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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
I am Marcy Rosengarten, I am conducting an interview with: Annette Sagerman for the JFCS
archives on March 8 &amp; March 15, 2010.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when?
Father- Jacob Simon. Escaped Latvia in 1905. Moved to New York, then Cleveland, then moved to Louisville to live with
an uncle. Mother- Selma Kaplan lived in St. Louis. Was engaged to a man who had tuberculosis. Selma's Mother said
that she could not marry him. An uncle (Gold family) lived in Louisville, so Mother moved to Louisville. Met Mr. Simon at
Thanksgiving dinner. He proposed to Selma that night. The Kaplan family approved of him because he was nice to his
Mother and made a nice living. Jacob told Selma that they would have sons, but they had three daughters. They married
July 3, 1917.

2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born?
Father 1890-1943. Mother 1895-1948. Jacob Simon and Eva Kaplan Simon.

3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Annette was born on November 3, 1924. Father was fluent in Yiddish. Mother also spoke Yiddish when they didn't want
the girls to know what they were talking about. They usually spoke English in the home.

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
She lived with her parents and two sisters Lorraine and Selma Jean.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come?
What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? Was there a neighborhood
grocery? Drug store?
They lived in a somewhat Jewish neighborhood at Floyd and St. Catherine Streets. Esther Zegart lived in same duplex.
Then they moved to Hill Street, where there were lots of Jewish families. She walked to Cochran and Englehardt
Schools. Annette went to Louisville Junior High School, then Louisville Girls High School, which is now Manual High
School. Her parents drove her to Sunday School at Adath Jeshurun at Brook and Hill. Rabbi Gittleman was the Rabbi at
the time. Parents owned Simon's, a grocery and meat market, which was located on Preston Street. Rectners and Mr.
Waldman's Drug Stores were also in the neighborhood.

7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and your
loved ones?
Simon's was damaged by the 1937 flood. The Red Cross confiscated their entire stock of food, but paid the family for
everything that they took. Some of the stores were looted . The Simon's watched all the looting, but did not have a phone
to call the police. They lived on the third floor, so they didn't have to move to higher ground. The Red Cross brought lots
of people to stay with them.

8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use when you
traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do you have of
those trips?
Both parents had cars because they delivered groceries from their market. They traveled by car to St. Louis to visit
family.

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Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
Annette's Mother was very involved with Adath Jeshurun's Sisterhood. Father was not as involved... too busy with the
store. But he went to services and Cantor said that he was a "wonderful davener". Annette went to Hebrew School and
Sunday School. She was confirmed in 1939. Every Saturday she would go to Shabbat services, then to lunch at Lerner's
the Kosher deli, then to the movies in downtown Louisville.

�1rLWhat holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
The family observed all of the Jewish holidays.

11. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Did you have a Bar Mitzvah? What are
your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with some of the people that attended
Sunday School with you?
Annette attended Hebrew School and Sunday School. She was confirmed and was the Valedictorian of her class in 1939.

12. What is your educational background? What was your career? Who or what influenced you to
choose your career?
Annette was an English major at University of Louisville; she was a student there for 1-1/2 years. In 1944 at the age of
19, she began working in the Army and Navy Office of the YMHA (Young Men's Hebrew Association, which later became
the Jewish Community Center) at 2nd and Jacob. She served the Fort Knox servicemen who came to Louisville for the
weekend. She also aided the servicemen at Bowman Field and Nichols Hospital. The office then became known as
Armed Service Office. Annette helped organize programs at the bus station, Saturday night dances, Sunday morning
brunches, tea dances, Sunday night suppers, and USO suppers at Fort Knox. Volunteers also helped at all of the
programs. YMHA, Keneseth Israel and Brit Shalom provided dorms for the servicemen. In 1955 YMHA moved to
Dutchman's Lane. In 1966, YMHA took over the USO program. Annette directed the Armed Service Program until the
draft ended in the late 70's. She then became Adult Services Supervisor. She was the Membership Director until 2007.
Then the Hospitality Director until her retirement in 2009.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married? Do you have
children? Grandchildren?
She married David Sagerman at Adath Jeshurun on April 12, 1953. He came to Louisville to work as the Adult Activities
and Camp Director at the JCC. They dated for three years before they became engaged. They were married for 53
years. They did not have any children.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
Annette's Father was not involved in the Jewish community because he was busy at work. Her Mother was involved at
AJ's Sisterhood and Hadassah. Annette was involved at the YMHA, Circle Club and Dramatics Club. She used to enjoy
chasing the boys around the track at the YMHA.. The YMHA was the center of their lives.

15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville?
AJ's Rabbi Gittelman was the Simon family's "human deity". They also loved Rabbi Kling. Annette's sister told her not to
tell anyone how much they loved Sunday School. People would think they were "nerds".

16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
Father was subject to being called up to World War I, but one of his children was born in 1918, so he was deferred. One
of Annette's sisters met her husband while he was stationed at Fort Knox. Parents were proud of Annette's work with the
Armed Forces. They all rolled bandages for the servicemen. As far as the wars in Israel, Mother and sister were involved
with Hadassah. They collected for JNF (Jewish National Fund).

17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
AJ's Rabbi Gittelman was the Simon family's "human deity". They also loved Rabbi Kling. Annette's sister told her not to
tell anyone how much they loved Sunday School. People would think they were "nerds".

1v. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
Annette's family has been her chief interest. She also collects items (i.e. Judaica). She was busy working full-time for 65
years.

�19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
Her favorite family memories were the Jewish holidays. Her Mother had five sisters and everyone came to their home for
dinner. They always welcomed soldiers into their home for the holidays. When Annette's Mother passed away, her aunts
entertained for the holidays, and then Annette took over. A Fort Knox Chaplain spent many holidays with the
Sagermans. He later became a Rabbi and says that he learned how to lead a Seder from David Sagerman. The Rabbi
also said that Annette Sagerman is his role model.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values would you like to
pass on to those you leave behind?
Annette has a total commitment to Judaism. She is a loyal Jew. Her legacy is her nieces, and great nieces, great
nephews and great-great nieces and nephews. She would like them to have the same Jewish experiences that she had.

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�Annette Simon Sagerman passed away on Tuesday, October 27, at the age of 91. A proud Louisvillian
who attended Louisville Girls High School and the University of Louisville, Sagerman began a part-time
job at the Jewish Community Center (formerly the YMHA) when she was 19 years old and went on to
work there full time until her retirement 65 years later. During her tenure at the JCC, she held many
positions, including director of the USO, cultural arts, adult activities, membership and hospitality
departments. She was also one of the original founders of the Jewish Community Center’s Bingo
program, which provided additional resources for the JCC for 29 years.

Affectionately known as “aunt” or “auntie" by many, Sagerman always ensured that the JCC was open,
warm and welcoming to all. She was always ready with a big smile and a word of encouragement.
Sagerman was a walking encyclopedia of Jewish history and the Louisville Jewish community. Until the
end she could regale listeners with accounts of events long past and provide information about friends
and acquaintances she made over the year. She was an avid grammarian and edited the speeches of
the many past presidents and staff members of her beloved JCC. Sixty-hour work weeks were nothing to
her and when she retired, she had accrued six years of unused sick days and 13 years of unused
vacation. She said they would have to carry her out and they did at the young age of 84.
She was preceded in death by the love of her life "her David" Sagerman.

She is survived by her niece and nephew Jaye and Bob Bittner, who cared for her; her great nieces and
nephews Sarah and Jarred Sparber and Jolyn Kramberg and Lane Sparber; her great, great niece
Jordana and great, great nephews Doran, Jacob and Nathan Sparber, who shared hours of pleasure and
unconditional love with their aunt.
The family sends special thank yous to her best friend, Eloise Stemmle, her former caregiver and dear
friend Geraldine Kelly, the fabulous staff of Forrest Springs Health Care Center, and Drs. Gary Fuchs and
Lowell Katz, who cared for her with unconditional love. The family asks that donations go to the Annette
and David Sagerman Special Events Fund at the Jewish Community Center, Congregation Adath
Jeshurun or the WHAS Crusade for Children.

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