 3:30 p.m.
with burial following at Keneseth Israel Cemetery. Visitation after 2:30

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
I am Madeline Bernstein

I am conducting an interview with:

Donald Bornstein

On October 22, 2001 for the JFCS archives.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My parents came from Palestine and settled in Georgia. Then, when the tornado hit in Louisville,
builders went there from all over to help rebuild the business district in 1890. My grandfather ended
up staying and starting his own company. My mother’s parents came from Poland and came to
Louisville to join the family.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
Ale Bornstein and Fannie Scher Bornstein were my parents. Both were born in New York, NY.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
June 14, 1923 is my birth date. Some Yiddish, but mostly English were spoken in my home.
1. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/Aunts?
My parents, my sister and I lived in the same house at 2019 Napoleon Blvd.
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
I was born in Louisville.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
I walked to school every day. We did not live in a Jewish neighborhood. I went to a conservative
Sunday school. There was a drug and grocery store in the neighborhood.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
Not asked during this interview.
3. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?

�My family had a car, but we took trips by train to the W orld’s Fair.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
My grandparents’ families, the Bornsteins and the Schers, were members and were active at Anshei
Sfard congregation. My father and mother belonged to Adath Jeshurun.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
All the holidays and rituals were observed.
11. Did you attend Sunday school or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? W hat are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
I had a Bar Mitzvah, but was never confirmed. I attended religious school at Adath Jeshurun.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
I have a BA in engineering from the University of Louisville Speed School of Engineering, and over 50
years in our family construction company.
13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
My wife’s uncle married my sister and that is how we met. We married on March 2, 1947. We had
two children, Lynn and James.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
My whole family was involved in the Jewish community. I started in AZA as a teenager. I have been
on the boards of Jewish Family and Vocational Service, Adath Jeshurun and the Standard country
Club.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
NA
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
My father was in WWl and I served in WWII.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

�My spiritual memories are of my Bar Mitzvah as well as my son’s and grandson’s.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
I enjoy reading, fifties and classical music, and bridge.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
My favorite family memories are family gatherings, Hanukkah, anniversaries, and all happy family and
Jewish occasions.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
I would like to be remembered as a good friend, good citizen, with high morals, love of family, and
close friends. I hope my family has learned those values from me.

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2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My father’s parents came from Palestine and settled in Georgia. Then when the
tornado hit in Louisville, builders went there from all over to help rebuild the
business district in 1890. My grandfather ended up staying and starting his own
company. My mother’s parents came from Poland and came to Louisville to join the
family.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

Ale Bornstein and Fannie Scher Bornstein were my parents. Both were bom in New
York, NY
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Uncles/aunts?
Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?

June 14, 1923 is my birth date. Some Yiddish, but mostly English were spoken in my
home. My parents, my sister, and I lived in the same house at 2019 Napoleon Blvd.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

I walked to school everyday. We did not live in a Jewish neighborhood. I went to a
conservative Sunday school. There was a drug and grocery store in the neighborhood.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

Not asked during this interview.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

My family had a car, but we took trips by train to the world’s fair.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

My grandparent’s families, the Bornstein’s and the Scher’s were members and were
active at Anshei Sfard Congregation. My father and mother belonged to Adath
Jeshuvun.

�9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

All of the holidays and rituals were observed.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

I had a bar mitzvah, but was never confirmed. I attended religious school at Adath
Jeshuvun.

11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?

I have a BA in engineering from the University of Louisville Speed School of
Engineering, and over 50 years in our family construction company.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I was bom in Louisville.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

My wife’s uncle married my sister and that is how we met. We married on March 2,
1947. We had 2 children, Lynn and James.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

My whole family was involved in the Jewish community. I started in AZA as a
teenager. I have been on the Boards of Jewish Family and Vocational Service, Adath
Jeshurun, and the Standard Country Club.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

My father was in WWI and I served in WWII.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

My spiritual memories are of my Bar Mitzvah as well as my son’s and grandson’s.
17. What interests do you have?

I enjoy reading, fifties and classical music, and bridge.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

�My favorite family memories are family gatherings, Hanukkah, anniversaries, and all
happy family and Jewish occasions.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I would like to be remembered as a good friend, good citizen, with high morals, love
of family, and close friends. I hope my family has learned those values from me.

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�Monday, October 26, 2009 - 8 Heshvan 5770

Donald Scher Bornstein, who considered himself the “luckiest man in
the world,” completed his 86th year of life on October 23, 2009.
Donald is survived by the light of his life, his loving wife of over 62
years, Elaine Benovitz Bornstein; his children, Lynn Callif (David) and
Jimmy Bornstein (Lisa); his grandchildren, Dustin Callif (Lisa), Rob
Callif, Josh Bornstein, and Jessica Bornstein; and his great-grandson,
Dylan Callif.
Donald loved his leadership roles in Bornstein Building Company and Ale
Bornstein Inc., where he served for over seventy years. Donald attended
Louisville Male High School and was a proud graduate of the Louisville Speed
Scientific School, receiving a Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering.
Having been bom on Flag Day, he was most patriotic and a veteran of WWIL
He was also a proud patron of the Louisville arts, served on multiple
community boards, including the Standard Country Club, and a life member of
the Kosair Shrine Temple. He was a member of Congregation Adath Jeshurun
Synagogue.
Funeral services are at Herman Meyer &amp; Son, 1338 Ellison Avenue, on
Monday, October 26, 2009 at 2 p.m. Visitation prior to the funeral is at 1:00
p.m. The family will be receiving visitors on Monday, October 26th and
Tuesday, October 27th from 7 - 9 p.m. at 7614 Old Salem Road.
Remembrances may include U of L Speed School, Hosparus of Louisville or
the charity of your choice.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

I am
Jerry Fleischer, I am conducting an
interview with
Donald Roth
for the JFCS
archives on April 2011.

1. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when?
How did they travel?

They came for freedom originally from Austria on father’s side and mother’s side from Russia.
They came by boat across the Atlantic Ocean.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been
other family names used in the past? Where, when and why was it changed?

Father: Norman; mother: Matilda. Mother was born in Russia; father was born in Louisville.

3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Born 7/23/24. English was spoken at home.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncle/Aunts? Brothers? Sisters?

..ved in Louisville with mother and father.
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How
did they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?

Born in Louisville.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood?
Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were
in your neighborhood?

There were a substantial number of Jews. Walked sometimes to elementary school. Went to
Sunday school (Brith Sholom and then at Adath Israel). There were grocery stores in the
neighborhood; also drug store and the usual neighborhood stores.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you
and your loved ones?
The flood affected the rest of the extended family; many cousins and other relatives resided with
Roth family due to effects of the flood.

. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?

�Automobile, bus, trolley and bicycle in town. Out of town, we would travel by car or bus to
Cincinnati.

Was your family involved m a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?

Members of Brith Sholom and Adath Israel Temples. We were observant concerning Jewish
traditions.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?

We observed all major Jewish holidays
11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did
you have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in
touch with some of the people you attended Sunday School with you.

Went to Sunday school and was confirmed at Adath Israel. Still keep in touch with those who are
left (still living.)
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?

graduated Male High School and went to Purdue University, but did not graduate. Then joined
the Army and went to military schools. Worked in jewelry store for father. Parents influenced
career endeavors. Went to Gem School in Chicago.

13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
Introduced by a mutual friend, and knew after a few months this was the one. Married at Adath
Jeshurun Synagogue in Louisville on 11/22/70. Have three children with wife Ann (2 boys and 1
girl).
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish community outside of your temple or
synagogue when you were growing up?

Member of YMHA downtown.
15. What was involvement in the non-Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?

Almost no prejudice. Non-mixture between Jews and gentiles (minimum contact).

16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor?
What are your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?

�Was in Army for three years. Remember the day Pearl Harbor was bombed.

17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Nothing special about spiritual memories.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?

Stamp-collecting; nowadays, involved with stamps and postcard collections.
19. What are favorite family memories - whether it was with your family off origin, or with
extended family and friends?

Holidays and when grandchildren came to visit us.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you
want to leave for your children and future generations?
Legacy: To grow up as a decent Jewish being; to live life as a credit to yourself and family.

�For Every Season Of Your Life
Board of Directors
President
Jay Klempner

Vice Presidents
Debbie Friedman

Sandi Fnedson
Reed Weinberg
Treasurer
Mark Ament

Immediate Past President
Barbara Coloberg

To Whom It May Concern:

Past President

Lowell D. Katz
Directors
Gieg Berman
Lance Gilbert
Alyson Goldberg

Ariel Kronenberg

I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through

the Jewish Family &amp; Career Services Oral History Project.

Marlin Margulis
Sheiiah Abramson Miles
Stephanie Muichnick

2821 Klempner Way. Louisville. Kentucky 40205.

Peter Resnik
Marsha Beck Roth
Hunt Schuster
Brian Segal
&gt;ard Sweet
j Wisotsky

Mephr Word

My completed story will be sent to me and a second
copy will be kept in the JFCS library unless

Executive Director
□uJy Freundlich Tiell

otherwise stipulated in writing by me.

Past Presidents
MRche" Charney
Jane Goidsteiii
Robert Levine
Howaiti Markus
Gail Pohn

Lillian Seligman
Sieve Shapiro

Participant

Jeffrey Weiss

Honorary Directors
Arthur Grossman

Interviewer

Shelton R. Weber
Rabbi David Anc’-jO'S
Rabbi Avft'hom Litvin
Rabbi Stanley Miles
Rabbi loe Rook: Rapport

Date

Rabbi Gayira R kooks
Rabbi Rcben Siosherg
Association of Jewish

Family &amp; Children's Agencies

international Association o
Jewish Vocational Services

Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center » 2821 Klempner Way ° Louisville, Kentucky 40205
502-452-6341
FAX: 502-452-6718
www.jfcslo uisville. org

Career Services | Multicultural Services I Counseling Services | Klein Older Adult Services
JEWISH
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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1.

lam
Ann Friedman
with
Dorothy Spier
on_______ October 15, 2001

, I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?
My grandmother on my mother’s side came from He Braun, Germany, when she was
18. Her husband also came from He Braun, Germany. Her husband was about 60
years old, but they fell in love. He was wealthy. They bought a house on 632 East
Broadway. He owned property. They had three children. My mother died when she
was very young. My aunt, Gertrude, was a second mother to me. My mother was sick
a lot. My mother played the piano and my sister played the violin. They would
perform at the theatre. Lots of famous musicians played there as well. Uncle Sam
was the youngest child.
My grandmother was a Fleischaker. They owned a butcher shop in Germany. My
grandmother was one of 15 children, 12 survived. My grandmother came as a
chaperone to her sister.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My mother, Ruth Berg, was bom in Louisville. My father, Bus Flexner 9/8/189512/30/1960, was bom in Shelbyville, Ky. He worked for Kaufiruan Straus. He started
the Greater Louisville Building and Loan Association in 1918.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
I was bom 10/6/18. My mother and grandmother spoke German when they didn’t
want us to know what they were talking about. When my grandfather died, the
children were quite young, and my grandmother took them to Germany to bring his
parents over. Her father died while she was there. My aunt, Gertrude, took lessons,
and they wanted her to stay. She was very talented.
I was bom at Jewish Hospital and I lived at 632 East Broadway. I lived there until I
was 8.1 went to Nicolas Singer school which is no longer in existence. My
grandmother, Berg, mother, father, sister, and I all lived in the same house.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
My neighborhood was wonderful. We lived on Broadway and went to Bardstown
Road. We would walk to Cane Hell Cemetery. My family would take long walks.
Not a lot of Jews lived in my neighborhood. The Spiers (my husband’s aunt and

�uncle) lived next door. His cousin’s came over from Germany when I was in high
school. My husband went all the way to Jacksonville, Illinois to ask by aunt if it
would be okay to get married.
I walked to school, but someone walked me. I went to Belnap, Douglass, and
Swannee and Highland Junior High School. He drove us to school, because he had a
Franklin car.
I was driven to 3rd street to Adath Israel. My mother and grandmother always took
us, and we would then go to monies and lunch. We also drove to temple. We went to
Broadway for the Kurtz meat market, and then to Douglass when they moved to the
loop. Friedmans owned a store.

6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?
This question was not asked during this interview.

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
Train. Dad would drive us to Jacksonville. My mother, Ruth, and her sister, Gertrude,
married my father, Gus Flexner, and his brother, David Flexner. (He had a lady’s
dress shop). They lived in Jacksonville, Illinois and father would go home to his job,
because he was very conscientious about his job. One year we went to Missouri. We
drove out there. My aunt, uncle, and whole family went. I met my grandmother’s
sister in Japing, Missouri. I have also been to Jeffersonville, Kansas, Pittsburg,
Chicago, and Atlantic City where I fell in love with the ocean.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?
My father remarried after my mother died. He married a choir member’s sister,
Melva Vick. She was a part of a group who were on the radio, WHAS. My father was
the host. He also had a children’s program. He always promoted Greater Louisville.
T Bar was started by my father at Greater Louisville. It was set up like a ranch.
Randy and Cactus were there. My father attended regularly. His second wife wet
with the rabbi, Fred, and I would pick up dad. My grandmother had a Kosher home
in Germany, but didn’t observe here.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
I attended high holiday services and celebrated Passover. When I married Fred we
had servisemen for holidays. He was very orthodox. Fred’s family belonged to AJ. I
didn’t keep a kosher home.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
Yes. Lawrence Granman and Clarence Judah were the teachers. I was confirmed, but
didn’t learn Hebrew.

�11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?
I went o Belknap until 6th grade, Highland Junior High for 3 years, and Atherton for 3
years. My father wouldn’t allow me to be a nurse. I studied sociology. My father
decided to let me go into nursing. I went to Jewish Hospital Nursing School on Floyd
and Breckenridge, which was connected to the hospital. I was on my own for the 1st
time. It was difficult to adjust. The longer I stayed the more friends I would make. I
didn’t keep my care there because I didn’t want to seem different (no one else had a
car). When I graduated in 1941 I worked at Jewish Hospital as head nurse. I worked
with Hilda Fox. I was well known for my dedication to the hospital. In 1944 my son
was bom and I stopped working.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I was bom here.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?
Fred Spier came from Germany to stay with his aunt and uncle. He wanted to go to
Jerusalem, but his parents wanted him to come to Louisville, where they lived at
1233 S. Brook. He was 18 when he came to the United States in 1935.1 met him
soon after through his aunt and uncle who were close friends. We dated off and on
for 7 years. I dated other people, but I married Fred. When I got married it was a
double wedding with my sister on 9/10/41. We lived on Douglas Blvd. My father
walked my sister and me down the isle. Dr. Rauch married us. We spent the night at
the Brown Hotel. Fred was in the service. Fred was at Fort Knox, and then we took
the train to Chicago. My sister and her husband came the next day. They stayed at the
Sherman with us.
We had two children, Bonnie Spier 12/13/44, and Susan Spier Katz 7/2/46.

14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?
I went to temple for Shabbat as often as I could. My children went to Sunday school.
I was part of the sisterhood, Jewish Benevolent Society, Hadassah, and I volunteered.
I work with Suzie Katz who does a lot of volunteer work.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
Fortunately no, but I felt badly about the wars in Israel.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
The first time I saw the ocean. The day my husband died, I had stayed with him
through the whole process of his death. The last day he knew he was going to die, so
the rabbi sang one of his songs and they recited the Shema together. My husband was
deeply religious and wonderful.

�Religion means a lot to me. I learned more conservative Judaism then Fred. Religion
is the base of my life, and it increased after I married Fred.

17. What interests do you have?
Family! Water exercise, music concerts, cards, bridge, poker, and volunteer work

18. What are your favorite family memories?
Growing up, my mother, sister, and I went to Foutains Ferry and had lunch or dinner.
Saturday, Betty Hess and my mother (who were like sisters) would go to temple with
us and then the Hess family would take us to Jacob’s Park. We’d go back with them
until dad would pick us up. They would have dinner with us on Sunday evening.
Children came to dinner at the Katz’s, and we would get to see Amy every day, she
came to dinner a lot. We would have her spend the night, and they would make hot
chocolate.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
My legacy is being a good parent and grandparent. I want to feel like I made a
difference. I have a love of family, I’m honest, and hopefully because of me my
children and grandchildren will have a better life.

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Marjorie B. Kohn
President
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President Elect/Treasurer

Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
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Robert Riley
Vice Presidents
Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President

Mitchell Charney
Jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents
Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
Arthur Grossman
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Honorary Directors
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■n Berman
joan Byer
Howard L. Cantor
Natalie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
Simon Fields
Phyllis Florman
Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
Debbie Hyman
Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O'Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
Susan Waterman
Frank Weisberg
Rabbi Avrohom Litvin
Rabbi Stanley Miles
Rabbi Joe Rooks Rapport
Rabbi Gaylia R. Rooks
Rabbi Robert Slosberg
Rabbi Bradley C.Tecktiel

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky

40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS library unless I choose to keep it myself.

Participant/

Witness

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1.

Provided by Ed Bornstein, 2/10/2010

FAMILY HISTORY. My father immigrated to the U.S. from Bessarabia, now Moldova,
2.
arriving in January, 1921. He came with his brother who was 2 years older. They came to
Louisville because their aunt had immigrated here in 1906. She came because her uncle, Jacob
Pinchas Bornstein (was Gorenstein) had settled in Louisville about 1890. My father and his
brother came in the wake of the Bolshevik revolution which created great turmoil in their
homeland.
My mother’s mother and her grandmother immigrated from the town of Brody in 1892.
Brody is now in Ukraine, but was then at the far eastern border of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Brody at tha ttime had a large Jewish population, as many Jews had come there from Russia at
various times during the 19th century due to increases in anti-Semitism in Russia. Because it
was so close to the border, it was a fairly easy refuge.
My maternal grandfather was also from Brody, and I think he immigrated about the same
time. He became a naturalized citizen of the U.S. in 1894. I still have his Naturalization
Certificate. They immigrated because conditions in their homeland were not good, and the
prospect of the Goldene Medina lured them as it did countless others. Also, there were good and
bad times for Jews under the Austro-Hungarian regime, depending on the official attitude at the
time. I believe their immigration may also have been due, in part, to increasing anti-Semitism. I
believe they first immigrated to Terre Haute, Indiana because some of their relatives from Brody
had already settled there. I am not sure why they then moved to Louisville, but possibly they
were following other relatives.
PARENTS. My mother was Sarah Moss, bom in Louisville in 1909. Her father’s name
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was originally Moscisker, and her mother’s maiden name was Hirsch.
My father was Moshe David Gorenstein, bom in Bender, Bessarabia in 1902. He took the
name Maurice Bornstein when he came to Louisville. His great uncle, Jacob Pinchas, had
already taken the name Bornstein. I don’t know why.
PERSONAL AND FAMILY INFO. I was born in Louisville on September 25, 1941.
4.
My parents spoke English primarily, but often conversed in Yiddish when their children were not
to know what they were talking about. I have one brother, Alan, who is 7-1/2 years my senior.
We had no extended family members living in our house.
When I was born we lived at 109 Hughes Court, near the comer of First and Brandeis
Streets, very near to U of L. When I was 5, we moved to the Highlands.
5.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SCHOOLS. I have very little memory of my first
neighborhood (until I was 5), except that I know we had several Jewish neighbors - the Shensons,
the Moscowitzes, the Baers and a Snyder family. Nearby were the Ginsburgs on Brandeis, and a
large number of Jewish families on First Street, Brandeis, Avery Court and the neighborhood to
the north between First and Second Streets.
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�When we moved to the Highlands in 1947, there were several Jewish families in our
neighborhood, particularly on Village Drive. During my teens, we had no less than 30 Jewish
teenagers within a very few blocks.
I walked to Belknap Elementary School, beginning in second grade. I rode my bike to
Highland Junior High and car-pooled to Atherton High School.
I attended Sunday School at Adath Jeshurun at Brook and College Streets through
confirmation. I was either driven or I took the bus, for both religious school and Shabbat
services until I was in High School. There was a grocery store and drug store within three blocks
of my home.
6.
1937 FLOOD. I was not bom until 1941, but my mother and older brother went to New
York to stay with my aunt and uncle during the 1937 flood. My father stayed in Louisville to
help with the flood relief effort.
7.
TRAVEL. Travel was by bus or by car during my youth. Trips included a tour of the
west when I was 14, and other trips to Florida and Chicago.
8.
FAMILY SYNAGOGUE INVOLVEMENT. My father was a member of the Board of
Trustees at Adath Jeshurun in the mid-1950s. My great-uncle, Leon Goldes, was shammas at
Anshei Sfard in the 1950s.
9.
HOLIDAY AND RITUAL OBSERVANCE. In my home we had seders on Passover
both nights, and often, though not always, lit candles, ate challah and drank wine on had Shabbat.
We observed the High Holy Days regularly, attending services and fasting for Yom Kippur.
10.
RELIGIOUS SCHOOL, BAR MITZVAH. I attended religious school at Anshei Sfard
(1st grade) and then at Adath Jeshurun from 2nd grade through confirmation in 1956. I
celebrated my Bar Mitzvah at Adath Jeshurun in 1954.
EDUCATION, CAREER. I hold bachelor’s and master’s degrees in electrical
11.
engineering and a law degree. I have been practicing law for 25 years after earlier careers in
electrical contracting and engineering.
12.

WHY AM I HERE. Bom in Louisville

13.
IMMEDIATE FAMILY. Met my wife, Marsha Perelmuter, in 1961 at a college fraternity
party at U of L. We were married in 1965 at Adath Jeshurun. We have two daughters, Lisa and
Michelle, and a son, Robert.
14.
JEWISH COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. I have been a member of the Board of
Trustees of Congregation Adath Jeshurun since 1978, was Treasurer 1992-1994 and President,
1994-1996. I have been Chair or Co-Chair of the Renovation Committee since 2003. My wife,
Marsha, has been active at the Jewish Community Center, as a volunteer for many years and later
as an employee in various capacities for 25 years. My son, Robert, is actively involved with JCL.
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�WORLD WARS, ISRAELI WARS. To my knowledge, my family was not affected by
15.
World War I. During World War II, my father had to close his business for two years because he
was unable to acquire materials necessary for electrical contracting work. During that period, he
worked as an inspector at Jeff Boat for the construction of landing craft (LSTs) for the Armed
Forces. My daughter, Lisa, was living in Israel in 1991 during the Gulf War, and was issued a
gas mask in the event of an attack by Iraq.
SPIRITUAL MEMORIES. Passover seders at my Great Aunt and Uncle’s home when I
16.
was a child. Listening to Koi Nidre on Erev Yom Kippur. Reading Torah. Although I was
largely detached from religious activities in my twenties and thirties, I did attend services
regularly after my father’s death (I was then 31) for Kaddish. Since I joined the Board of
Trustees of Adath Jeshurun in 1978, my synagogue involvement and religious observance has
increased, particularly after the Bat Mitzvah of my oldest daughter in 1980. It is difficult to
articulate the effect religion has had on my life, except to say that my belief have grown through
the years and has been a source of strength and comfort in times of joy, grief and stress.
PERSONAL INTERESTS. My interests include my wife of 44 years, my children and
17.
grandchildren, reading, wood working and community involvement, particularly at Adath
Jeshurun.
18.

FAMILY MEMORIES. Family trips, family gatherings at home and away.

MY LEGACY. I would like to be remembered as a fair-minded, hard-working, honest
19.
and ethical person; as one who gave willingly of himself when and where he could make a
meaningful contribution. To my children, I hope to pass the values of honesty, ethical behavior,
lack of prejudices and a strong work ethic.

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�QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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I am conducting an interview with:

Eddie Bornstein

on 2/10/2010 for the JFCS archives.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My father emigrated to the U.S. from Bessarabia, now Moldova, arriving in January, 1921. He came
with his brother who was two years older. They came to Louisville because their aunt had emigrated
here in 1906. She came because her uncle Jacob Pinchas Bornstein (was Gorenstein) had settled in
Louisville about 1890. My father and his brother came in the wake of the Bolshevik revolution which
created great turmoil in their homeland.
My mother’s mother and her grandmother emigrated from the town of Brody in 1892. Brody is now in
Ukraine, but was then at the far eastern border of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Brody at that time
had a large Jewish population, as many Jews had come there from Russia at various times during the
19th century due to increases in anti-Semitism in Russia. Because it was so close to the border, it
was a fairly easy refuge.
My maternal grandfather was also from Brody, and I think he emigrated about the same time. He
became a naturalized citizen of the U.S. in 1894. I still have his Naturalization Certificate. They
emigrated because conditions in their homeland were not good, and the prospect of the Goldene
Medina lured them as it did countless others. Also, there were good and bad times for Jews under
the Austro-Hungarian regime, depending on the official attitude at the time. I believe their emigration
may also have been due, in part, to increasing anti-Semitism. I believe they first emigrated to Terre
Haute, Indiana because some of their relatives from Brody had already settled there. I am not sure
why they then moved Louisville, but possibly they were following other relatives.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My mother was Sarah Moss, born in Louisville in 1909. Her father’s name was originally Moscisker,
and her mother’s maiden name was Hirsch.
My father was Moshe David Gorenstein, born in Bender, Bessarabia in 1902. He took the name
Maurice Bornstein when he came to Louisville. His great-uncle, Jacob Pinchas, had already taken
the name Bornstein. I don’t know why.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
I was born in Louisville on September 25, 1941. My parents spoke English primarily, but often
conversed in Yiddish when their children were not to know what they were talking about.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?

�When I was bom we lived at 109 Hughes Court, near the corner of First and Brandeis Streets, very
near to U of L. When I was five, we moved to the Highlands. I have one brother, Alan who is 7-1/2
hears my senior. We had no extended family members living in our house.
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
I was bom here.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
I have very little memory of my first neighborhood (until I was five) except that I know we had several
Jewish neighbors - the Shensons, the Moscowitzes, the Baers and a Snyder family. Nearby were
the Ginsburgs on Brandeis, and a large number of Jewish families on First Street, Brandeis, Avery
Court and the neighborhood to the north between First and Second Streets.
When we moved to the Highlands in 1947, there were several Jewish families in our neighborhood,
particularly on Village drive. During my teens, we had no less than 30 Jewish teenagers within a very
few blocks.
I walked to Belknap Elementary School, beginning in second grade. I rode my bike to Highland
Junior High and carpooled to Atherton High School.
' attended Sunday school at Adath Jeshurun at Brook and College Streets through confirmation. I
was either driven or I took the bus, for both religious school and Shabbat services, until I was in high
school. There was a grocery store and drug store within three blocks of my home.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
I was not born until 1941, but my mother and older brother went to New York to stay with my aunt and
uncle during the 1937 flood. My father stayed in Louisville to help with the flood relief effort.
8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?
Travel was by bus or by car during my youth. Trips included a tour of the west when I was 14, and
other trips to Florida and Chicago.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
My father was a member of the Board of Trustees at Adath Jeshurun in the mid-1950s. My greatuncle, Leon Goldes, was shammas at Anshei Sfard in the 1950s.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?

�In my home we had seders on Passover both nights, and often, though not always, lit candles, ate
challah and drank wine on Shabbat. We observed the High Holy Days regularly, attending services
and fasting for Yom Kippur.
11. Did you attend Sunday school or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
I attended religious school at Anshei Sfard (1st grade) and then at Adath Jeshurun from 2nd grade
through confirmation in 1956. I celebrated my Bar Mitzvah at Adath Jeshurun in 1954.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
I hold bachelor’s and master’s degrees in electrical engineering and a law degree. I have been
practicing law for 25 years after earlier careers in electrical contracting and engineering.
13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
I met my wife, Marsha Perelmuter, in 1961 at a college fraternity party at U of L. We were married in
1965 at Adath Jeshurun. We have two daughters, Lisa and Michelle, and a son, Robert.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
I have been a member of the Board of Trustees of Congregation Adath Jeshurun since 1978, was
treasurer 1992-1994 and president 1994-1996. I have been chair or co-chair of the Renovation
Committee since 2003. My wife, Marsha, has been active at the Jewish Community Center as a
volunteer for many years, and later as an employee in various capacities for 25 years. My son,
Robert, is actively involved with JCL.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
NA
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
To my knowledge, my family was not affected by World War I. During World War II, my father had to
close his business for two years because he was unable to acquire materials necessary for electrical
contracting work. During that period, he worked as an inspector at Jeff Boat for the construction of
landing craft (LSTs) for the Armed Forces. My daughter, Lisa, was living in Israel in 1991 during the
Gulf War, and was issued a gas mask in the event of an attack by Iraq.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Passover seders at the home of my great-aunt and great-uncle when I was a child. Listening to Koi
Nidre on Erev Yom Kippur. Reading Torah. Although I was largely detached from religious activities

�in my twenties and thirties, I did attend services regularly after my father’s death (I was then 31) for
kaddish. Since I joined the Board of Trustees of Adath Jeshurun in 1978, my synagogue involvement
and religious observance has increased, particularly after the Bat Mitzvah of my oldest daughter in
1980. It is difficult to articulate the effect religion has had on my life, except to say that my belief has
grown through the years and has been a source of strength and comfort in times of joy, grief and
stress.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
My interests include my wife of 44 years, my children and grandchildren, reading, wood working and
community involvement, particularly at Adath Jeshurun.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
Family trips, family gatherings at home and away.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
I would like to be remembered as a fair-minded, hard-working, honest and ethical person; as one who
gave willingly of himself when and where he could make a meaningful contribution. To my children, I
hope to pass on the values of honesty, ethical behavior, lack of prejudices and a strong work ethic.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. lam
Helene D. Banks
v, I am conducting an interview
with Edith Rubin
for the JFVS archives
on
September 19, 2002.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

We came to the United States in 1939 because we were escaping the Nazis.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My mother, Elizabeth Schimmel, was bom in a small town in Texas. My grandfather,
who was bom in the United States, visited Hungary in Europe, where he met my
grandmother. They married, and he brought her back to the United States, but
ultimately they returned to Europe and settled in Frankfurt, Germany.
My father, Max Schimmel, was bom in Germany.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?

I was bom on January 15, 1929 in Frankfurt, Germany. I was an only child and lived
with my parents in our home there. German was spoken in our home, and only 3 of
us lived there.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

There were only apartment buildings in our neighborhood. We lived in the building
that my father owned. I had a backyard with lilac trees. I don’t recall other Jewish
families living there. I attended a very orthodox Jewish school. We went to temple as
a family. I didn’t go to Sunday school until I came to this country. As an only child, I
was very much protected. The neighborhood was residential. I don’t recall any stores.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

I was not living in Louisville at the time of the flood.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

We traveled quite a bit. My mother and I went to the French Riviera often. We
mostly traveled by train.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

�My father was very active in the Broyer Synagogue in Frankfurt.
9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

Every Jewish holiday and ritual were strictly observed. We kept kosher in our home,
walked to synagogue, and I didn’t even carry a purse on Shabbat.
10.

Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

Religion, Hebrew, and academics were taught at the Broyer School that I attended as
a child in Germany. When I came to the United States when I was 10 years old, I
attended Sunday school in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. I did not have a bat mitzvah, as it was
unheard of at that time.
11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?

I attended grade school and high school in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. When I graduated in
1947 I went to the University of Geneva (Ecole Interpret) for 114 years, and
graduated from there. I intended to be a United Nations translator. However, my
plans changed and my career became my family.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

An invitation from Helen and Bernard Goldstein to come visit in Louisville, brought
me here in May of 1951.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I met my husband, Joe Rubin, shortly before I was to return to New York. I was
introduced to Joe by Bernard Goldstein, and we went out that evening. Three days
later we became engaged to be married. We were married on September 9, 1951 at
the Brewster Hotel on Central Park in New York City. We just celebrated out 51st
wedding anniversary this year. We have two children, out son Ron and out daughter
Paula.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

I am an active member of all of the Jewish women’s organizations in Louisville.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

My parents lost all their personal belongings as well as some family members in the
concentration camps. 75% of my family on my father’s side left at the beginning of
WWII in Europe and went to Israel. We have been emotionally affected by the wars
in Israel, because of the family we have living there. We’ve traveled there a few

�times, and out daughter worked as a journalist in Israel at one time. My mother’s 3
sisters resided in America throughout the war. My mother lost a brother because he
was killed in the concentration camps.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

I believe there is a great power, and I believe someone watches over my family and
me. I believe in G-d. I wore a Mogen David I wasn’t supposed to be wearing under a
slip when the came to search us at the border. We were ordered to strip. Because I
was very young, a guard asked me if I was Jewish and, although my father had
always told me not to lie, I simply asked in German, “What is that?” At that point,
they let me go.
17. What interests do you have?

I love to play bridge and go ballroom dancing. I am in weight training and exercising,
and I’m an avid reader. I also love to travel.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

What stands out the most are the memories of my son’s bar mitzvah, and my
daughter’s bat mitzvah. And even though we had a large celebration for our 40th
wedding anniversary, I’ll never forget out 50th.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

This is a difficult question to answer because we don’t have grandchildren. The one
thing I would like people to say about me is that I was a good person. My purpose in
life has been to take care of my husband, and to rear my children. The values I want
to leave behind my children already have. They are straightforward, honest, and good
kids.
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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
Mr. Edwin Cohen’s information was taken from his own manuscript August 2011.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did
they travel?
Both parents were Louisville, KY natives. My grandparents, Simon and Sarah Handmaker arrived
in New York in the 1870s. They had friends and relatives in Louisville where I was bom.

2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been
other family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My maternal grandparents were Handmakers and Goldstein’s (Moskowitz); my grandmother, Lena
Moskowitz, came from Rumania with her mother, Blema Goldstein (Moskowitz), her sister Clara
Goldstein (later married to a Frank Hyman here in Louisville) and a brother, Sam Goldstein. Jenny
Cohen and David Cohen were on my father’s side. My father was Louis Cohen (Louis was the first
child in the family born in America in 1890) and my mother was Tillie Handmaker. They had four
sons: Max Snyder, Julius, Bernard (my grandfather), and Abe Handmaker. Max Snyder (or
Schneider) took that name instead of Handmaker, as Simon Handmaker was a second husband to
Sarah. The name Fineswaub (or something similar) was mentioned to me by some of the
Handmaker relatives; possibly this was the name of the great-grandfather before Simon.

3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Birth date is August, 1921.

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?

Brothers?

Sisters?

In Louisville, KY, in the Highlands, with my parents, sister and brother.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How
did they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
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6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood?
Did you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops
were in your neighborhood?
We lived in the Highlands and our neighbors were mostly Catholic—there were few Jewish people
there at the time. My parents chose to live in a mixed neighborhood rather than one composed
mainly of Jewish families. This gave me an opportunity to know and enjoy many people of other
faiths and beliefs, and widened my horizons for the rest of my life. We lived in a 2 bedroom/1
bathroom house with a coal furnace. It was my job to shovel coal into the furnace so the house
stayed warm. We had a telephone with a private line. I went to kindergarten at Longfellow
Elementary School.

�7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you
and your loved ones?
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8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use?
Did you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you
use when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special
memories do you have of those trips?
Travel out of town consisted only of visiting friends of my father in Middletown, Ohio, near Cincinnati.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
Religion was simply a duty, an obligation, no questions asked. My parents were members of a
conservative congregation, a “shul.” I did not experience much anti-Semitism in early years, but in
high school I was told that “We Jews are not invited to be members of the Athenaeum Literary
Society for the Halleck Literary Society.” This followed me into college; however, at this point as we
Jews were able to form our own clubs and organizations.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those
occasions?
NA
11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did
you have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in
touch with some of the people that attended Sunday School with you?
I went to Hebrew school three times a week (under duress), attended shul on Saturdays and Sunday
school every Sunday. I was not raised in the orthodox tradition; we did not keep "kosher.” I did have
a bar mitzvah. My father had a tutor teach me the Hebraic chant so I could recite it at services. My
close friend, George (Catholic), would sit on the front porch while I was practicing, learning the
lessons as well as I did, and many years later could still recite some of them.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was
required for your career?
The first two years of my college career were at the University of Louisville in Liberal Arts; in 1942,
after a discussion with a professor (who suggested either accounting or law) I applied for entrance to
law school. In 1942 I enrolled in the U of L School of Law. However, military service interrupted in
1942, and law school had to wait until I returned to civilian life. I registered in law school again, and
went on to get my degree, and worked part-time as did many of the returning GIs.
On graduating from law school, at first I continued to solicit insurance until the business began to
fade, and my wife and I felt that the best thing was for me to return to the practice of law. I was 15-18
years out of school by now and had forgotten much and gained little knowledge of “how to practice” in
the real world. I needed a great deal of help, and the advice of my relatives was to stick to insurance.
They all felt that trying to practice law was difficult.

�I found my guardian angel in the form of Judge Lawrence Grauman, who had just left the Circuit
Court bench and returned to private practice. He told me to come to him at any time with any
questions and he would have the time, and he hoped the expertise, to help me.

13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
During a weekend pass while I was in the army, I came to Louisville and went to the YMHA where I
met Lois Sales. We spent an evening together, and we both knew then we wanted to marry, but it
would have to wait until after the war.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or
synagogue when you were growing up.

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15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
I am an avid bridge player and have on occasion had other bridge players with whom I have played,
and for whose intelligence I had a lot of respect, make uncalled-for remarks about Jews. When I
pointed out that I am a Jew, the answer was, “Well, you know what I mean, you are not that kind.”
As an attorney, I encountered some anti-Semitic comments when I tried to collect an unpaid bill for a
client. I chose not to dignify such remarks but to treat them with contempt. I joined the River Road
Country Club and made many associations and friendships that were important to me. I did not find
any prejudice directed at me; in fact, I was asked to serve on the Board of Directors in the office of
secretary. I also was a member of a golf foursome with some very nice (non-Jewish) guys.
My wife and I had bought our present home in the 6th class city of Cherrywood Village next door to
Dean and Doris Unthank. Dean was active in the affairs of the Village, and asked me if I would
volunteer to act as police judge, knowing I was a law school graduate. Some fairly stringent speeding
and parking bans were in place because there was a Catholic elementary school nearby and
therefore many children on the street. We had no sidewalks. One night a deputy police officer had
arrested some young kids who had parked in a driveway of a young girl, a resident of our city, and
she and her family were concerned as the car did not leave. As it happened, the kids were Jewish
and did not live in our area. I talked to Judge Grauman about the case, and his suggestion was to
de-emphasize the whole matter. No one was hurt, no property damaged and the matter should be
resolved. However, when the case came up, angered parents accused me of anti-Semitism. They
wanted me to rule that this was a wrongful arrest and then it would be a matter of record and a civil
suit against Cherrywood Village could then be brought. The facts presented to me did not indicate
wrongful arrest and I refused their wishes. They left, things cooled off, and no further litigation
ensued. At the end of my six-year term, I declined to serve further.

16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What
are your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
War was declared with Japan after the bombing of Pearl Harbor—no discussion, no debate. Most
young men who were healthy and unmarried were classified 1A and available. Everything but the
war effort was put aside. We were shortly at war also with Germany and Italy. I decided to enlist. By
August, 1942 I was inducted into the service and sent to Camp Walters.

�17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
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18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time
in your life?
I attended Longfellow Elementary in the early years, and junior and senior high school prior to
attending college at UL.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or
your extended family and friends?
Sunday evenings when the whole family gathered in the living room and listened to the popular
shows on the radio.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?

JFCS/smh 02/04/11
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