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                    <text>QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. lam
with_ _

Helene Ranks

Leonard Wexler

I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives

on__________ April 15, 2002

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country
and when?
My father came to the United States in approximately 1910 from Russia. My mother
was born here in the U.S. Her parents, one sister and one brother also immigrated from
Russia about the same time. They left Russia to escape oppression and came here for
the opportunity in this country.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My father’s name was Bert Wexler. He was born in Russia in or around Kiev. My
mother’s name is Eileen Wexler. She was born in New York City.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
I was born on February 21, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York. English only was spoken in our
home until we moved into my grandparent’s house when I was about 5 years old. From
then on English and Yiddish were spoken. I lived there until I was 17 years old. It was a
two-family house - my aunt, uncle and cousins lived on the second floor. I had no
brothers or sisters.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
Our neighborhood in terms of the economic scale was at the bottom, a working class
neighborhood. It was predominantly Jewish but a fair number of non-Jews, mostly
Italians and Irish also lived there. I did walk to school. I went to Chedar (after school
Hebrew School). There was a little grocery store and a drug store in our area.

6. How were you affected by the 1937 flood?
We weren’t in Louisville at the time of the flood, therefore, we weren’t affected by it.

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
Up until the time I was probably in my teens I believe I never left New York other than an
occasional auto trip to New Jersey or Philadelphia to visit people.

�8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
My family attended synagogue on occasion but were not active members of the
synagogue.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
We observed Pesach very strictly. The house was thoroughly cleaned and the dishes
changed. We also observed the High Holidays. I don’t remember our family observing
other Jewish holidays.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I attended Hebrew school and was Bar Mitzvah.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
My undergraduate degree is from the University of Illinois and I received an MBA from
the University of Chicago. My career, for the most part, was in corporate financial
management.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
1 came to Louisville in 1979 for a new job with Glenmore Distilleries as Controller.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
married? Did you have children?
My wife, Frances, and I were introduced by a mutual friend in Chicago. We were
married in Chicago in 1953. We had three children, Lawrence, Bruce and Donna.

14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?
When I lived in Chicago I had limited involvement in the Jewish community. We always
belonged to a Temple as a family. All three of our children we Bar or Bat Mitzvah. After
moving to Louisville, I became heavily involved with the Jewish Community. I was very
actively involved in my Temple, Federation, Four Courts and Jewish Hospital. I am still
active today serving on various boards.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
I was too young to serve in World War II. My oldest cousin served and was wounded in
Europe. We were not directly affected by he wars in Israel, but we have great concern
and are supporters of the State of Israel.

�16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your
life?
I still, from time to time, think of and remember Seders at my grandparent’s home when
। was about 4 or 5 years old, even before we moved in with them. Religion has provided
me with a moral compass.

17. What interests did you have?
I have a broad range of interests, everything from reading and attending the ballet to
going bicycling riding, playing handball and golf.

18. What are your favorite family memories?
I took a number of trips as a family both when the children were youngsters and even
more recently. These are my fondest memories (all of us being together at the same
time).

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I hope I pass on to my children that they be honest, sincere and true to themselves. I
want to be remembered in whatever fashion people want to remember me. I know a lot
of different people within a number of different circumstances, and I’m sure they will
each remember me in a different way. I really have given no thought to how I will be
remembered.

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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky
40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

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Judy Shapira
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Frank Weisberg

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
1. 1 am
Helene Banks, I am conducting an
interview with
Anne Shapira__________ _____
for the
JFCS archives on
November 12, 2008.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?
My mother was bom in 1894. She was 7 years old when she came to the U.S. in 1901
from Manchester, England because my great grandfather had Bronchitis and could
not stand the climate. They came to New London, Connecticut. It was too close to the
ocean so they moved to Montreal, Canada where they had family and then to
Ottawa,, Ontario, Canada. He was a tailor by profession. He manufactured uniforms
since it was the seat of the government. They did very well.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they bom?
My father was Solomon Hollander and my mother was Esther Hollander. Her maiden
name was Mosell. They were bom in Russia in Kiev (a little town outside Kiev).
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
I was bom March 23, 1914. English was spoken in our home and sometimes Yiddish
when they didn’t want the children to understand what was being spoken about. We
spoke English with hardly any accent. I lived in our house in Ottawa with only my
sister and my parents.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
Our neighborhood in the Highlands was something similar to my old Neighborhood.
We moved into our parent’s new house when I was 4 1/2. It was a brand new house.
There were a few Jews living in the neighborhood and I walked to school. I went to
Sunday school. I went to Sunday school but only for a short time. The weather was
too severe. We went to synagogue and there was a grocery store and a dragstore
nearby.

6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?
I wasn’t living here at the time of the flood.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
We traveled by car. We went to Montreal, and visited an aunt in Newark, New
Jersey. I visited Louisville. We went to Maine to the beach.

�8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?
My family was involved in the synagogue. My grandfather was President of the
synagogue.
9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
Passover was strictly observed. There was not much of a “tado” over Hannukah. We
did get Hannukah Gelt. We did observe the High Holidays and everybody cooked.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I attended religious school for a short time in the fall and spring, but in between “no”.
We attended the Orthodox Synagogue in Ottawa.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
For High School I went to McGill. I graduated with a degree in Economics (BHS).
I did a two year internship as a dietician at Montreal General Hospital. I then worked
as a dietician at Jewish Hospital in Louisville. I was visiting there and met my
husband, Dave.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I came to visit my aunt who was married to Gary Shapira and I met his brother David
Shapira. While visiting here on my second visit I was asked by Dr. David Cohn if I
would like to take the position of dietician at Jewish Hospital (at Floyd and Jacob St).
The hospital couldn’t be accredited without a dietician. That was in 1936.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Do you have children?
I returned to Louisville to visit in 1937 and I became engaged to Dave Shapira in
December of 1937.We were married in Ottawa, Canada on August 9, 1938. We
eventually had two children: Miriam Ostroff, and Harry J. Shapira.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community? Was your whole family
involved?
Dave was very much involved. He was on several committees for the Jewish
Federation and for the Synagogue Kennesseth Israel. I was President of Brandies
University Women’s Club for two terms. I started the first Jewish
here, was
on the Board of National Council of Jewish Women, on the Board of Hassadah and
Sisterhood at Adath Jeshurun. I was on the Jewish Hospital Board and volunteered at
Jewish Hospital for about 12 years in the Intensive Care Wing. I also volunteered for
18 years of Kentucky Arts &amp; Crafts. I recently started a group called Clicking

�Needles to benefit the Susan B. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. My son and
daughter have been very involved in the Jewish Community.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
I remember when Armistice was declared to end the First World War. I was on my
father’s shoulder’s waving a flag. During World War II we were under draft that was
filled by farm boys from Harroldsburg, Kentucky. We had a farm in Harroldsburg
and Dave raised milk cattle during the war. As for the wars in Israel, I couldn’t be
there so I became a Lion of Judah and continue to do what I can to promote it. I have
a great nephew who chose to immigrate to Israel and became an ultra, ultra, religious
person. He is a student and has 7 children. I have a cousin who lives there. She is
married to a Naval Officer in the Israeli Navy. I would like Peace there. I have visited
Israel twice.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
My most spiritual memory is of Passover because I remember we would get so tired.
Grandfather was sitting at the head of the table on a pillow. How long we would have
to sit! We all had to have new clothes and new shoes for Rosh Hashanah and Yom
Kippur. We went to Adath Jeshurun where the women sat upstairs and the men sat
downstairs just like at Kenneseth Israel. Religion was always part of my life. I went
with Jewish friends although we lived among non-Jews.

17. What interests do you have?
My interests lie in the creative arts: painting, knitting, needlepoint, music, cooking,
and book club. I’m interested in my family and their activities. I take pride in the
family business.
18. What are your favorite family memories?
My daughter’s wedding is among my favorite family memories. My son’s and
grandson’s Bar Mitzvah’s and their weddings and the birth of my great
grandchildren. Another favorite memory is Hannukah because we had Uncle George
who had no children, who was like “Santa Claus.” We would all get together for the
Holidays. My mother would invite soldiers.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
The thing I treasure most are my family relationships. I would like to be remembered
for not being judgmental about anyone’s situation in life, their wealth or social status.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. lam _____ Helene D. Banks
/_______ , I am conducting an interview
with
Joe Rubin
y
for the JFVS archives
on
September 19, 2002.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My parents came to this country in 1921, because most of my mother’s family had
come before and settled here. My mother was one of 10 children, 6 sons and 4
daughters, and all of them had come to Louisville before my mother. She was the last
one to come. They all had small stores scattered throughout Louisville.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My father, Robert Rubin, was bom in Poland. My father’s real mane was Rueben
Rebejkov, but his brother Sol, who had come here and settiled in Boston about 10
years earlier, had adopted the name Rubin, and so my father took the same last name,
my mother, Lottie O’Koon Rubin, was also bom in Poland.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?

I was bom on November 7, 1923. Yiddish was the only language spoken in our
home, not even English. When they didn’t want me to understand they spoke Polish
or Russian. We lived at 618 Myrtle Street here in Louisville (adjacent to Central
Park), which was a grocery store with an apartment above. My mother’s parents lived
with us for about a year until they died.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

My uncles and aunts, who all had stores, helped finance my parents’ business. I
walked to school, John Marshall Grade School, at Seventh and Hill Street. I didn’t go
to Sunday school. We belonged to the ultra orthodox congregation known as Agudas
Achim. It had no Sunday school back then. We lived above the grocery that we
owned and the drug store was bout six blocks away (Zegart Drugs). There was not
another Jew in the neighborhood. Being the only Jewish kid in the area and the only
one with any degree of intelligence, I skipped three grades. As a result it was rough
for me because I was two years younger than my classmates. You were in a fight
everyday if you survived.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

�The water stopped two blocks from our store. Eight more uncles, aunts, and cousins,
■ whose homes were under water, moved in with us for about two months. We were
like and island on higher ground. We had plenty of groceries because they were
being delivered by boat.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

My family didn’t really travel. My father had a truck that he used for deliveries, and
also, it served as the family vehicle. Otherwise, I went everywhere on my bicycle. I
rode to my violin lessons on my bike. We were the rich people of the neighborhood.
My parents gave credit for groceries to everyone else on the block. It was during the
depression.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

My father was extremely active in the League for Labor Palestine. My mother often
gave teas for the League, and people would come from all over to upstairs over the
grocery. In 1937, my mother had everyone from the League for tea. Golda Meir was
the honored guest that night. She was a school teacher in Milwaukee at that time.
9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

All the primary Jewish holidays and rituals were observed. A kosher home was kept
and we were observant, but not fanatically. The store was closed only on high
holidays, but did open late the second day of Rosh Hashanah, and late on Yom
Kippur. Later we walked to shul from our home on Park Ave. which was about four
miles.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

I went to Talmud Torah to study Hebrew. I had my bar mitzvah at Agudas Achim,
one of the days my parents closed the store for half a day.
11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?

I attended John Marshall Grade School, Halleck Junior High School, and graduated
from Male High School in 1939.1 enrolled in the University of Louisville in
September 1940, and received a BA degree in 1943 and an LLB (law degree) in
1945.1 went to work for a law firm in July 1945, and opened my own practice in
1954.1 formed a partnership about six years later. I became senior partner of the
firm. My specialty was municipal finance.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I was bom here.

�13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I met my wife Edith very soon before she was to return to New York in May 1951.
She was here, in Louisville, visiting Helen and Bernard Goldstein. After Bernard
introduced us, that evening Edith and I had our first date. Three days later we were
engaged. We were married on September 9, 1951 at the Brewster Hotel on Central
Park in New York City. We have two children, our son Ron and our daughter Paula.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

Before I was married, I belonged to several different Zionist groups. I was president
of a group called Masada. I also belonged to groups at the Jewish Community Center
(AHMY) for young Jewish boys.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

Fortunately, we had no one who was a direct relative (distant cousins) who lost their
lives during WWII. My brother, Sam, was in the army for 4 years during the war. Of
course, we have to this day followed with great concern the situation in Israel. We
created a Charitable Remainder Trust at the Jewish Community Federation, and we
gave generously to support Israel. We’ve been to Israel twice and our daughter lived
there for a time.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

I don’t have any favorite spiritual memories, but I believe someone is watching over
me. I believe there is somebody up there that likes me because Ed9ith was sent to me.
17. What interests do you have?

I play golf and bridge, and I like to read. I keep a list of all the books I have read,
heavy finance and romance. I also like to ravel. As the years add up my interest in
travel has lessened, and I don’t want to travel any place that has shown the antiSemitism that has been shown this year. Naturally, I’m interested in all the marketsstock and bonds and legal phases of them.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

My favorite family memories are the bar mitzvah of my son, and the bat mitzvah of
my daughter, our anniversaries, and our trips to all the other places in the world-the
Far East and the French Riviera.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

�I have no legacy other than being a good husband for Edith and a good and
responsive person in the community.
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Marjorie B. Kohn
President

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President Elect/Treasurer

Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
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Robert Riley
Vice Presidents
Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President

Mitchell Charney
Jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
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Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents
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Arthur Grossman
Shelton R. Weber
Honorary Directors

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish
Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky
40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. lam
Helene D. Banks
v, I am conducting an interview
with Edith Rubin
for the JFVS archives
on
September 19, 2002.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

We came to the United States in 1939 because we were escaping the Nazis.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My mother, Elizabeth Schimmel, was bom in a small town in Texas. My grandfather,
who was bom in the United States, visited Hungary in Europe, where he met my
grandmother. They married, and he brought her back to the United States, but
ultimately they returned to Europe and settled in Frankfurt, Germany.
My father, Max Schimmel, was bom in Germany.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?

I was bom on January 15, 1929 in Frankfurt, Germany. I was an only child and lived
with my parents in our home there. German was spoken in our home, and only 3 of
us lived there.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

There were only apartment buildings in our neighborhood. We lived in the building
that my father owned. I had a backyard with lilac trees. I don’t recall other Jewish
families living there. I attended a very orthodox Jewish school. We went to temple as
a family. I didn’t go to Sunday school until I came to this country. As an only child, I
was very much protected. The neighborhood was residential. I don’t recall any stores.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

I was not living in Louisville at the time of the flood.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

We traveled quite a bit. My mother and I went to the French Riviera often. We
mostly traveled by train.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

�My father was very active in the Broyer Synagogue in Frankfurt.
9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

Every Jewish holiday and ritual were strictly observed. We kept kosher in our home,
walked to synagogue, and I didn’t even carry a purse on Shabbat.
10.

Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

Religion, Hebrew, and academics were taught at the Broyer School that I attended as
a child in Germany. When I came to the United States when I was 10 years old, I
attended Sunday school in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. I did not have a bat mitzvah, as it was
unheard of at that time.
11 .What is your educational background? What was your career?

I attended grade school and high school in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. When I graduated in
1947 I went to the University of Geneva (Ecole Interpret) for 114 years, and
graduated from there. I intended to be a United Nations translator. However, my
plans changed and my career became my family.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

An invitation from Helen and Bernard Goldstein to come visit in Louisville, brought
me here in May of 1951.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I met my husband, Joe Rubin, shortly before I was to return to New York. I was
introduced to Joe by Bernard Goldstein, and we went out that evening. Three days
later we became engaged to be married. We were married on September 9, 1951 at
the Brewster Hotel on Central Park in New York City. We just celebrated out 51st
wedding anniversary this year. We have two children, out son Ron and out daughter
Paula.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

I am an active member of all of the Jewish women’s organizations in Louisville.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

My parents lost all their personal belongings as well as some family members in the
concentration camps. 75% of my family on my father’s side left at the beginning of
WWII in Europe and went to Israel. We have been emotionally affected by the wars
in Israel, because of the family we have living there. We’ve traveled there a few

�times, and out daughter worked as a journalist in Israel at one time. My mother’s 3
sisters resided in America throughout the war. My mother lost a brother because he
was killed in the concentration camps.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

I believe there is a great power, and I believe someone watches over my family and
me. I believe in G-d. I wore a Mogen David I wasn’t supposed to be wearing under a
slip when the came to search us at the border. We were ordered to strip. Because I
was very young, a guard asked me if I was Jewish and, although my father had
always told me not to lie, I simply asked in German, “What is that?” At that point,
they let me go.
17. What interests do you have?

I love to play bridge and go ballroom dancing. I am in weight training and exercising,
and I’m an avid reader. I also love to travel.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

What stands out the most are the memories of my son’s bar mitzvah, and my
daughter’s bat mitzvah. And even though we had a large celebration for our 40th
wedding anniversary, I’ll never forget out 50th.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

This is a difficult question to answer because we don’t have grandchildren. The one
thing I would like people to say about me is that I was a good person. My purpose in
life has been to take care of my husband, and to rear my children. The values I want
to leave behind my children already have. They are straightforward, honest, and good
kids.
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�' Jewish Family &amp; Vocational Service
Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center
Board of Directors

Stephanie Speigel
Executive Director

Marjorie B. Kohn
President

Steven Shapiro
President Elect/Treasurer
Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
Lowell Katz
Robert Riley
Vice Presidents

Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President

Mitchell Charney
Jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents
Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
Arthur Gross man
Shelton R. Weber
Honorary Directors

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish
Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky
40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

Mark Ament
Diane Bennett
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iMatalie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
Simon Fields
Phyllis Florman
Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
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Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O’Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
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Frank Weisberg
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1. I am____ Helene Banks
with-----------Suzanne K. Post
on________ November 7, 2001

I am conducting an interview
.for the JFVS archives

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

Both my parents were bom in the United States of German Jews. My grandparents came in the last
wave of German Jewish immigrants who came to the United States at the turn of the century. I’m
second generation American bom. My grandfathers came to the United States first and they married
German Jewish women who had also immigrated but who they met in the United States.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My mother’s name was Elizabeth Wolff. She was bom in Terre Haute, Indiana in 1910. My
father’s name was Morris Kling. He was bom in Louisville, Kentucky in 1906.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home? Where did
you live then? Who lived in the same house with you -Grandparents? - Uncles? Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?

I was bom on March 19, 1933. Only English was spoken in our home. I lived in our home with
only my parents, my sister Carol and my brother Robert in the Highlands near Bonneycastle. There
was only one other Jewish family in our neighborhood, my uncle’s family. Shortly thereafter we
moved to Strathmoor Village where there were still at that time no other Jews. My parents’ friends
thought they were “nuts” to move there. We had to go about a mile to the grocery and drug stores.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was there a
neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

There were no buses, only trolley cars up to the Wallace Loop, and there were a lot of empty lots.
The area wasn’t fully developed until the late 40’s. There was a patrolman who walked a beat. This
area was considered the county and I took a school bus for eight years. I went to Sunday school at
Brith Shalom on Second and York. Brith Shalom later moved to Maryland and Cowling Avenues.
Even later it merged and became The Temple. The splinter temple became Temple Shalom. I went
to services on Saturday and also went to Hebrew School after services on Saturday.
6. How were you affected by the 1937 flood?

My father’s business was at Seventh &amp; Main at the time of the flood. The water was very high, and
he sent my mother and we three children to Terre Haute by plane. I sat in the co-pilots’ lap and he
gave me animal crackers. I rode to the airport in someone’s car, which had a rumble seat. Father
supposedly went with “the guys” (other men) to work on a dike.

�7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you travel
when you were young? If so, where?
We went regularly by car to Terre Haute two or three times a year to visit my grandparents. The
kids slept on sofas on the floor. It took 6 or 7 hours to make the trip to Terre Haute back then.
These were our vacations. Sometimes we did go to Cincinnati for a day trip by car.
8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
Grandfather was one of the founders of Brith Shalom. Father was President for any number of
terms. As a family we were all involved in the temple. My uncle, Arthur Kling, believed in the
values and culture of Judaism but was not a religiously observant Jew.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
All Jewish holidays were observed within the context of reform Judaism.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

I attended religious school and was confirmed at Brith Shalom.
11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I graduated from the University of California at Berkley and did graduate work in the English
Department at the University of Louisville. Volunteerism was my training ground. I was busy
being a wife, mother, daughter, niece, daughter-in-law, and my full time job was caretaker of all
these relationships. I had a little time to indulge personal interests, which turned out to be pretty
political. I didn’t start working out of the home until my youngest daughter was 10.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I was bom here.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married? Did
you have children?

I met my husband, Ed Post, when I was 13 and he was 17 at an AZA Dance. His sister was a
schoolmate of mine. He had a reputation for being “a brain.” A couple of years later we were CoChairs of the UJA’s Youth Division. He was 19 then and was still in high school. Three years later
we started going together seriously when I started college. We got married two years later in 1953.
I had our first child in 1955, and every other year we had another baby. My children’s names are
David, Steven, Benjamin, Daniel and Rachel.
14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole family
involved?
Even before I got married I was very much involved in the Jewish community. After we were
married we lived in California for a while. When we came back to Louisville in 1957, my husband
was starting his law practice. My mother, “Mrs. Hadassah USA,” manipulated me into starting an
evening group of Hadassah for young Jewish mothers. Ed got very involved in B’nai Brith and the
synagogue. More and More of my passion and energy was expended on the Civil Rights movement.

�As I became more deeply involved in it, I got less involved with the Jewish community. But all the
while, all four boys were Bar Mitzvah and every Friday night we had Shabbat together. We had a
pretty traditional Jewish home. The ACLU was the first organization I joined after returning to
Louisville. Arthur Kling was one of the founding members of the ACLU here in Louisville. I also
joined the League of Women Voters. I have received awards from many social justice
organizations. They include National Council of Jewish Women, Louisville Section, the Urban
League, Kentucky Commission on Human Rights, Jewish Community Center, and National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), and the National Conference for
Community &amp; Justice (NCCJ), and the Thomas L. Hogan Memorial Civil Liberties Award from the
American Civil Liberties Union.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

I was very much affected by World War II. I remember the air raid drills, rationing, and every
holiday we had Jewish GI’s from Ft. Knox come to our home. The wars in Israel did not directly
affect us, but we were aware of what was happening and had great concern. Also, we worked for
the UJA.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
One of my favorite spiritual memories is sitting around the table at Passover at my Grandfather
Kling’s house on South Second Street. It was a big, old, gloomy house, and I would crawl under the
table to ring the bell until they chased me away. The boys Bar Mitzvahs were very moving to me. I
can’t separate my Judaism from my life. It’s infused and enriched my entire life and guided me in
some degree.

17. What interests do you have?

I have always read a lot, always been outdoors as much as possible, and up until this year, I have
loved to garden. I also love movies and the theater.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

Family gatherings, my sons’ Bar Mitzvahs and my father making homemade ice cream on Mother’s
Days which always turned out badly because my mother was too cheap to buy cream instead of half
and half because it was cheaper, are among my favorite family memories. Another is going to the
movies as a family at the Uptown on Bardstown Road and Eastern Parkway. About one-fifth
through the movie, my father would go out to the candy stand in the lobby and buy one Hershey bar
which he would divide among all of us.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values would
you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
My children are my legacy. I want to be remembered as fun to be around. I also hope I will be
remembered as having made a slight difference and also having had a positive impact on others.

JFT/hb 6/6/02

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Marjorie B. Kohn
President
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President Elect/Treasurer
Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
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Vice Presidents
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Ex-officio President

Mitchell Charney
Jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky

40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
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Honorary Directors
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ae Bennett
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Phyllis Florman
Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
Debbie Hyman
Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O’Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
Susan Waterman
Frank Weisberg

Rabbi Avrohom Litvin
Rabbi Stanley Miles
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Rabbi Robert Slosberg
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�Stazamme K (Kling) Post
(Revisited, earlier interview in 2001)

August 18,2014

Suzy’s paternal grandparents were Bem and Rose Kling, of Louisville.
They originated in Germany. Her maternal grandparents were Henry
and Henrietta Wolff of Terre Haute, Indiana. They also were German
immigrants. Henrietta died prior to being told off Suzy’s pending birth.
Henry doted on Suzy and took her to visit in Terre Haute a couple of
times a year. Although Suzy was only four when he died, she still holds
fond memories of this loving and gentle man. She was the first
grandchild in her family.
Her father was Morris Kling (1902-1991) who was a progressive and
liberal-minded businessman whose business practices reflected his
fairness. Morris’s older brother was Arthur Kling who also was a wellknown and respected leader off the community having made his own
mark as a respected civic leader.
Suzy’s mother, Betty (1909-1995) was a very caring mother who
encouraged Suzy’s many activities. Hers was a happy childhood, and
while her father did not do Friday Kiddush, Betty lit the candles each
week and they celebrated Jewish holidays and were members off Temple
Shalom where Suzy and her siblings, twins Robert and Carol, attended
religious school. They were a Reform Jewish family who lived the
American life. Morris was very progressive and supportive and her
mother had the habit of adopting strangers who need help.

Suzy was born in 1933 and attended Melbourne Heights, a county
elementary school, and Atherton High School, which at that time was a
girls’ school. They lived for a while on Maplewood Place and during the
economic depression were able to borrow $8,00® required to buy a
lovely home on Byron. (Quite a bargain in today’s economy.)
Suzy became interested in matters of social conscious at an early age
and her parents encouraged her to do so. She noted that very few of the
other girls her age had any awareness of prejudice. As a matter of fact
even as an adult she was a pioneer in the area of women’s rights and
empowerment before it became popular.
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�In high school she had a group of friends who enjoyed sharing activities
and dating. These included Ed Post, her future husband, and Stuart
Handmaker, Donnie Berman, Irvin Goldstein, Belle Atlas Levy, Enid
Bordorf, Bobbie Robinson, Nancy Ades and Toni Gladstein Goldman.
Her year book at Atherton predicted that “she would be fund raising
for the Urban League in the Fiji Islands” so her passion for justice was
recognized by her peers even then even though they had little concept of
Civil Rights issues.
When she was twenty she married Ed Post (23), who had recently
graduated Law School and accepted a commission in the Navy JudgeAdvocate office and they moved to San Francisco. While Suzy did not
appreciate being a Navy wife, she says that Ed liked it and would have
been willing to remain in service. However, when Ed’s enlistment period
was over, they returned to Louisville. She says twenty was much too
young to get married and they divorced many years later. Ed had
become a successful and well-known trial lawyer, and like many others
in this work, he became obsessed with his work and had little time for a
wife or family.

Morris, Suzy’s Dad, was a friend of a noted jurist, Judge Hugo
Taustine, and arranged for Ed to meet him, where upon Ed was hired.
By this time, they had two of their five children and Ed needed an
income. After three years he was made partner. Sometime after this, the
firm added Jerry (Jerome) Berman. By now, their family was complete.
It included David, Steven, Ben (who still lives in the Louisville area),
Dan and Rachel. Suzy has three grandchildren.

Suzy, still the activist, became involved in civil rights more directly. Due
to the ‘Braden case’, a group known as the KCLU was formed. Suzy
went to meet the leaders of the ACLU in New York and got the local
group declared an affiliate. She was president of the local chapter for
three years and also became a vice president of the national ACLU.
During this time the ACLU took a controversial stand and declared,
“Money is speech” and took a case to the Supreme Court, and won. The
passage of time has proven to be a major mistake and it has since had
disastrous implications for elections.

2

�She resigned from the national board of the ACLU and took a salaried
position as Executive Director of the local chapter for eight years. This
was followed by a position with the Housing Coalition, which originally
was located in St. William Church. While director, she met weekly with
the executive board over breakfast at the Miller’s Cafeteria, next to the
church. She was with this group for 15 years and left when she was 73.
All of the hard work and constant controversy had gotten to be too
much. She has been retired ever since, but still has been known to take
an occasional stand on important issues.

In February 2014, she was honored by the Mayor, Greg Fischer, with
the Freedom Award in honor of Martin Either King celebration. She
was the first Jewish person to receive this prestigious award.
Throughout her life, Suzy has been involved in many controversial
issues. In doing so, she has at one time or another angered some people,
and alienated many others. She had to endure many threats and
unpleasantness as she took her principled stands. Perhaps, because of
this, many in the Jewish community have been hesitant to embrace her
and seek her leadership in matters concerning the local Jewish
community. She continues taking an interest in our community and she
says, “You have to either grow or you die”. Louisville has been most
fortunate to have Suzy live among us.
Photo, August 18,2014

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. I am______ Helene Banks
with______ Ilse Meyer_____
on_______ October 15, 2001

, I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My brother, Arthur Liechtenstein came to the United States in May 1938. I arrived
two years later in May 1940. My parents remained in Germany.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My parents were Meinhard and Kathe Liechtenstein. My father was bom in
Volkermaren, Germany. My mother’s maiden name was Kathe Frankenthal and she
was bom in Alten Lotheim, Germany.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?

I was bom February 24, 1923. German was spoken in my home. I lived with my
parents, my older brother Arthur and my youngest sister Inge in Volkmarsen,
Germany. My father had a tailor shop upstairs in the house.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

There were other Jewish families one and two blocks away. There were about
twenty other Jewish families near us. I walked to school. We did not have a Sunday
school, but we did have a Hebrew school on Tuesday afternoons. There was a
beautiful little orthodox synagogue, a grocery store and a drug store in our
neighborhood.
6. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

We often went to visit my grandparents by train. We also visited my aunt and my
future husband’s family in Castle, Germany. We used to also take day bicycle trips.
7. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

My father was the leader of the Jewish community. He acted as rabbi and cantor for
all holidays and Shabbat services.

�8. What holidays and rituals were observed?

All Jewish holidays and rituals were strictly observed.
9. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

I studied Hebrew, conversational Hebrew and learned how to write Hebrew. There
was no such thing as confirmation in our community at that time, and I did not
become a Bat Mitzvah although I did have to study just as I were a boy.
10. What is your educational background? What was your career?

In Germany, I got an eighth grade education. I also went to school in Holland. There
I learned a little English, lots of Dutch and conservational Hebrew. When I came to
the United States I went to night school and got my GED. Then I became a
beautician and worked in a meat packing company to pay for my living expenses and
schooling. I was supporting myself. I worked for two years as a beautician and then
bought my own shop. All of this took place in Cleveland, Ohio. In 1955 I got
married, worked for two years, had a baby and sold my shop. After staying home for
three months, I went back to work and worked for fifteen years and then moved to
Wheeling, West Virginia.
11. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

I came to Louisville in 1985 when my husband accepted a position in Louisville.

12. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I knew my husband, Mike Meyer all my life. Our parents knew each other before we
were bom and we grew up together. He came to the United States by himself in 1938
and settled in Green Bay, Wisconsin. He and my brother lived together with family
in Green Bay. He sent me a birthday card in 1955 asking me to answer him but not
to wait for a year to respond. We used to write to each other during the war. His
sister went with my sister and I to Holland when we left Germany. When we had
vacation time I invited him to visit me in Cleveland, which he did with everything he
owned. He arrived in Cleveland on June 23, 1955 and proposed to me just after he
got there. Because he was so handsome, I couldn’t resist and we were married one
month later on July 31, 1955. We had one son, Loren Meyer, who is a pediatrician
and currently lives in Racine, Wisconsin.

�13. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?

We were very involved in the Jewish community of Cleveland. I was president of
our sisterhood, and vice president of education for National Council of Jewish
Women. We worked with the state mental health division going once a week to the
mental health hospital where we would help with patients and hold Sabbath services
for them. In Louisville, I’ve been involved with Hospice; I’ve served on the
Holocaust Steering Committee of the Jewish Federation and have been tutoring for
the last fourteen years at Eliahu Academy. My husband worked for the Jewish
Federation in Cleveland and both he and I were president of the young peoples club
from our synagogue and secretary of the board of trustees of the synagogue both in
Cleveland and Wheeling. Mike was Chairman of the Israel Bonds Committee.
14. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

My father served in WWI. My mother lost her brother and three of her other
brother’s also served in WWI. My husband and brother both served in the U.S.
Army in WWII. My parents and sister were taken in June 1942 to an unknown
destination. I learned just two years ago (1999) that they perished in Midanik.
Another one hundred and twenty extended members of our family perished in the
camps. It has had a major affect on my life, and I truly think that is why I’ve had
such a strong compulsion to do for others. “I lost two cousins in the Wars in Israel,
and as much as I love America, Israel is my home.” The wars have greatly affected
me.
15. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

My favorite spiritual memory is Shabbat and going on a walk with my family. My
father used to awaken us a 5:00 a.m. every Shabbat morning in the summer when the
weather was nice and we would go hiking in the woods. Then he would say, “this is
where you find God also.” Then we would come home, change our clothes and go to
shul. My religion really is my life. When I learned that my parents died, I rejected
my Judaism. In a dream my father said to me,” how can you turn your back on what
we died for.” From then on, my religion has been my life.
16. What interests do you have?

My greatest interest are my grandchildren, friends, and studying (I took college
courses in history, my favorite subject), and am continuing to take the Melton course.
I also enjoy baking, gardening, reading and embroidering.

�17.

What are your favorite family memories?

Aside from the memory, I’ve already mentioned about celebrating Shabbat with my
family, other favorite memories are celebrating my grandparents 50th wedding
anniversary while in Germany, my sons bar mitzvah in Cleveland, our two trips to
Israel and our trip to Israel and Africa with my brother.
18. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I would like to be remembered for my perseverance in my faith. My legacy would be
treat other people like you want to be treated, be honest with yourself and with other
people, and help where help is needed.
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�J Jewish Family &amp; Vocational Service
Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center
Board of Directors

Stephanie Speigel
Execut&lt; e Director

Marjorie B. Kohn
President
Stt/en Shapiro
President Elect/Treasurer
Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
Lov&gt;ell Katz
Robert Riley
Vice Presidents

Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President
Mitchell Charney
jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey V.eiss
Past Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish
Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky

40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS library unless I choose to keep it myself.

Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
Arthur Grossman
Shelton R.Weber
Honorary Directors

Mark Ament
-e Bennett
Berman
j^an Byer
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Natalie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
Simon Fields
Phyllis Florman
Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
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�* Monday, April 28, 2008 ~ 23 Nisan 5768
■ Ilse Meyer, 85, formerly of Louisville, died Saturday, April 26, 2008,
at the Jewish Home in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
lisa was born February 24, 1923, in Volkmarsen, Germany to Meinhard
and Kaethe (Frankenthal) Lichtenstein. She left Germany for Holland on
a Kindertransport in 1938 and came to the United States in April 1940.
Ilse was a strong, giving women who spent hours volunteering in the
Louisville community and especially enjoyed baking and cooking for
others. Ilse was a regular attendee at services and social function at
Congregation Adath Jeshurun. She loved her students at the Eilahu
Academy, where she tutored Hebrew until last month.
Her parents and a dear younger sister, Inge, perished in Sobibor
concentration camp. She is also preceded in death by her brother,
Arthur Lichenstein; and husband, Meinhard.
She is survived by her son, Dr. Loren Meyer (Sandy), of Racine,
Wisconsin, as well as two grandchildren, Monica and Phillip Meyer.
The funeral will be held at 3 p.m. Monday, April 28, 2008 with interment
in Adath Jeshurun Cemetery, 2926 Preston Highway. Visitation will
begin at 1:30 p.m. Monday.
Contributions may be made to the Eliahu Academy, Congregation Adath
Jeshurun or the United States Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C.

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                    <text>QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

1. I am_____ Helene Banks
I am conducting an interview
with_______ Ernie Marx
Iz______ for the JFVS archives
on__________ August 30, 2001___________

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country
and when?
I came to the United States in 1947 with my mother Bertha Steinberger Marx and my
brother Julius Marx. My father, Sigmund Marx perished in Auschwitz in, we believe, in
1943.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My mother was born in Dettelbach, Germany and my father was born in Boetigheim,
Germany.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
I was born on November 8, 1925. German was the language spoken in our home. I was
born in Gelhausen, moved to Rothenburg when I was about eight (8) years old, and
then to Speyer. All of these cities are in Germany. I lived with my mother, father and
brother in the same house.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
Between the ages of 8 to 13 (I remember those years best.), I lived in Speyer, which
was a city of about 50,000 people. About 100 Jewish families lived there. This city was
one of the oldest in Germany dating back to the 11th Century. The Mikvah still exists
and today it is a tourist attraction there. They charged 1 to 2 marks for admission. I did
have to walk to school. I attended school and my father was my teacher. I also went to
synagogue with my family where my father was the rabbi. The grocery store and drug
store were across the street from where we lived.

6. How were you affected by the 1937 flood?
The 1937 flood did not affect me because I wasn’t living in Louisville at the time.

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
We traveled a lot by train. We visited family in Switzerland and Holland, and I went to
summer camp in Switzerland. We also took bicycle excursions.

�8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
As stated earlier, my father was the Rabbi of our synagogue. My mother was also
involved in synagogue social activities and visited the sick.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
Each and every Jewish holiday and ritual were observed.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I attended religious school but was not confirmed or Bar Mitzvah. My Bar Mitzvah did
not take place because it was scheduled to be the week after Kristallnacht (Night of
Broken Glass), and the synagogue had been destroyed. My father and I were taken to
Dachau where we were detained for six (6) weeks and then released.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I attended the Jewish Seminary in Paris, France and two years at Indiana University
where I studied Business. When I came to this country I was a delicatessen clerk.
While I was attending school I worked as a bartender. Then I traveled on the road for a
fancy food importer from 1953 to 1978.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I moved to Louisville, Kentucky in June of 1978 after my divorce from my first wife.
Upon arriving in Louisville, I formed a partnership to operate a fancy food store.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
married?
I met my second wife, Thelma Hammer, in Louisville. We married on May 30, 1982 at
Adath Jeshurun Synagogue here in Louisville. I have two adopted children from my first
marriage.

14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?
In 1983, after my business venture failed, I became Ritual Director at Adath Jeshurun. I
retired from that position in 1999 but have remained active in the synagogue and
throughout the Jewish community. I am a member of the Community Relations Council
and a member of the Jewish Federation Speakers Bureau. My wife and I are both
members of a Chavura Group. I speak and accompany junior and high school groups
and other community groups from the Tri-State area as a volunteer guide to the United
States Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. I’m also involved with federal authorities
when speaking at Hate Crime Seminars. I received the Volunteer of the Year Award in
1996 from the Jewish Federation, the Peace Medal from Trinity High School and two
Day of Remembrance Award from Ft. Knox.

�15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
I would say my family was impacted greatly by the World Wars. My father served in the
German Army and was awarded the Iron Cross in World War I. He died in Auschwitz
(date unknown) during World War II. My mother was interned in Gurs where she had a
stroke and was left for dead. She was liberated by the U.S. Army in 1945, we were
reunited, and we moved together with my brother to the United States in 1947, and we
settled in Indianapolis, Indiana. I have not been directly affected by the wars in Israel,
but am greatly concerned.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your
life?
Due to my upbringing, I have kept and observed my faith as a Conservative Jew. My
religion is an integral part of my life. The most significant spiritual memory in my life is
not being able to become a Bar Mitzvah because of Kristallnacht. One of my fondest
spiritual memories that I still perform today is conducting Seders and services for
nursing homes in Louisville.

17. What interests did you have?
I used to play golf and bowl and was a professional official soccer referee in all Midwest
states for 25 years.

18. What are your favorite family memories?
My father was my idol. My fondest memories are my vacations at my grandparents’
house.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I would like to be remembered for having served the Louisville Jewish Community and
the Louisville Community.

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Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky

40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS library unless I choose to keep it myself.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
am

Helene Banks

, I am conducting an interview with:

Herman Landau

for the

JFCS archives.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My father, who was a “yeshiva bucher,” fled his home to escape conscription into Emperor Franz
Joseph’s Army (Austria-Hungary at the time). He came to the United States in 1898. My mother
followed with my older brother and sister Anne about four years later.

2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?

My father was Ozer Chaim Landau, born in Dikla in the state of Krakow, which after WWI became
part of Poland. My mother, Rebecca Fuhrer Landau, was from Bardiov, which was part of
Czechoslavia after WWI.

3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?

I was born in Louisville, Kentucky on April 12,1911. My parents spoke mostly Yiddish and Polish.
We were spoken to in Yiddish, and we answered back in English. As a result, we never learned to
speak Yiddish

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?
Brothers? Sisters?
I grew up in Louisville in the vicinity of Preston and Walnut Streets (the Jewish Ghetto). Just our
immediate family lived in our house. My family was comprised of my parents, my older brother Jacob
(born in 1894) and sister Anne (born in 1904), both of whom had come to the United States with my
mother, my sister Dora (born in 1904), my brother Israel (born in 1908), myself Herman (born in 1911)
and my youngest brother Joe (born in 1912). The four youngest of us were all born in Louisville. The
concept of grandparents was alien to me. I did have one uncle who lived in Mississippi. He visited in
Louisville once or twice.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?

I was born in Louisville on April 12, 1911.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?

�There were Jews, Italians and Blacks in our neighborhood. I walked to school. Sunday school did
not exist at that time. I did attend Hebrew School after secular school each day. My family went
egularly to synagogue every Friday night, Saturday morning and Saturday afternoon. My family was
very observant. There was a grocery store and a drug store in the neighborhood at that time.

7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
At the time of the 1937 flood I was working for the Courier-Journal. I was living with my parents on
Madison Street, which is now part of the Medical Center. This area was an island and I was able to
walk to Third and Liberty, where the newspaper then was located. There was no electricity and we
wrote our copy under the light of Coleman lanterns. Copy was telegraphed to Lexington, Kentucky,
where the newspaper was being printed and brought back into town by boat. There were a number
of people, flood refugees, in the house all week long. I don’t know how we managed to feed them all,
but we did. Our phone was working and in constant use by people who wanted to make calls to
relatives.

8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?

i was never out of Louisville until I was 16. My first trip was to Washington, D.C. when I was working
on the paper. I was sent there on business. At that time train travel was the only way to get around,
and my family couldn’t afford to travel. It was back in the 1930s. Today we drive most of the time as
a matter of convenience.

9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?

My father was shammas of Beth HaMedrash HaGodol, which merged with another synagogue in the
1920s to form Keneseth Israel. We attended services there regularly.

10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?

All traditional Jewish holidays and rituals were observed by my family.

11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday School with you?

�I went to Hebrew School eight years but left shortly before graduation to go to work. I became a Bar
Mitzvah at Beith HaMedrash HaGodol. It was a small, low-key affair, which was the custom at that
time. There was no such thing as confirmation then.

12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
Upon completing high school (Dupont Manual) I went to work for the Courier-Journal. After I retired I
went to the University of Louisville and got a Bachelor’s degree in 1985. I started my career with the
Courier-Journal as an office boy, and worked my way up to reporter, copy editor, telegraph editor and
makeup editor. I retired October 15, 1975 because of a heart attack. In 50 years at the CourierJournal I held every job in the newsroom at one time or another.

13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?

I met my first wife, Leah Seligman of Nashville, Tennessee through mutual acquaintances. She
became the mother of twin girls, Kay and Rebecca. She died in 1974. A year later I married Helen
New Berman of South Bend, Indiana. I first met Helen when she was a civilian working for the Army
and I was in the service, stationed at Camp Stoneman in California. I was transferred to Texas and
'he returned to South Bend. We had little contact after that. A sports writer from South Bend who
came to work in Louisville was instrumental in bringing us together again and renewing our friendship.
Helen, widowed, was the mother of two daughters and a son.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.

I became active in YMHA, now the Jewish Community Center, about 1930 and was a charter member
of AZA Chapter 107. AZA later became part of the BBYO. Louisville at that time had no Jewish
newspaper and Sol Schulman, a Courier-Journal reporter who taught a post-graduate Sunday school
class at Adath Jeshurun, launched The Spokesman as a class project. He invited me to assist.
About a year later Gabriel M. Cohen, a Herald Post reporter, combined it with the YMHA house
organ, The Chronicler, and took it over as a commercial enterprise. Today it is the National Jewish
Post and Opinion and I was associated with its production until Cohen moved his headquarters to
Indianapolis. My activity at the YMHA led to my becoming a member of its board, on which I served
until 1972. I was also active in Bnai Brith which then was a strong organization. I also served on the
board of the Bureau of Jewish Education and later on the Shalom board. For many years I wrote
United Jewish Campaign material and became a member of the board of the Jewish Community
Federation of Louisville. I helped the Federation launch the Community Newspaper and at times I
served as its editor. I spent three years researching and writing “Adath Louisville,” a history of
Louisville’s Jewish community. It was published about 1980. I received the YMHA Volunteer of the
/ear Award in 1959. I received the first Volunteer of the Year Award in 1991. I was B’nai Brith
Person of the Year in 1997.

�15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
NA

16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
I was drafted in 1042 into the U.S. Army in World War II. The wars in Israel haven’t directly affected
me except for my concern for the Jewish people living there.

17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
NA

18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?

' am interested in reading, travel and good music..

19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?

My fondest memories are of being close to my two brothers closest to me in age and Friday night
suppers with my family.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
I would like to be remembered as an ethical person who strived for the betterment of the Jewish
community and all mankind. My book, “Adath Louisville,” is my legacy to Louisville.

�QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORY
1. I am
Helene Banks______ I
I am conducting an interview
with______ Herman Landau________for the JFVS archives
on________ November 6, 2001_______

2. Can you toll me how and why your family originally came to this country
and when?
My father, who was a “yeshiva bucher”, fled his home to escape conscription into
Emperor Franz Joseph’s Army (Austria-Hungary at the time). He came to the United
States in 1898. My mother followed with my older brother and sister Anne about four
years later.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My father was Ozer Chaim Landau, born in Dikla in the state of Krakow, which after
World War I became part of Poland. My mother, Rebecca Fuhrer Landau, was from
Bardiov, which was part of Czechoslovakia after World War I.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with youGrandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
I was born in Louisville, Kentucky on April 12, 1911. My parents spoke mostly Yiddish
and Polish. We were spoken to in Yiddish, and we answered back in English. As a
result, we never learned to speak Yiddish. I grew up in Louisville in the vicinity of
Preston and Walnut Streets (the Jewish Ghetto). Just our immediate family lived in our
house. My family was comprised of my parents, my older brother Jacob (born in 1894)
and sister Anne (born in 1904), (both of whom had come to the United States with my
mother), my sister Dora (born in 1904), my brother Israel (born 1908), myself Herman
(born 1911) and my youngest brother Joe (born 1912). The four youngest of us were
all born in Louisville. The concept of grandparents was alien to me. I did have one
uncle who lived in Mississippi. He visited in Louisville once or twice.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
There were Jews, Italians and Blacks in our neighborhood. I walked to school. Sunday
school did not exist at that time. I did attend Hebrew School after secular school each
day. My family went regularly to synagogue every Friday night, Saturday morning and
Saturday afternoon. My family was very observant. There were a grocery store and a
drug store in the neighborhood at that time.

�6. How were you affected by the 1937 flood?
At the time of the 1937 flood I was working for the Courier-Journal. I was living with my
parents on Madison Street, which is now part of the Medical Center. This area was an
island and I was able to walk to Third and Liberty, where the newspaper then was
located. There was no electricity and we wrote our copy under the light of Coleman
lanterns. The copy was telegraphed to Lexington, Kentucky, where the newspaper was
being printed and brought back into town by boat. There were a number of people,
flood refugees, in the house all week long. I don’t know how we managed to feed them
all, but we did. Our phone was working and in constant use by people who wanted to
make calls to relatives.

7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
I was never out of Louisville until I was 16. My first trip was to Washington, D.C. when I
was working on the paper. I was sent there on business. At that time train travel was
the only way to get around, and my family couldn’t afford to travel. It was back in the
1930’s. Today, we drive most of the time as a matter of convenience.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
My father was shammas of Beth HaMedrash HaGodol, which merged with another
synagogue in the 1920s to form Keneseth Israel. We attended services there regularly.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
All traditional Jewish holidays and rituals were observed by my family.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I went to Hebrew school eight years but left shortly before graduation to go to work.. I
became a Bar Mitzvah at Beth HaMedrash HaGodol. It was a small, low-key affair,
which was the custom at that time. There was no such thing as Confirmation then.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
Upon completing high school (Dupont Manual) 1 went to work for the Courier-Journal.
After I retired I went to the University of Louisville and got a Bachelor’s degree in 1985.
I started my career with the Courier-Journal as an office boy, and worked my way up to
reporter, copy editor, telegraph editor and makeup editor. I retired October 15, 1975
because of a heart attack. In 50 years at the Courier-Journal I held every job in the
newsroom at one time or another.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I was born in Louisville on April 12, 1911.

�13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
married? Did you have children?
I met my first wife, Leah Seligman of Nashville Tennessee through mutual
acquaintances. She became the mother of twin girls, Kay and Rebecca She died in
1974. A year later I married Helen New Berman of South Bend, Indiana. I first met
Helen when she was a civilian working for the Army and I was in the service, stationed
at Camp Stoneman in California. I was transferred to Texas and she returned to South
Bend. We had little contact after that. A sports writer from South Bend who came to
work in Louisville was instrumental in bringing us together again and renewing our
friendship. Helen, widowed, was the mother of two daughters and a son.

14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?
I became active in YMHA, now the Jewish Community Center, about 1930 and was a
charter member of AZA Chapter 107. AZA later became part of the BBYO. Louisville
at that time had no Jewish newspaper and Sol Schulman, a Courier-Journal reporter
who taught a post-graduate Sunday school class at Adath Jeshurun, launched The
Spokesman as a class project. He invited me to assist. About a year later Gabriel M.
Cohen, a Herald-Post reporter, combined it with the YMHA house organ, The
Chronicler, and took it over as a commercial enterprise. Today it is the National Jewish
Post and Opinion and I was associated with its production until Cohen moved his
headquarters to Indianapolis. My activity at the YMHA led to my becoming a member
of its board, on which I served until 1972. I was also active in Bnai Brith, which then
was a strong organization. I also served on the board of the Bureau of Jewish
Education and later, on the Shalom Tower board. For many years I wrote United
Jewish Campaign material and became a member of the board of the Jewish
Community Federation of Louisville. I helped the Federation launch the Community
Newspaper and at times I served as its editor. I spent three years researching and
writing “Adath Louisville,” a history of Louisville’s Jewish community. It was published
about 1980. I received the YMHA Volunteer of the Year Award in 1959. I received the
first Volunteer of the Year Award from the Jewish Community Federation in 1991. I was
B’nai Brith Person of the Year on 1997.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
I was drafted in 1942 into the U.S. Army in World War II. The wars in Israel haven’t
directly affected me except for my concern for the Jewish people living there.

16. What are your spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I took being Jewish for granted, but I have always been involved with the Jewish
community and was the volunteer Shammas for Adath Jeshurun for several years.

17. What interests did you have?
I am interested in reading, travel, and good music.

�18. What are your favorite family memories?
My fondest memories are being close to my two brothers closest to me in age and
Friday night suppers with my family.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I would like to be remembered as an ethical person who strived for the betterment of
the Jewish Community and all mankind. My book Adath Louisville is my legacy to
Louisville.

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1. lam Helene Banks. I am conducting an interview with Helen Landau for the
JFCS archives on March 9. 2010.

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally come to this country and
when?
My father came to the United States in 1914 to avoid getting into the
Hungarian army. My mother came in 1916 to join two brother and sisters
because it was better in the United States.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My father, David Neuovitch, was born in Brozeoff (village), Hungary. Malka
Katz, my mother, was born in Bustina, Hungary.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you =
Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts? Brothers? Sisters?
I was born January 3,1920. English and Yiddish were spoken in my home.
If they did not want us to know what they were saying, they spoke
Hungarian. I lived in South Bend, Indiana. I lived in the same house with
my parents, my uncle and aunt, my brother and two cousins.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
There a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
My home was three blocks from the center of town. There were businesses
interspersed with home. Only one other Jewish child lived in our area
through grade school. I walked to school. I went to Sunday School and my
family belonged to the synagogue. My family ran the grocery store in the
neighborhood and there was a drug store.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?
My family and I were not here during the 1937 flood. Therefore, we were
not affected.
7. If you wish to travel, what kind of transportation did you use&gt; Did you
Travel when you were young? If so, where?
When I was young I went to Europe to visit my grandparents. I went by
ship. We went to New York by car to visit relatives. When I was 17 we
drove to California to visit relatives.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
My father was one of the founders of our synagogue in South Bend in 1932.
Certainly, we were very involved.

�9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
We kept kosher. The High Holidays, Passover, Shavuouth, and Succoth were
observed with family and all our friends were Jewish.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
Yes, I attended religious school. I was confirmed but I was not Bat
Mitzvahed.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I graduated from the University of Michigan with a degree in
bacteriology. I worked at the University of Michigan for a year as a
research assistant. A number of years later sometime in the 1970’s, after I
was widowed, I got my Masters Degree from Indiana University in
chemistry. My original career was in biology. Later, after I was widowed,
I taught.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I married Herman Landau in 1975 in South Bend and came to Louisville
with him.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Do you have children?
I met my husband because I was working at an army camp. Herman was
stationed there in 1943 during World War II. We were married in South
Bend in 1975. I have three children, all from my first marriage.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?
My involvement here was through Herman. I belonged to Hadassah,
National Council of Jewish Women, Louisville Section, and the Jewish
Community Center. I also belong to Adath Jeshurun.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars. Wars in Israel?
I had a civil service job with the army in California and left that position
to return to South Bend to help my parents in their business in 1943.
Emotionally, Herman and I were affected by the wars in Israel and we
supported Israel.
16. What are your favorite memories? How did religion affect your life?
Religion was always a very important part of my life. Even when I went
to college I dated only Jewish boys. I am not a spiritual person.

17. What interests do you have?
I am interest in politics, the news, sports, bridge and eating out.

�18. What are your favorite family memories?
Celebrating Jewish holidays and being with my family.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
Would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I would like to be remembered as having lived my life to the fullest, that
I was a positive person. I would like to pass to those I leave behind the
advice to be yourself and to be responsible for yourself.

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                    <text>QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
1. I am
Helene Banks_______ / I am conducting an interview
with______ Martin Z Kaplan \/ for the JFVS archives
on________ November 6, 2001________

2. Can you tell me how and why your family came to this country and when?
I believe my parents came to the United States around 1904. My father’s family settled
in Cincinnati, and my mother’s family was in Louisville. My father came to Louisville
where he met and married my mother.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My father’s name was Julius Kaplan Benjamin. His father, born in Russia, was a Kohan
and the name Kaplan was derived from Kohan. My mother’s name was Minnie Epstein
Kaplan. She was born in Lithuania, part of Russia.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
I was born on August 9, 1917. Yiddish and English, mostly English, were spoken in my
home. I lived in Louisville on Kentucky Street with my parents and my three brothers,
Joe, Murrell, and Robert. I later had another brother, Ben, and a sister, Birdie Mae. No
one else lived with us in our home.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was there
a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
There were other Jewish families in the neighborhood. Two aunts lived in our
backcourt. Three other aunts and uncles lived relatively close by. I walked to school. I
attended Hebrew and Sunday school and also went to synagogue with my entire family.
I don’t remember if there was a grocery or drugstore close by. The kosher butcher
shop was fairly far away. Later, the entire family moved to the Highlands into a duplex
on Barringer Avenue. I lived there throughout my teens.

6. How were you affected by the 1937 flood?
During the flood we were on the dry section in the Highlands. I was just out of college
and working at a liquor store. During that time, Chief Rabbi Zarchy and his wife moved
into our house. My father had already passed away in 1929. He died as a result of an
automobile accident in Florida. He developed lung complications and actually died in
Florida.

7. If you wished to travel, what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

�The family had an automobile and we would drive up to Cincinnati. The only other
traveling done was when I went to college.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
The family was involved in Adath Jeshurun Synagogue. My father founded and was
President of the Hebrew School and was extremely philanthropic to many organizations
and charities. My mother was also involved in the synagogue.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
All holidays and rituals were observed.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I attended Hebrew School and was Bar Mitzvah at the age of 12 because my father had
passed away earlier and it was felt I was “already an adult.”

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I graduated from Washington &amp; Lee University in 1936 at the age of 18. I stayed out of
college and worked for one year and then enrolled at the University of Louisville School
of Medicine and graduated in 1941. I interned at the Truro Infirmary in New Orleans in
1941 and 1942. I joined the U. S. Air Corps as a flight surgeon in 1942 and served
until 1946. After my discharge, I took my residency in Pediatrics at the Children’s
Hospital in Louisville until 1948 and then started private practice in 1948.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I was born and raised in Louisville.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
married? Did you have children?
I met my first wife, Lillian Kahn, in 1942. She was a lab technician at Jewish Hospital.
We were married in Louisville in 1943. We had two daughters, Perry Jo (born in 1945)
and Julia (born in 1948). My wife Lillian passed away in June 1958. I then met
Hortense Boriasky in Charleston, West Virginia in the summer of 1959 and we were
married in 1959 in Charleston. We had no children together. She passed away in
October 2000.

14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?
Within the Jewish Community, I served on the Board of JFVS and was instrumental in
starting their fee for services. I was a member of the Jewish Community Center.
Civically, I was on the boards of the Family and Children’s Agency and the Child
Guidance Clinic. I started the Diagnostic Clinic for Retarded Children at the University
of Louisville and developed the Shelter Workshop. The Department of Pediatrics

�became so interested in the Diagnostic Clinic that a children’s neurologist was brought
in and The Child Development Program was started. This program later became The
Weiskoff Children’s Development Center. I was on the Board of Council of Retarded
Children for many years. I was also a member of the National Association of Retarded
Children, and I was honored by the Louisville/Jefferson County Section of the National
Organization of Retarded Children on November 18, 1985. I was also an Associate
Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Louisville Medical School, a member of the
Jefferson County Medical Society and was certified in Pediatrics by the American
Academy of Pediatrics. I retired from private practice in 1987, and in 1989 I moved with
my wife Horty to Siesta Key in Sarasota, Florida. I rescued two people from drowning
in a rip tide in the Gulf of Mexico in 1996, and for this act, at the age of 76, I received
the Carnegie Hero Medal. My brother, Joseph J. Kaplan, was extremely active in every
aspect of the Jewish Community.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? War in Israel?
My brother Murrell was a gastroenterologist during World War II. My brother Robert
also served overseas, and my younger brother Ben was a doctor in the Navy in the
Korean War on a hospital ship. We were not directly involved in the wars in Israel, but
we had great concern and we have been strong supporters of Israel.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your
life?
Celebrating the various Jewish holidays as a family is a favorite spiritual memory.
These gatherings united our family and instilled good moral values in me.

17. What interests did you have?
I was an avid golfer and bridge player. I also enjoyed needlepointing, fishing and
various sports. I wrestled in college and while at Washington &amp; Lee University in 1936,
I was the Southern Conference Wrestling Champion.

18. What are your favorite family memories?
I remember most, after my father passed away, the support that each brother gave to
the next, in meeting their educational, professional and business successes. Another
of my fondest memories is our family reunions and golf tournaments.

19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
My legacies are my pediatric practice in Louisville, Kentucky, my community services,
my philanthropies and my moral philosophies. I want to be remembered for having
stimulated interest in other pediatricians and the community in developing services for
retarded and handicapped children and their parents in dealing with those children. I
would like to be remembered for all these things and for my good moral character.
JFT/hb 6/6/02
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�Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center
Board of Directors
Stephanie Speigel
Executive Director

Marjorie B. Kohn
President
Steven Shapiro
President Elect/Treasurer
Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
Lowell Katz
Robert Riley
Vice Presidents

Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President
Mitchell Charney
Jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
1 do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish

Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky
40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
Arthur Grossman
Shelton R.Weber
Honorary Directors
^ark Ament
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Joan Byer
Howard L. Cantor
Natalie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
Simon Fields
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Ann Friedman
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Rachel Greenberg
Debbie Hyman
Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O’Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
Susan Waterman
Frank Weisberg

Rabbi Avrohom Litvin
Rabbi Stanley Miles
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Rabbi Robert Slosberg
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Date Signed

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�Interview with Martin Z. Kaplan
January 21, 2002
Interviewed by Helene Banks
Page 1

2.

I believe my parents came to the United States around 1904. My father’s family
settled in Cincinnati, and my mother’s family was in Louisville. My father came
to Louisville where he met and married my mother.

3.

My father’s name was Julius Kaplan ben Benjamin. His father, bom in Russia, was
a Kohan and the name Kaplan was derived from Kohan. My mother’s name was
Minnie Epstein Kaplan. She was bom in Lithuania, part of Russia.

4.

I was bom on August 9, 1917. Yiddish and English, mostly English, were spoken
in my home. I lived in Louisville on Kentucky Street with my parents and
my three brothers, Joe, Murrell, and Robert. I later had another brother, Ben,
and a sister, Birdie Mae. No one else lived with us in our home.

5.

There were other Jewish families in he neighborhood. Two aunts lived in our back
court. Three other aunts and uncles lived relatively close by. I walked to school.
I attended Hebrew and Sunday School and also went to synagogue with my entire
family. I don’t remember if there was a grocery or drugstore close by. The kosher
butcher shop was fairly far away. Later, the entire family moved to the Highlands
into a duplex on Barringer Avenue. I lived there throughout my teens.

6.

During the flood we were on the dry section in the Highlands. I was just out of
college and working at a liquor store. During that time, the Chief Rabbi and his
wife moved into our house. My father had already passed away in 1929.
He died as a result of an automobile accident in Florida. He developed lung
complications and actually died in Florida.

7.

The family had an automobile and we would drive up to Cincinnati. The only
other traveling done was when I went to college.

8.

The family was involved in Adath Jeshurun Synagogue. My father founded and
was President of the Hebrew School and was extremely philanthropic to many
organizations and charities. My mother was also involved in the synagogue.

9.

All holidays and rituals were observed.

10.

I attended Hebrew School and was Bar Mitzvahed at the age of 12 because my
father had passed away earlier and it was felt I was “already an adult.”

�Interview with Martin Z. Kaplan, M.D.
January 21, 2002
Page 2

11.

I graduated from Washington &amp; Lee University in 1936 at the age of 18. I stayed
out of college and worked for one year and then enrolled at the University of
Louisville School of Medicine and graduated in 1941. I interned at the Truro
Infirmary in New Orleans in 1941 and 1942. I joined the U. S. Air Corps as a
flight surgeon in 1942 and served until 1946. After my discharge, I took my
residency in Pediatrics at the Children’s Hospital in Louisville until 1948 and then
started private practice in 1948.

12.

I was bom and raised in Louisville.

13.

I met my first wife, Lillian Kahn, in 1942. She was a lab technician at Jewish
Hospital. We were married in Louisville in 1943. We had two daughters. Perry
Jo (bom in 1945) and Juha (born in 1948). My wife Lillian passed away in June
1958. I then met Hortense Boriasky in Charleston, West Virginia in the summer
of 1959 and we were married in 1959 in Charleston. We had no children
together. She passed away in October 2000.

14.

Within the Jewish Community, I served on the Board of JFVS and was instrument­
al in starting their fee for services. I was a member of the Jewish Community
Center. Civically, I was on the boards of the Family and Children’s Agency and
the Child Guidance Clinic. I started the Diagnostic Clinic for Retarded Children
at the University of Louisville and developed the Shelter Workshop. The Depart­
ment of Pediatrics became so interested in the Diagnostic Clinic that a childrens
neurologist was brought in and The Child Development Program was started.
This pogram later became an The Weiskoff Childrens Development Center. I was
on the Board of Council of Retarded Children for many years. I was also a
member of the National Association of Retarded Children, and I was honored by
the Louisville/Jefferson County Section of the National Organization of Retarded
Children on November 18, 1985. I was also an Associate Professor of Pediatrics
at the University of Louisville Medical School, a member of the Jefferson County
Medical Society and was certified in Pediatrics by the American Academy of
Pediatrics. I retired from private practice in 1987, and in 1989 I moved with my
wife Horty to Siesta Key in Sarasota, Florida. I rescued two people from
drowning in a rip tide in the Gulf of Mexico in 1996, and for this act, a the age
of 76,1 received the Carnegie Hero Medal. My brother, Joseph J. Kaplan, was
extremely active in every aspect of the Jewish Community.

�Interview with Martin Z. Kaplan, M.D.
January 21, 2002
Page 3

15.

My brother Murrell was a gastroenterologist during World War II. My brother
Robert also served overseas, and my younger brother Ben was a doctor in the
Navy in the Korean War on a hospital ship. We were not directly involved in the
wars in Israel, but we had great concern and we have been strong supporters of
Israel.

16.

Celebrating the various Jewish holidays as a family is a favorite spiritual memory.
These gatherings united our family and instilled good moral value in me.

17.

I was an avid golfer and bridge player. I also enjoyed needlepointing, fishing
and various sports. I wrestled in college and while at Washington &amp; Lee
University in 1936,1 was the Southern Conference Wrestling Champion.

18.

I remember most, after my father passed away, the support that each brother gave
to the next in meeting their educational, professional and business successes.
Another of my fondest memories is our family reunions and golf tournaments.

19.

My legacies are my pediatric practice in Louisville, Kentucky, my community
services, my philanthropies and my moral philosophies. I want to be remembered
for having stimulated interest in other pediatricians and the community in
developing services for retarded and handicapped children and their parents in
dealing with those children. I would like to be remembered for all these things and
for my good moral character.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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for the JFCS archives on August 4, 2011.

1. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did
they travel?
My grandfather was Barnett Linker. He came from Poland in the 1890s to Cleveland, Ohio where he
learned to make cigars. He walked to Louisville where he settled. Rebecca Solovay, my grandmother,
came to Louisville from Germany. Barnett and Rebecca met and were married here in Louisville by
Justice Louis Brandeis. My other grandfather was Louis Grossman and he came from Germany.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when and why was it changed?
My mother was Ada Sara Linker. My father was Sidney Sideman Grossman. Both were born here in
Louisville. There were no other family names.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
I was born in Louisville on November 22, 1929. Only English was spoken in our home and a little bit of
Yiddish.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? Uncle/Aunts? Brothers? Sisters?
We lived in the Highlands of Louisville. I lived with my brother Arthur and my parents.
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual, experiences with you?
My family was born here.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in your
neighborhood?
We lived on Woodford Place. There was only one other Jewish family and they lived three houses
down. It was a middle-income neighborhood. We walked and rode and I rode my bike to school. I
went to Sunday school at Adath Jeshurun and attended Synagogue there, too. The nearest shopping
was at the Douglas Loop. My mother did most of her shopping in the Haymarket area.
7.

If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time—how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?

The Highlands area was dry during the flood. We took in a family in an extra room (a woman and two
children) from the West End. My father used to go to his business on Sixth Street. It was partially
flooded and, because we were in the tobacco business, we had to watch for break-ins in the
warehouse.

�8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use when you
traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do you have of
those trips?
We used street cars and buses. We also had an automobile and occasionally took trips by car and by
train to Chicago. We took a couple of trips with Grandfather Barnett to Atlantic City. When I was old
enough I drove.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
Barnett Linker was very involved in the synagogue and community. He was the treasurer of the
synagogue for many, many years and was a big supporter of Jewish Hospital. He had no formal
education but was a very bright man. He was one of the men who helped start Lincoln Bank that later
became First National Bank. He was also smart in the stock market. There were four Linker children:
Alvin, Ada Sara, Harry and Kalman. Kalman moved to New York and graduated from Wharton School
of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania. He started a company in New York called Data Digest
which was a forerunner to the Moody Stock Paper. Ada Sara was also involved in community service
in Louisville. Dad went to synagogue on a regular basis. We had a kosher house.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
All holidays and rituals were observed in my house. Mother used to change dishes for Passover. She
always used Kosher meat. All Jewish holidays and celebrations were observed.
11. Did you attend Sunday school or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
I attended Sunday school and Hebrew School, and I was confirmed. I became a Bar Mitzvah in 1942. I
am friendly with some who are still here and I have a lot of memories about those we used to know at
the old synagogue on Brook Street. I’m in touch with a few who are left.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what influenced
you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required for your
career?
I graduated from Male High School and Indiana University with a BSA Degree in Marketing. We were
in the wholesale candy, gift basket and tobacco business. I went into the family business and I was
there all my life.
13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you wanted
to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children? Grandchildren?
I met my mate Phyllis Raab, whose father graduated from University of Louisville Medical School. They
moved to Cleveland. I went to Indiana University and my roommate was Shelton Weber whose cousin
was Phyllis. Shellie convinced Phyllis to come to IU when I was a senior. We became engaged at a
football game at IU. Phyllis flew to Frankfurt en Mien, Germany where I was then stationed in the Air
Force, and we were married on March 14, 1952. We lived in Germany for almost two years and

�traveled constantly. In fact, we were married twice. We had three sons: Larry, Bob and Jay, twelve
grandchildren and one great grandchild on the way.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
I served on our synagogue board for six or seven years, the Board of Jewish Hospital for about 16
years, and Phyllis and I did Heritage Weekends for four or five years. I was involved in civic
organizations. I was heavily involved in Open Housing for the City of Louisville. During Open Housing
we didn’t want publicity so we held all meetings in our home. After such a meeting, one morning we
wakened to find swastikas on our driveway and lawn. I was also Chairman of the Mayor’s City Advisory
Committee under Mayor Kenny Schmeid, and I was heavily involved in bringing many conventions to
Louisville. We brought the Jaycees National Convention in 1963, the largest convention at the time;
brought the National Association of Biscuit and Cracker National Convention; and brought the United
Ostomey Convention to Louisville five years ago.
15. What was your involvement in the non-Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
Anti-Semitism when I was in high school was pretty heavy. I was always involved in ROTC. I headed
up the Crack Armed Drill Team and we won competitions. The military who headed up RO TC that
year were anti-semitic and I graduated as a Sergeant. When I went to IU I got involved with the Air
Force ROTC and I graduated as the Commanding Officer. I purposely came back to Male High School
to lead the military to let them know they made a mistake.
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
My mother was heavily involved in the USO, working for the military during World War II. I went to
Israel in 1980 for the Jaycee European Congress and met a gentleman with the Hagannah who
became a life-long friend. I have major newspapers, including the Courier-Journal, from World War II.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Celebrating seders with my grandparents, conducting my own seders with my own family over the
years. Jewish Hospital was heavily involved with a hospital in St. Petersburg, Russia to upgrade their
hospital. The Goodwill Games were going to be in St. Petersburg and the United States wanted to
assure that the hospital could handle anything that was a problem. Phyllis and I visited the hospital and
took a tour of St. Petersburg. The guide took us to the Jewish Synagogue about a month before
Passover, and we saw them making matzo on open fires and stacking them to the ceiling wrapped in
newspaper. We were at the right place at the right time.

18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now? What
schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in your life?
Our major interest has always been travel and we traveled to 51 countries and made friends all over the
world.
19. What are your favorite family memories—whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?

�A favorite memory was that Phyllis and I were campers and we camped coast to coast with our three
sons—9,600 miles. We visited friends along the way. That is still the favorite memory of our three
sons, ages 16, 14, and 12. Phyllis and I had five exchange students who lived with us for a year each:
one from Yugoslavia, two from Brazil, one from Finland and one from Japan. Three weeks ago when I
visited my son Jay in Florida, the exchange student from Finland was there with his wife and two
daughters.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want to
leave for your children and future generations?
My legacy is that my children are healthy and happy. I want to be remembered for helping to make
things good here in Louisville.

�• Stuart Grossman, 86, died Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at Westport Place. He was
a US Air Force veteran, past president of SPOT distributing company, a current
member of the South Louisville Rotary, SCORE and Congregation Adath
Jeshurun.
Stuart led a life of active community involvement. He was a member of St. George
Masonic Lodge #239, a 33 degree Mason with Scottish Rite, a former director &amp;
disaster emergency response team member for the Red Cross, where he was a 19+
gallon blood donor. He was a former board member of Jewish Hospital, Jewish
Hospital Outpatient Center &amp; The Jewish Hospital Foundation, a member of the
Louisville Jaycees, bringing the 1963 national convention to Louisville, a JCI
World Senator, a delegate to the 1980 &amp; 1986 White House Conference on Small
Business, past chairman of the mayor’s Citizens Advisory committee and a former
Scoutmaster. Stuart was part of the World Ostomy Association where he helped
counsel others, bringing an Ostomate convention to Louisville.
Stuart and his wife, Phyllis, were world travelers, visiting 53 countries. They were
chair people for the Jewish Heritage weekends and welcomed 5 exchange students
into their family. He will be forever remembered as an extraordinary UofL fan, the
one waiving the referee shirt.
He is preceded in death by his parents, Sidney &amp; Ada Sara Grossman; and his wife,
Phyllis Raab Grossman.
He is survived by his sons, Larry (Mary K.), Bob (Sharia) of Colorado Springs, CO
and Jay (Kathy) of Orange City, FL; his brother, Arthur Grossman (Barbara) of
Sarasota, FL; his longtime companion &amp; friend, Bernice Rosenberg Leech; his
sister-in-law, Mara Lai Raab; his brother-in-law, Sandy Raab of Los Angeles, CA;
five exchange students; 12 grandchildren and two great-grandchildren.
Funeral services will be 1:00 p.m. Friday, January 8
th
at Herman Meyer &amp; Son,
1338 Ellison Avenue with burial to follow in Adath Jeshurun Cemetery. Visitation
will begin after 11:30 a.m. Expressions of sympathy may be made to the Sidney &amp;
Ada Sara Grossman Nursing Scholarship Fund at Jewish Hospital or the World
Ostomy Association.

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Subject: In Memoriam — Stuart Grossman
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Date:

Thursday, January 7, 2016 12:34 PM

We regret to inform you of the passing of AJ member

Stuart Grossman
on January 6, 2016
FUNERAL:

SHIVA:

Friday, January 8, 2016
Visitation 11:30 A.M.
Funeral 1:00 P.M.
Herman Meyer &amp; Son
1338 Ellison Avenue
Louisville, KY 40204
Residence of Larry &amp; Mary K. Grossman
3305 Pinehurst Lane
Louisville, KY 40241
Saturday, January 9th
6:30 P.M.-8:30 P.M.
Service at 7:00 P.M.
Sunday, January 10th
6:30 P.M.-8:30 P.M.
Service at 7:00 P.M.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
I am Helene B

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, I am conducting an interview with:

for the JFCS archives on

Helen Goldstein

September 26, 2002______________

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My mother was born in Scranton, Pennsylvania. When she was a young girl her parents moved back
to Hungary. My father came to the United States from Lithuania with his family when he was four or
five months old. My mother returned to the United States with an uncle and settled in Ft. Wayne
where she met and married my father. My parents settled in Ft. Wayne, Indiana because they had
family members there. My father’s family came for freedom and my mother wanted to live in the
United States.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My mother’s name was Rosa Falk. As stated earlier, she was born in Scranton, Pennsylvania. My
father, Lewis Novitsky, was born in Lithuania. He never changed his name, nor did my brothers.

j. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
I was born on March 14, 1917. English and very little Yiddish was spoken in our home.

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/Aunts?
I lived in the house in which my father was Bar Mitvah until I married. I lived there with my parents
and three brothers Byron, Harold and Alfred.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
I came to Louisville in 1939 to make my home with my husband who was a practicing attorney in
Louisville.
6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
. There were a few other Jewish people in our neighborhood. I had both Jewish and gentile friends. I
walked to school. There only one Sunday school. I went to The Temple Sunday school until they got

�a rabbi for the conservative/orthodox synagogue. There was a grocery and a drug store in our
neighborhood.

7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
I didn’t live in Louisville at the time of the flood.

8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?
If we went far, we went on the train. Otherwise, we drove. We were one of the first families in our
neighborhood with a car. It had to be cranked. Cars didn’t have self-starters then. We were the first
family to have a radio and everyone would come to our house to listen to the radio. The radio had a
big horn like the old phonographs. At the age of 14 my father sold coal in the winter and ice in the
summer from a wagon. He became a very successful businessman. We had a summer home at
Lake Wawasee in northern Indiana. It was located between Ft. Wayne and South Bend.

9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
My father was 16 years old when he was treasurer of the shul in Ft. Wayne. His picture was found in
the cornerstone. We also belonged to The Temple because the children had to go to Sunday school.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
Holidays were celebrated at shul.

11. Did you attend Sunday school or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
I attended religious school. There were no Bat Mitzvahs at that time, but I was confirmed at a small
service at the conservative synagogue.

12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
I attended Stephens College in Columbia, Missouri. My parents sent me to this all-girls college
because they were afraid I would become a tomboy like my brothers. I graduated from the University
of Michigan in Ann Arbor in 1939 with a degree in Sociology. I did my field work as a social worker in
Flint, Michigan. Three of us would go by cab to Flint from Ann Arbor for weekly field work. I have two
degrees, an A.A. and a B.A.

�13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
My father was president of KIO (Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio) B’nai Brith. There was an AZA convention
in Ft. Wayne. I was home from school for Christmas vacation and was introduced to Bernard
Goldstein by my father’s friend, Harry Resnick. We corresponded and visited each other both in
Louisville and Ft. Wayne. We married on December 24, 1939 in Ft. Wayne in the synagogue. We
have two children, a daughter, Peppy, and a son, Lee David. Lee is a teacher at the law school at
Harvard, and Peppy is the director of the Children’s Museum in Charlottesville, Virginia.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
Having done social work, I was fast to volunteer. My first venture was at the old YMHA with high
school girls’ clubs as advisor for Bodem and Modern Femmes. I read to ill and young children at the
Children’s Home. I started two B’nai Brith young women’s chapters. I drove women to Ft. Knox
Hospital for the Benevolent Society to work during World War II. I was very active at Congregation
Adath Jeshurun. My husband was president when we were building the place on Woodbourne Ave.
At the same time, I was president of the Sisterhood. The joke was that “Bernard was the only
congregational president sleeping with the Sisterhood president legally.’’ Many years later, I was the
first female officer in any city congregation. I worked to establish Four Courts, then Shalom Towers.
I was a board member of Senior House - now called ElderServe. I chaired Telecare for fifteen years.
I became president of Brandeis Women. I also serve on the board of the National Council of Jewish
Women, Louisville Section, that wonderful organization. I am no longer able to actively volunteer due
to my age and illness.

15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
NA
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
During World War I my father’s brother was gassed and sent home to die. My youngest brother was
in the Navy and then transferred to the Marines during World War IL He was never the same when
he came home. He was drafted right out of high school. My mother lost all her family that was left in
Europe. My father and mother helped sponsor two of my mother’s nieces to come to the United
States after the war. We don’t have family in Israel that we know of, but I continue my concern and
affiliation with them. I have made two trips to Israel.

17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I lived in a gentile environment but everyone always knew I was Jewish and I mixed socially to some
degree. A particularly special memory is the seders at my parent’s house after I married when
everyone was there. I can still see my Dad surrounded by his grandchildren. I remember strings on

�the cupboards to secure anything that wasn’t kosher for Passover. I remember one instance when
my son at a very early age while at the table picked up a wine goblet, put it to this ear and said,
“Hello.” Grandfather old him to “put it down,” and my son answered “wrong number.”

18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
I enjoy adult classes like the ones Rabbi Kling had. The Melton - mini two year course is a delight.
I’m taking the third year. Once a week, my “girl” friends come to my house for bridge. I read a great
deal, enjoy music and Actor’s Theatre. I’m still following college football and basketball.

19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
Wonderful years with family at Wawasee, my sons’ Bar Mitzvahs and my daughter’s Bat Mitzvah;
these are my favorite family memories.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
I think everyone is put on this earth not for themselves, but to help others. I was brought up to know
this. I trust I have done my part to make life better in Louisville, in my country and in the world.

�QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES

Helene B a n k s /
1. I am
Helen Goldstein
with
September 26, 2002.

, I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives on

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally come to this country
and when?
My mother was bom in Scranton, Pennsylvania. When she was a young girl her parents
moved back to Hungary. My father came to the United States from Lithuania with his
family when he was four or five months old. My mother returned to the United States
with an uncle and settled in Ft. Wayne where she met and married my father. My parents
settled in Ft. Wayne, Indiana because they had adot ofrother family members jthere. My
father’s family came for freedom and my mother wanted to live in the United States.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My mother’s name was Rosa Falk. As stated earlier, she was bom in Scranton,
Pennsylvania. My father, Lewis J. Novitsky, was bom in Lithuania. He never changed his
name nor did my brothers.

4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
I was bom on March 14, 1917. English and very little Yiddish was spoken in our home. I
lived in the house in which my father was Bar Mitzvahed until I married. I lived there with
my parents and three brothers Byron, Harold and Alfred.

5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
There were a few other Jew people in our neighborhood. I had both Jewish and Gentile
friends. I walked to school. They only had one Sunday School. I went to the Temple
Sunday School until they got a Rabbi for the Conservative/Orthodox synagogue. There
was a grocery and a drug store in our neighborhood.

6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family.
I didn’t live in Louisville at the time o f the flood.

�If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
If we went far we went on the train. Otherwise we drove. We were one o f the first
families in our neighborhood with a car. It had to be cranked. Cars didn’t have
self-starters then. We were the first family to have a radio and everyone would come to
our house to listen to the radio. The radio had a big horn like the old phonographs. At
the age o f 14 my father sold coal in the winter and ice in the summer from a wagon. He
w a sa very successful businessman. We had a summer home at Lake Wawasee in
Northern Indiana. It was located between Ft. Wayne and South Bend.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
My father was 16 years old when he was Treasurer o f the Shul in ft. Wayne. His picture
was found in the cornerstone. We also belonged to the Temple because the children had
to go to Sunday School. Holidays were celebrated at Shul.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
All o f the Jewish holidays and rituals were observed.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I attended religious school. There were no Bat Mitzvahs, at that time but I was confirmed
at a small service at the Conservative Synagogue.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I attended Stephens College in Columbia, Missouri. My parents sent me to this all girls
college because they were afraid I would become a tomboy like my brothers. I graduated
from the University o f Michigan in Ann Arbor in 1939 with a degree in Sociology. I did
my field work as a social w orker in Flint, Michigan. Three o f us would go by cab to Flint
from Ann Arbor for weekly field work. I had two degrees, an A. A. and a B.A.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I came to Louisville in 1939 to make my home with my husband who was a practicing
attorney in Louisville.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
Did you have children?
My father was President o f KIO (Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio) B ’nai Brith. There was an
AZA convention in Ft. Wayne. I was home from school for Christmas vacation and was
introduced to Bernard Goldstein, by my father’s friend Harry Resnick. We corresponded

�and visited each other both in Louisville and Ft. Wayne. We married on December 24,
1939 in Ft. Wayne in the synagogue. We have two children, a daughter, Peppy, and a son,
Lee David. Lee is a teacher o f the Law School at Harvard, and Peppy is the Director o f
the Children’s Museum in Charlottesville, Virginia.

14. Tell about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your whole
family involved?
Having done social-work, I was fast to volunteer. My first venture was at the old YMHA
with high school girls clubs as advisor for Bodem and M odem Femmes. I read to ill and
young children at the Children’s Home. I started two B ’nai Brith young women’s
chapters. I drove women to Ft. Knox Hospital for the Benevolent Society to work during
World War II. I was very active at Congregation Adath Jeshurun. My husband was
President when we were building the place on Woodbourne Ave. At the same time, I was
President o f the Sisterhood. The joke was that “Bernard was the only congregational
President sleeping with the Sisterhood President legally.” Many years later, I was the first
female officer in any city congregation. I worked to establish Four Courts, then Shalom
Towers. I was a board member o f Senior House - now called ElderServe. Ichaired
Telecare for fifteen years. I became President o f Brandies Women. I also serve on the
board o f Then National Council o f Jewish Women, Louisville Section, that wonderful
organization. I am no longer able to actively volunteer due to my age and illness.

15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
During World War I my father’s brother was gassed and sent home to die. My youngest
brother was in the Navy and then transferred to the Marines during World War IL He was
never the same when he came home. He was drafted right out o f high school. My mother
lost all her family who'wa's left in Europe. My father^^niother helped sponsor two o f my
mother’s nieces to come to the United States after the war. We don’t have family in Israel
that we know of, but I continue my concern and affiliation with them. I have made two
trips to Israel.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect
your life?
I lived in a gentile environment but they always knew I was Jewish and I mixed socially to
some degree. A particularly special memory are the Seders at my parent’s house after I
married when everyone was there. I can still see my Dad surrounded by his grandchildren.
I remember strings on the cupboards to secure anything that wasn’t Kosher for Passover.
I remember one instance when my son, at a very early age, while at the table picked up a
wine goblet, put it to his ear and said, “hello.” Grandfather told him “put it down,” and
my son answered “wrong number.”

�17. What interests do you have?
I enjoy adult classes, like the one Rabbi Kling had. The Melton - mini two year course
was a delight. I ’m taking the third year. Once a week, my “girl” friends come to my
house for bridge. I read a great deal, enjoy music and A ctor’s Theater. I ’m still following
college football and basketball.
18. What are your favorite family memories?
Wonderful years with family at Wawasee, my sons’ Bar Mitzvah and my daughter’s Bat
Mitzvah are my favorite family memories.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
I think everyone is put on this earth not for themselves, but to help others. I was brought
up to know this. I trust I have done my part to make life better in Louisville, in my
country and in the world.

�Louis &amp; Lee Roth Family Center
B o a rd o f D ire c to rs
Stephanie Speigel
Executive Director
Marjorie B. Kohn
President
Steven Shapiro
President Elect/Treasurer
Barbara Goldberg
David Handmaker
Lowell Katz
Robert Riley
Vice Presidents
Gail Pohn
Ex-officio President
Mitchell Charney
jane Goldstein
Robert Levine
Howard Markus
Shirley Markus
Lillian Seligman
Jeffrey Weiss
Past Presidents

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permission to record my life history through the Jewish
Family and Vocational Service, 3587 Dutchmans Lane, Louisville, Kentucky
40205. My story will be kept in the JFVS Library and can be accessed by
interested people. It will be preserved archivally for future generations.

Lewis D. Cole
Alexander Erlen
A rthur Grossman
Shelton R.Weber
Honorary Directors
Mark Ament
Diane Bennett
Ellyn Berman
loan Byer
vard L. Cantor
.alie Davis
Jonathan Dubins
Simon Fields
Phyllis Florman
Ann Friedman
Bob German
Rachel Greenberg
Debbie Hyman
Howard Kaplin
Jay Klempner
Benjamin Levitan
Chuck O'Koon
Jordan Pohn
Suzy Post
Mona Schramko
Judy Shapira
Julie Strull
Susan Waterman
Frank Weisberg
Rabbi Avrohom Litvin
Rabbi Stanley Miles
Rabbi joe Rooks Rapport
Rabbi Gaylia R. Rooks
Rabbi Robert Slosberg
Rabbi Bradley C.Tecktiel

Witness

/

Date Signed

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Association o f Jewish
Family &amp; Children's
Agencies
International Association of
Jewish Vocational Services
Accredited by
Council of Accreditation of Services
for Families and Children, Inc.

Jewish Family &amp; Vocational Service
3587 Dutchmans Lane • Louisville, Kentucky 40205 • (502) 452-6341 • Fax (502) 452-6718
E-mail: jfvs@jfvs.com • Web: www.jfvs.com

�March 14, 1917 - April 5, 2010

i

Helen Novitsky Goldstein, 93, died Monday evening, April 5, 2010.

A native of Ft. Wayne, IN, with three brothers, she was the last surviving
sibling of her generation. Mrs. Goldstein received an AA Degree from
Stephens College in 1937, graduated from the University of Michigan in
1939 with a BA Degree in social work and was a member of the
Honorary Sociology Society and Alpha Kappa Delta. After moving to
Louisville in 1939, she quickly became involved in many organizations.
She was a high school advisor for both Bodem Club and Modern
Femmes. She started the first girl’s B’nai Brith program in Louisville. In
1956 she was president of the Adath Jeshurun Sisterhood and was the
first woman to serve on the board of Congregation Adath Jeshurun. In
1959 she became president of Brandeis Women. Mrs. Goldstein has
served on the boards of: National Council of Jewish Women, Senior
House (now Elderserve), KAOP, Parkside, Four Courts Auxiliary, B’nai
Birth Women and Club 60. In 1998 she was trained for Court Watch,
sponsored by the National Council of Jewish Women - Louisville
section. In 2002 she was a graduate of the Melton Studies program for
adults.
Her husband, Bernard predeceased her.
She is survived by her daughter, Peppy Linden of Charlottesville, VA;
son, Lee Goldstein (Norma Terrin) of Jamaica Plain, MA; and
grandchildren, Eva and Jesse Goldstein.
Her funeral service will be held at 3 p.m. Wednesday, April 7, 2010 at
the funeral home, followed by burial in Adath Jeshurun Cemetery, 2926
Preston Highway. Family and friends may visit at the funeral home
beginning at 2 p.m. Wednesday.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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M artin Glazer

for the J FCS archives on Nov. 16, 2011.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My father came first to New York in the United States and didn’t like it because it was too big and
came to Louisville in 1909 because his uncle was here. My mother already had one child and was
expecting another (my two older sisters). My father stayed here to make money and then go back to
Europe but because of the pogroms in Russia he did not go back. My mother came to the United
States in 1913 with two daughters. They came by train and then by boat.

2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
Tly parents were both born in a little village called Brichan in Russia. It was then part of
BegsarabiaAfter my two sisters there was a little boy born here in Louisville. He lived to be 1-1/2
years old before he died. Then another brother was born in 1916 and I was born in 1924. Glazer has
always been our name.

3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
My birthday is March 2, 1924. My parents spoke Yiddish to themselves and they spoke to me in
broken English.

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/Aunts?
We lived on 7th and Hill Streets. My father had a tailor shop. My parents, brother and sisters lived
there with me.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?

�My father had an uncle here who I never met. Father was a tailor (there were a lot of clothing
nanufacturers here before my mother came). There used to be eight or nine Kosher butchers here in
Louisville. Father used to tell me stories. When he was 15 years old he wanted to go to the United
States. He went with other Jewish people as far as Austria. He ran out of money in Vienna and got a
job working in a bakery but he couldn’t make enough money, so he walked with a pack on his back all
the way home, about 1,000 miles. When he was 18 he had a little factory making peasant clothes.
He was apprenticed by the first tailor he worked for.

6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
Other Jews lived in the neighborhood. There were Jewish stores there; dry goods, grocery and liquor
stores on 7th Street. I walked to school, took the streetcar to 1st &amp; Walnut to Anshei Sfard to Sunday
school and also went to school on a bicycle. Mr. Mueller, Vice President of American Standard was a
frequent customer of my father’s.

7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
The 1937 flood happened when I was 12 years old. We didn’t have water on our street. For three
blocks in every direction we were surrounded by water. Our home was dry because we were higher
than the rest of the area. My brother and two sisters with husbands had to stay with us during the
flood. Across the alley from us there was an empty store and they used that for refugees to sleep.
My sister on Preston and Oak spent the first night moving furniture to a second story from their
apartment on the first floor.

8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?

�I used my bicycle when traveling within city limits. When I was a little older I rode streetcars to go to
Male High School. When my brother got married to a girl from St. Louis, we rode in a car that had
four flat tires on the way. We took a train to visit my mother’s relatives in New York. When I was
about five we went to visit Uncle Chaim in Brooklyn, New York. He was a furrier and was wealthy,
short and fat. I didn’t like him.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
Yes, my parents kept strictly kosher even after my mother died. My father was an original member of
Anshei Sfard. My family was very observant and all holidays were observed. My whole family was
religious.

10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
All holidays were observed. I particularly remember the food my mother prepared for Passover.
Every Sunday I would wake up and smell the chicken and helzel.

11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
I went to Sunday school and had a teacher who was a shochet to prepare me for my Bar Miztvah at
Anshei Sfard. Most of the people who were Bar Mitzvah at that time have now died. The shammas
of the shul was Benny Lewis’ father. I had a party in our house in February or March. Father had an
African American jug band and they played “I’m in the Jailhouse Now.” Rabbi Chevel was my rabbi at
the time.

12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
’ went to high school and then into the Army for four years in World War II. I came out and took
advanced classes under the Gl Bill. I went to college at the University of Louisville and then to

�University of Louisville Law School. I was pretty good in language and chose law. I had to do all the
work for college and law school in four years in order for the Gl Bill to pay for it.

13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
I met Phyllis Levy. Her brother went to school with me but was two years younger. We went to the
Rialto on 4th Street and his sister was with him. He invited me to a party especially to meet Phyllis.
One thing led to another and we married on April 6, 1963. We were married at the Temple by Rabbi
Waller. We had one child named Anne and two grandchildren. My wife Phyllis died in 1993 and I
remarried Delores Gold, who was a widow in 1996. Delores passed away in 2010.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
I used to sing in the Adath Jeshurun choir. After I married Phyllis, her family belonged to Adath
Jeshurun and we started going there. I was a Boy Scout.

15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
I was president of the Optimist Club when I was practicing law. I was a precinct captain. I never ran
for elective office. Most of my offices were appointed. I was Assistant Attorney General for 30 years.
Certain officials were anti-Semitic and it showed when I practiced before them. Also, certain lawyers
were anti-Semitic.

16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
On December 7, 1941 I had gone to Fort Knox to sing in the Glee Club with Male High School.
People were shouting about Pearl Harbor. Three months later on my 18th birthday I volunteered for
+he

Army Air Corps. At 18, at that time I was still a minor and my mother had to sign for me. I flew

PT17 biplanes with an open cockpit. I served in Italy for 1 % years in 1944 and 1945, and I was

�discharged in 1946. I almost volunteered to go to Israel into the Israeli Army to help them. I was in
Law School at the time. The Six-Day War was a major event in history.

17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
Some of my spiritual memories are of Friday night dinners with my family, going to shut on Friday
night and the Oneg Shabbats, and especially Pesach. Religion was a big part of my life.

18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
We used to listen to magic shows on the radio and get magic tricks to perform ourselves. A friend
and I made model planes. Mostly, I enjoy reading. I’m presently reading “An Idiot’s Guide to Books
on Einstein.” I took an Ulpan class at the JCC and I used to belong to B’nai B’rith.

19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?
Favorite family memories include how close we were and also when Ann was a small child and I told
her Bible stories. I also enjoyed courses at U of L taught by Mrs. Naamani who taught Modern
Hebrew.

20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
I hope I leave a legacy of being a decent man and that I taught my child and grandchildren the value
of something other than money. “If I am not for myself, who will be for me, but if I’m only for myself,
what am I and why?” This is a translated saying from Hebrew by Rabbi Hillel.

�Martin Glazer, 93, passed away April 27, 2017 at Westport Place Health Campus.
Martin had a long and distinguished career in Frankfort as assistant attorney general for
the Commonwealth of Kentucky. He also worked as a hearing officer for a number of local
agencies, including the Board of Medical Licensure, the Board of Nursing, and the Board of
Realtors. He was a veteran of World War II, having served in the army air corps. Martin was a
member of Congregation Adath Jeshurun, the Kentucky Bar Association, and the Louisville and
Jefferson County Bar Associations, and was a graduate of the Brandeis School of Law at the
University of Louisville.
He was preceded in death by his wives, Phyllis Levy Glazer and Delores Gold Glazer.
Survivors include his daughter, Ann Glazer Niren and her husband Howell Niren, step-sons, Dr.
Andy Gold and his wife, Lauren Schuver, and Rob Gold and his wife Debby Gold. In addition,
he leaves behind grandchildren, Pamela and Amy Niren, and step-grandchildren, Ally and Jenna
Gold, and Hannah, Ellie, and Jacob Gold.
Funeral services will be held on Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 2:00 P.M. at Herman Meyer
and Son, Inc., 1338 Ellison Avenue, with burial to follow at Adath Jeshurun Cemetery.
Visitation at the funeral home will begin at 1 P.M. on Sunday.
The family would like to thank the staff at Westport Place for the care that Martin
received during his stay there. Expressions of sympathy can be made to Congregation Adath
Jeshuran or Temple Shalom in Louisville, Kentucky.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
am Helene B

a n k s , I am conducting an interview with:
JFCS archives on

June 30, 2

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Libby Frank
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for the

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1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did
they travel?
My mother came with her older sister and brother-in-law through England. They came from England.
Two brothers and one sister were in Memphis and one brother was in Montgomery, Alabama.

2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been
other family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My mother, Ida Kiel, was born in Grieva, Latvia. My father, Abraham Rosen, was born in Poland.
Mother’s name was changed when she arrived in the United States. Her name was changed to
Sonia when she was very ill. My father’s name was changed from Rosenlinsky to Rosen.

3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
I was born February 15, 1921, but my birthday was always celebrated on March 15th . My birth
certificate also named me Lucille, but I used the name Libby throughout my life. Yiddish and English
were spoken in our home. Mother sometimes spoke Russian to her brother so the rest of us couldn’t
understand what they were saying.

4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Uncles/Aunts?

Brothers?

Sisters?

We lived on Walnut Street for a time. My mother, father, two sisters (Evelyn and Roselyn), and
sometimes two uncles and a cousin lived with us from time to time. We moved to South Seventh St.
My father died there. He was only thirty-nine years old when he died. My older brother, Louis Kiel,
also died there. I was born here in 1921.

5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How
did they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
I was born here. When we traveled anywhere we traveled by car. No unusual experiences were
related to me.

6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood?
Did you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops
were in your neighborhood?
There were a lot of Jewish and black families in our neighborhood on Walnut St. There was a kosher
butcher there. I walked to school and to Sunday school. I went to Agudas Acheim Synagogue on
12th St. We were near 4th St. so there were all kinds of shops and a black theatre.

7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you
and your loved ones?

�We were living on Madison St. in 1937. We left our house because water was coming up to the
house. We stayed with Mrs. Cohen who had a shoe store on Gray St. At that time, it was me, my
mother, and my two sisters.

8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use?
Did you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you
use when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special
memories do you have of those trips?
We took a streetcar to go anywhere locally after I was 7 years of age. My sister had a car before that
and we would go to Jacobs Park in the car. We would travel to Memphis, Tennessee by car when I
was very young. I had no special memories.

9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
We were members of Keneseth Israel by then and occasionally we would go to Agudas Acheim for
picnics. Yes, my family was very religious.

10, What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
All holidays and rituals were observed by my family. Significant memories are when my synagogue
moved to Floyd and Jacob Streets and my graduation from Sunday school. Also, we would have all
our entire family including uncles and aunts for Passover Seder.

11. Did you attend Sunday School or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did
you have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in
touch with some of the people that attended Sunday School with you?
I attended Sunday school but not Hebrew School. I was confirmed but did not have a Bar/Bat
Mitzvah. I am still in touch with those I went to Sunday school with who are still living. I lost Anne
Bush and Reva Rosenberg.

12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was
required for your career?
I graduated from high school. I was a secretary and clerk. I did many things growing up. I wanted to
be a social worker but couldn’t afford to go to college.

13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
I met Alfred Frank when I was still in high school working for Waterman’s Department Store. There
would be a picnic for store employees every year and Mr. Waterman tried to fix me up with Alfred, but
Alfred wasn’t interested at the time. We started dating just before Alfred went into the Service and
(hen we started writing each other. I stopped writing because I met another young man from Ft.
Knox. War was declared and Alfred had to serve additional time in the military. When he returned he
had been wounded and I wrote him a “get well” letter. By then my two older sisters were gone and
my mother and 1were very close. Alfred brought me candy and begged me not to go visit and marry

�the other young man who had returned home by then. He asked me to call him when I got home to
tell him if he still had a chance. I couldn’t live in New York and leave my mother, family, and Alfred.
We became engaged at my nephew’s Bar Mitzvah on June 2, 1946 and married at the Kentucky
Hotel on ?. I have two children, Judy Shapira born in 1948 and Armand Frank born in 1951. I have
four grandchildren and one great grandchild.
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or
synagogue when you were growing up.
I was active in Young Judea, I was a Junior Hadassah President, President of the Jewish Day
School, Advisor to BBG Girls, Sisterhood at my synagogue, and National Council of Jewish Women,
Louisville Section.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
I was a Girl Scout Leader at the Buechel Baptist Church and Red Cross Captain collecting money in
the non-Jewish Community. I encountered anti-Semitism when we went on our honeymoon. Blacks
and Jews requesting hotel rooms received notices that rooms were available only to white Christian
clientele. Before that, Lake Harrington did accept ladies and girls who were Jewish. In Memphis, TN
whites were not allowed to sit in the back of the bus because it was only for blacks.
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What
are your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
We were strongly affected by World War II because there were only girls in my family. But my
orother-in-law and my future husband were drafted. I also served breakfasts at the JCC to the
soldiers, and went once a week to Ft. Knox to socials. I also was affected very strongly by the wars
in Israel. I was working for DEV Corp, for Israel at the time. I worked also every week in front of the
Kentucky Hotel selling stamps for Bonds. While with Hadassah I worked on a City of Hope project. I
remember World War II being declared. I also remember Kennedy being shot, the astronauts going
into space and the Six Day War in Israel.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I remember Memorial Day at George D. Prentice Elementary School. A big American flag would be
brought out in the school yard. Everyone would march around the flag and drop a flower in the
suspended flag. Religion was an important part of my life. The day I enrolled my daughter Judy into
the Jewish Day School was very meaningful to me. Judy’s picture along with Sharon Perelmuter’s
was in the newspaper because they were the first entrants of the Day School.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time
in your life?
Volunteering was a hobby of mine. I now take classes at University of Louisville and I enjoy
entertainment. I attended George D. Prentice Elementary School, Eastern Junior High, and Louisville
Girls School.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or
your extended family and friends?

�My favorite memories are of becoming a grandmother and a great grandmother, which I became
recently. The same grandson who made me a grandmother has now made me a great grandmother.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you
want to leave for your children and future generations?
I want them to love each other and be supportive of each other. Be charitable and continue
volunteering.

�Libby Rosen Frank
LOUISVILLE - Libby
Rosen Frank, 97, passed
away January 20, 2019
at Baptist Hospital East.
She was born in Louis­
ville and attended Lou­
isville Girls High School.
She w orked for the
Development Corpora­
tion for the State of Is­
rael selling Israeli bonds
for 22 years. Libby had
a passion for learning and audited many classes
at the University of Louisville for more than 15
years
She was a m em ber of Keneseth Israel C on­
gregation, National Council of Jewish Women
and a lifetime m em ber of the Keneseth Israel
Congregation Sisterhood. She was past president
of Junior Hadassah.
She was preceded in death by her husband, of
62 years, Alfred, her parents Ida and Abe Rosen
and her stepfather Abraham Zimmerman. Also,
her sisters, Roselyn Molin and Evelyn Loeser and
her son-in-law, Harry Shapira.
She is survived by her daughter, Judy Shapira;
her son, Armand Frank (Paula); grandchildren,
Dr. Adam Shapira (Debra), Ian Shapira (Caro­
line), Holly Frank (Kevin), Jonathan Frank (Lisa).
Also her great-grandchildren, Lydia, Margot,
Audrey and Hilary Shapira and m any nieces
and nephews.
Funeral services will be held on Wednesday,
January 23,2019 at 2:30 p.m. at Herman Meyer
&amp; Son, Inc., 1338 Ellison Avenue. Visitation starts
at 1:30 p.m. Burial to follow at Keneseth Israel
Cemetery. Expressions o f sym pathy may be
made to the Keneseth Israel Congregation Family
Shabbat Fund.

HERMAN MEYER &amp;SON, INC.
Funeral Directors

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2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My grandmther’s family came to the U.S. in 1914. She married Harry J. Wolf. He
was of German descent. His father came from Janova, Russia because Jews were
being persecuted. He was afraid for his life. He came in 1912 and brought his family
in 1918.

3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My father’s name was Nat (Nauchum) Verschvvoisky. He was bom in Janova. My
mother’s name was Erma Betty Wolff and she was bom in Louisville, KY at the old
Baptist Hospital.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/aunts?
Grandparents?

My birthday is November 24, 1929. German, English, a little Russian, and a little
French were spoken in my home on Speed Avenue where I lived alone with my
parents.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

There were Jews living on the next street from us but not many. I walked to school. I
attended Sunday school at The Temple. There was a nearby grocery store called
Temperman’s on Bardstown Rd. and there was a drugstore at Eastern Pkwy.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

The 1937 flood affected me a lot. My grandmother lived on First &amp; Kentucky. The
flood waters came up onto the front porch. The family joke was that my great
grandmother threatened and said, “Don’t you dare come into my house. Eventually,
the whole family came to our home on Richmond Dr. in the Highlands. All water
was boiled and food was hard to come by. Everyday my dad went to work with
rescue groups to rescue families, &amp; pets. An article appeared in the paper at that time
with a picture showing my father standing in the middle of a boat. He was wearing an
overcoat, hat and a tie. One day he left to work on the rescue crew. The radio at home
was always on and we heard “man stranded in grey hump mobile.” It was my father.
He was a good swimmer.

�7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
We traveled by car and train or a horse. We traveled a lot. We would go to French
Lick. We took a ferry in Michigan and everyone was sick. I was taken to the
wheelhouse of the boat because I was the only one not ill.

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?
My family was involved in Brith Shalom Temple. My father was one of the founders.

9. What holidays and rituals were observed?
We observed the Sabbath and the High Holidays and lit candles.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
Yes, I attended religious schools and I was confirmed at Adath Israel.

11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I graduated from High School and enrolled at the University of Kentucky one day
after I graduated from High School. War veterans were returning home and there was
room for no one who had not returned from war. I also went to the University of
Miami where I met Bobby.

12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I returned to Louisville with my husband in 1951.

13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Do you have children?
I met my husband when I was on Christmas vacation from University o f Kentucky.
There were other Louisvillians living there and some of my friends. They fixed us up
on a blind date. We were married in Louisville, Kentucky on August 26, 1950. We
had three children: Mark, Steven, and Barbara.

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community? Was your whole family
involved?
I worked at the old General Hospital in Psychiatric Care. I was in charge of the Art
Gallery and o f the Art Committee at the Jewish Community Center for many years. I
served on the Board of Brith Shalom. I chaired and worked on the Archive Program
at the University of Louisville (JCC).

�15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

I was affected by the World Wars. In WWII there was gas rationing, food, meat and
travel was limited. We went to Florida during that period and travel was frozen. We
had gone by train and couldn’t get back. My cousin Raymond was in the war and we
were all terrified. Uncle Ivan Wolff was a biochemist. He was deeply involved with
and was sent to the United States b
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and
they wouldn’t let him loose. They wanted to trade him for another man who was
being held. He was threatened to have to work for the Russians (during the cold war)
by turning in his family (his wife and 4 boys) to the Russian authorities. They
released another man and him too.

16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

It gave me deep feeling for generation to generation.
17. What interests do you have?

I am an excellent swimmer and exerciser. Animals, especially horses. I am a people
person. I’m also interested in art, needlepoint, painting and drawing, decorating, and
volunteer work.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

I have too many memories to list. I have wonderful memories of many generations of
people.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I’d like to be remembered as a good wife, mother, grandmother, and great
grandmother. “L’Dor v’ Dor.”

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Betty, passed away Thursday, September 17, 2015. Bom in
Bronner
Louisville, Kentucky on November 24, 1929 she was the daughter of Erma and Nat
Levy. She graduated from Atherton HS and attended the University of Miami in
Florida. It was in Miami where she met and married her husband of 55 years
Robert (Bobby) Bronner.
The most important things in her life were her three children, her grandchildren,
her great grandchildren and her many cousins.
She loved travel, animals, throwing elegant parties, the arts and time with her
friends. She was an active member of the community serving on boards of the
Jewish Community Center and the Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation. She founded
the Robert and Betty Bronner Ellis Island Fund which sent children to learn what it
was like for early immigrants to come to the United States. She supported the Zoo
and every animal organization that ever reached out to her.
She is loved and will be missed by her best friend and companion Zalman
Weinberg, her children Dr. Mark H. Bronner (Susan), Steven R. Bronner (Wendy),
H. Barbara Schwartz (Tom), her 18 grandchildren. Jonathan (Sarah), Meredith
(David), Beth (Will), Liza (Michael), Melissa, Ali, Robert, Michael, John (Kim),
Susan, Lee (Alex), Casey (Alan) six great grandchildren, Ari, Violet, Levi, Maya,
Isaac, Alora, her nephew Dr. Richard S. Lehman (Michelle) and close friend Willie
Edwards.
Special thanks to Dr. Michael Kommor, Dr. Alexis Karageorge and the close
friends whose love, time, support and kindness helped make this last part of her
life a happy unique and special time for her and all of us. The family would also
like to thank Hattie, Juanita, Alvina, Portia and Sheryl for their loving care.
Funeral services will be 1:00 p.m. Sunday, September 20, 2015 at The Temple,
5101 US Hwy 42 with burial to follow in The Temple Cemetery. Visitation will
begin after 11:30 a.m. Expressions of sympathy may be made to The Temple, the
Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation, the Bob and Betty Bronner Ellis Island Fund or
the American Cancer Society.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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Helene Banks
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, I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives
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2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?

My parents and I came to the United States in 1941 from Reckendorf, Germany. We
traveled first to Lisbon, then to Portugal, and lastly to New York. We settled in
Cleveland, Ohio because my Uncle Gus was already there. Also, my brother Milton
Schmidt had arrived in Cleveland in 1936, my brother Walter Schmidt arrived in
1938, and my grandmother Regina Goldschmidt in 1939.1 was 13 years old when I
came to the United States.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?

My parents, Isadore and Jenny Schmidt were both bom in Reckendorf, Germany.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Brothers? Sisters?
Grandparents?
Uncles/aunts?

My birth date is September 3, 1927. German was spoken in our home. I lived in out
house in Reckendorf with my mother, father, two brothers, and grandmother.
5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?

Our neighborhood was a rural village with only six other Jewish families. I walked to
school. Once a week a Jewish teacher came from a nearby town to teach Jewish
history to the eight Jewish children that there were. There was a small grocery but no
drugstore.
6. How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?

Not asked during this interview.
7. If you wished to travel what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?

8. Was your family involved in a synagogue / temple?

My family was involved in the small local synagogue.

�9. What holidays and rituals were observed?

All Jewish holidays and rituals were observed, and both of my brothers had a bar
mitzvah.
10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?

I did not actually attend religious school except what was previously mentioned. My
brothers trained for their Bar Mitzvahs in the town from where the teacher came. I
was confirmed in Cleveland, Ohio when I was 15.
11. What is your educational background? What was your career?

I attended junior and senior high school in Cleveland and graduated from Ohio
University in Athens, Ohio in 1949.1 completed college in 3 years with a BS degree
in Education. I was an elementary school teacher in Cleveland and am still teaching
preschool at Adath Jeshurun Synagogue.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?

My husband was transferred to Louisville, Kentucky in 1969 from Cincinnati, Ohio
where we had lived for 3 years.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Did you have children?

I met my husband Elliot Beskin at Ohio University. We married on June 18, 1950 in
Cleveland. Elliott passed away on August 4. 1983. We had 3 daughters, Carol Klein,
Lynn Rozelman, and Lisa George.
14. Tell about you involvement in the Jewish Community? Was you whole family
involved?

I taught Sunday School ad Adath Jeshurun and 3 years of preschool at the Jewish day
school. My whole family was and is definitely still involved in the Jewish
community.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?

Both of my brothers served in the U.S. army and my husband served in the U.S. army
in Germany at the end of WWII when Jewish prisoners were liberated from the
concentration camps. Survivors of the death camps did not at first trust him because
of his uniform until he spoke with them in Yiddish. WWII in Europe affected me and
my family greatly, because we had to flee Germany in order to survive. Except for
my concern, I have not been directly affected by the wars in Israel.
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?

�Spending the Jewish holidays in synagogue with my family is my favorite spiritual
memory. My religion has always been the basis of my life.
17. What interests do you have?

Teaching my children and my grandchildren has always been my main interest.
18. What are your favorite family memories?

The weddings of my three daughters and the bar and bat mitzvahs of four of my
grandchildren are my favorite memories.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?

I would like to be remembered as a good wife and mother. My daughter Lisa says I
have taught her how to be a good mother to her children. I am leaving a good
reputation as a teacher of many years, especially in the Jewish community.
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�TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I do hereby give my permision to record my life history thugh the Jewish Family
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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORY OF MARGOT BARR

1. I am Helene Banks, I am conducting an interview with Margot Barr for the
JFCS archives on June 29, 2010.
2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and
when?
My family came to the United States in August 1939 from Donauschingen in
Germany. My father and other townsmen were put in jail on Kristalnacht.
We lived in a small community and my father was released from jail when the
family obtained the records necessary to travel. We went to
and stayed there for a couple of days because Dad’s mother and other
relatives lived there. Then we went to Paris for a couple of days. Dad wanted
to stay, but mother said “no.” We were on the last ship to leave in August of
1939. When we arrived in New York, my Dad had 10 cents. Mother’s sister
lived in New York. My uncle, aunt and their two children were with us on the
ship. My aunt was the one who talked my mother into getting papers to be able
to leave when the time came.
3

What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My father’s name was Fred Bensinger and mother’s name was Judith. They were
Both were born in Germany.

4.

What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Sisters?
Grandparents? Uncles/Aunts? Brothers?
I was born September 25, 1929 (I was 9 years old when I came here.). German
and Yiddush were spoken in my home and we had to learn English when we
arrived in the United States. We were separated from our parents for a short time
(our family didn’t have any money) and our mother disapproved of the separation.
Finally, we were all reunited. When we came to Louisville, Dad was given a job
operating an elevator. We lived downtown on Brook Street. My brother, sister,
Mother, Dad and I lived together in the same house. We lived right next to the
school.

5.

What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple? Was
there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
Jews lived everywhere in the neighborhood; on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Streets. The Jews
lived all around us. Yes, I walked to school. Both my brother and sister went to

�Sunday School but I did not. We went to the Temple first. Then we joined Adath
Oral History of Margot Barr
June 29, 2010
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Jeshurun and I then went with my brother and sister.
6.

How did the 1937 flood affect you and your family?
We weren’t here until 1939.

7.

If you wished to travel, what kind of transportation did you use. Did you
travel when you were young. If so, where?
We didn’t travel. I did travel with three other girls by train to Florida when I was
18 or 19.

8.

Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple?
My whole family was involved at Adath Jeshurun..

9.

What holidays and rituals were observed?
All holidays and rituals were observed in our home.

10. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
I did not attend religious school. I was not Confirmed or Bat Mitzvahed.
11. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I finished high school and went to night school to take college courses at the
University of Louisville. I worked in an office as a secretary.
12. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come?
I came with my family in 1939 or 1940.
13. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you married?
Do you have children?
I met my husband in Louisville in 19 ?? . He owned a store on 4 Street. We were
married in Louisville on August 10, 1952. I have three children; Sandy Hammond,
Jennifer Burke and Jeff Barr.

�Oral History of Margot Barr
September 29, 2010
Page 3

14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community? Was your whole family
involved?
My whole family was involved in the Jewish Community. My mother always
helped at the JCC, especially with senior activities. My children have also been
involved.
15. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
Our family was deeply affected by World War II. We had to escape Europe. The
wars in Israel affected me as they did other Jews. I was very distressed and
supported them as we could. We bought Israeli bonds
16. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
My spiritual memories are being together with my family for Jewish holidays and
family celebrations. .My mother always cooked and we would go to services
together.
17.

What interests do you have?
I play bridge, go out with friends to the theater and go to lunch and dinner
Occasionally.

18. What are you favorite family memories?
My best memories are being together with my family and parents.
19. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What values
Would you like to pass on to those you leave behind?
It is important to keep the family as a group and do everything you can to help the
needy. Make sure the family is able to get an education and that everyone has a
good life.

�Margot Barr
Margot Barr, nee Bensinger, was bom in September, 1929, in a small town in Germany,
called Donaueschingen. She was the oldest of three siblings, Ann, and Carl. As
conditions in Germany began to deteriorate her parents realized the urgency of
emigration. She remembers that her father, Fred, was jailed for a time by the Nazis He
had a small retail shop, which was taken from them. These were perilous times for Jews
in Germany, and eventually all of Europe.
Her mother’s sister and her family also were able to leave Germany and they were the
only other family members who escaped, those remaining all eventually perished. A
cousin in Chicago was a sponsor and helped the family get the required papers for
emigration from Germany. At one point they even tried to get to South America but that
didn’t work out and then the visa to America finally became available.
When the family was finally allowed to leave, they left with little in the way of
possessions or wealth. They used the last of their funds to pay for the journey and arrived
with little more than the clothes they were wearing. Their boxes of belongings were to be
shipped to them but nothing ever arrived. They first went to France, where a cousin of her
father’s encouraged them to settle there. However, Margot’s mother, Judith, insisted that
they follow their original plans and leave Europe right away, which proved to be the
action that saved the family.
They arrived in New York in August, 1939, just prior to the outbreak of war in Europe in
September. Margot was 10. The family lived in New York a short time before they were
helped by HIAS, which found a place for them in Kansas City. The family was given bus
tickets for their trip. However, when the bus stopped in Louisville, Fred decided that
since they had some relatives here, they would remain in Louisville.
They lived for a while at 944 South Brook Street near Male High. Her mother worked at
a shop across the street from the school and had other part time jobs, which allowed her
to be there when the children came home from school. Her parents attended classes to
learn English and the children picked up English rather easily, as children often do. They
later moved to 954 South Brook to a larger house, which enabled them to take in
boarders. Her sister, Ann Schaffer, now lives in New York. Margot and her brother, Carl,
still reside in Louisville. Margot’s father, Fred, died August, 1979 and Margot’s mother,
Judith, lived independently and enjoyed good health until very late in life and died in her
own home September, 2007 at the age of 103.
Margot recalls that the people of Louisville were helpful, friendly and welcoming and
assisted the family to get settled. She went to Girl’s High but did not attend college. She
met her husband, Larry, who was bom in Dayton, OH and had moved to Louisville from
Huntington, West Virginia to take a job in sales. He was the manager of the Collins stores
on Fourth. They were married in 1951. Margot and Larry moved to Dorothy Ave and
lived there for about five years before moving to a home on Wendell, in the Bowman
Field area. Larry died in February, 2003.

�The Barr’s had three children, Jan, Sandy and Jeff. They were members of Adath
Jeshurun, which Margot said was a welcoming and warm congregation. Her children
attended religious school at AJ and Jeff celebrated his bar mitzvah there. The family
enjoyed occasional travel by auto, seeing many sites in this country while the children
were young.
Margot recalls being busy with her children and home. She was a secretary/receptionist
for Temple Brith Sholom for many years and continued with the congregation when it
merged with Temple Adath Israel, now called The Temple. She recalls the many seders
and other religious observances at home as well as the functions held at Congregation
Adath Jeshurun.
Her daughter, Jan, married Robert Burke and lives in the North Palm Beach area. They
have three children. Daughter Sandy, married Dr. Mark Hammond, a local dentist, and
they have two children. Her son Jeff also lives in Louisville.
Additional family information
Fred Bensinger was the son of Carl and Bertha Bensinger.
Judith Bensinger was the daughter of Isaac and Sophie Schlessinger
Lawrence (Larry) Barr was the son of Samuel and Sophie Barr

Prepared by Irvin Goldstein with additional details by Carl Bensinger.
December, 2011

�Margot, 85, died peacefully on March 22, 2015. She was bom
Barr
in Germany and came to this country with her family as a child. She was the
secretary of The Temple before her retirement. She was a star bridge player
who acquired life master status and an avid Mah Jong player. She was a
member of Congregation Adath Jeshurun, The Temple and the Jewish
Community Center.
She is preceded in death by her loving husband of 51 years, Larry Barr; and
her parents, Fred and Judith Bensinger.
She is survived by her children, Jeff Barr, Jan Burke (Rob) and Sandy Hammond (Mark); her
grandchildren, Jamie Burke, Jeremy Burke, Joshua Burke, Lauren Hammond (Ryan Rosenthal)
and Kenny Hammond (Liz); her great-grandchild, Sophie Hammond; her brother, Carl
Bensinger; her sister, Ann Schaffer (Sam); her cousin, Hans Bensinger; and several nieces,
nephews and cousins.
Funeral services will be 3:00 p.m. Monday, March 23, 2015 at Herman Meyer &amp; Son, 1338
Ellison Avenue with burial to follow in Adath Jeshurun Cemetery. Visitation will begin after
2:00 p.m. Contributions, in her memory, may be made to the Judith Bensinger Fund at the
Jewish Community Center, The Temple or Congregation Adath Jeshurun.

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                    <text>QUESTIONAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
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, I am conducting an interview with:

Helene Banks

for the JFCS archives in 2001.

1. Tell me how and why your family originally came to this country and when? How did they
travel?
My mother was bom in the United States (Philadelphia, PA) but returned to Brussels, Belgium with
her parents and brother Ben (also born in the U.S.) around 1912. Her parents felt there was much
anti-Semitism in U.S. at that time and felt they would live more comfortably in Belgium. My mother
returned to the United States in July 1940 when we were fleeing the Germans in World War II. She
came with me (age 3-1/2) and my sister Simone who was only three weeks old and who was born in
Bordeaux, France, en route to the United States. I was born in Brussels but we had to flee Brussels
because the German occupation had already begun there. My mother had never relinquished her
U.S. citizenship so we, as her children, were able to come to the U.S. with her. My father couldn’t
come at that time because he was not a U.S. citizen, having been bom in Poland. He fled to
Casablanca, finally making it to the United States and rejoining his family in 1941. My mother’s
brothers helped him get to the U.S.
2. Tell me about your parents - their names and where were they born? Have there been other
family names used in the past? Where, when, and why was it changed?
My mother’s name was Lena Halpern. She was born in Philadelphia, PA on May 14, 1907. My
father’s name was Leon Bronstein (later Anglicized to Brownson). He was born in Poland about ten
days after Chanukah in 1908.
3. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
French and English were spoken in our home. When I arrived in the U.S. at age 3, I didn’t know a
word of English - a year later I didn’t know a word of French. We lived in New York City immediately
after arriving in the U.S. When my father rejoined us a year later, we moved to Norfolk, Virginia
where my father accepted a position as a furrier in a well-known department store. Later he opened
his own fur salon and storage vault which in the 50s was billed as the largest fur storage vault in the
South. We lived in a small bungalow in a lovely residential area. When I was 12 years old my
parents built a large brick Colonial home in the Larchmont area of Norfolk. I lived in both these
homes with my three younger sisters, Simone (Mona), Bernice (Bunny), and Rachele Joyce (we
called her Joyce then). No aunts or uncles lived nearby and all four of my grandparents were lost in
the Holocaust.
4. Where did you live as a child? Who lived in the same house with you - Grandparents?
Brothers? Sisters?
Uncles/Aunts?
5. What brought you or your family to Louisville, Kentucky and when did you come? How did
they travel? Did they share any unusual experiences with you?
I came with my former husband who was transferred to Louisville with the Recruiting Service of the
U.S. Airforce. We arrived here on June 9, 1975.

�6. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the neighborhood? Did
you walk to school? Sunday school? Synagogue/Temple? What kind of shops were in
your neighborhood?
There were several other Jewish families in the Ghent area where we lived in our first home. We
walked to school. We were driven to Sunday school at Temple Beth El, our Conservative synagogue.
There were both a grocery and a drug store in this area. We had no Jewish neighbors in the
Larchmont area. I took a bus to high school each day and we had to travel some distance to get to a
grocery or drug store.
7. If you or your family lived in Louisville at the time - how did the 1937 flood affect you and
your loved ones?
The flood did not affect me because I did not live in Louisville at that time.
8. If you wished to travel within the city limits what kind of transportation did you use? Did
you travel out of town when you were young? What kind of transportation did you use
when you traveled out of town? And if so, where did you go? What special memories do
you have of those trips?
We didn’t travel a lot but when we did, it was by car. We did attend family weddings and Bar
Mitzvahs, usually in New York. I took my first plane trip to New York to visit my aunts, uncles and
cousins when I was 17 years old.
9. Was your family involved in a synagogue/temple? Were your parents or other family
members religious?
Yes, my family was always involved with our synagogue. My father was a respected member of our
synagogue and belonged to the Men’s Club. My mother belonged to the Sisterhood.
10. What holidays and rituals were observed in your family? Do you have any significant
memories surrounding Jewish celebrations and what was special about those occasions?
All Jewish holidays and rituals were celebrated in our home and in the synagogue. We were
Conservative and very observant.
11. Did you attend Sunday school or other religious schools? Were you confirmed? Did you
have a Bar/Bat Mitzvah? What are your memories from that time? Are you still in touch with
some of the people that attended Sunday school with you?
Yes, I attended Sunday school, Hebrew school and I was confirmed.
12. What is your educational background? What was your occupation? Who or what
influenced you to choose your career? What kind of preparation or training was required
for your career?
i graduated high school and completed one year of college. I took a summer job for an insurance
company and promised to stay. I did not return to college for that reason. I was an executive
secretary, a legal secretary and administrative assistant. I retired from KFC Corp, headquarters in
November, 1985.

�13. How did you meet your mate? At what point did you realize that this was the one you
wanted to marry? Where and when were you married? Do you have children?
Grandchildren?
I met my first husband, Jack Jaffe, at the Jewish Community Center in Norfolk, Virginia in 1956. We
were married March 2, 1957 in Norfolk. We had three children: Denis (Deni) JaffeTownsend, Sharon
Ellen Jaffe (Glasser), and Leonard Burton Jaffe. Jack and I were divorced in June, 1976 and he died
in June, 1980. I net Norman Banks in June of 1982. His sister Rhona, after meeting me, gave
Norman my number to call and we began dating regularly thereafter. We were married at Adath
Jeshurun on May 27, 1984. We have no children together. Norman has three children of his own
from his previous marriage,
14. Discuss your involvement in the Jewish Community outside of your temple or synagogue
when you were growing up.
Before moving to Louisville, I was always working full time but was a member of Hadassah (and still
am) because there was always a chapter in every city to which we were transferred. I joined NCJW,
Louisville Section, the day I retired from KFC - November 1, 1985. I have remained active in all
areas of the section and served as president from 1991 to 1993. In the late 70s I was an advisor to
Modern Femmes BBG. I chaired the Scholarship Committee of the Home of the Innocents Auxiliary,
served on the Holocaust Steering Committee and on the Board of the Federation’s Community
Relations Council. My children were active in the Jewish community organizations in San Antonio
and Louisville. They continue to serve their respective communities.
15. What was your involvement in the non- Jewish community? Did you witness any antiSemitism living in Louisville? If so, how was this incident handled?
16. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel? Pearl Harbor? What are
your earliest recollections when thinking about major events in history?
As mentioned earlier, I lost all four of my grandparents in the gas chambers. And there, but for the
grace of G-d, went I. Although I have not been directly affected by the wars in Israel, I have grave
concern for its people. I pray they will one day enjoy peace.
17. What are your favorite spiritual memories? How did religion affect your life?
I particularly recall celebrating Simchas Torah with my father. The men marched around the
synagogue carrying all the torahs from the ark and we children followed behind, carrying and waving
our flags that we topped with an apple. A fond memory is of sitting between Joe Kaplan and my
husband Norman chanting and singing the prayers on the High Holidays at Adath Jeshurun. Judaism
has affected my life greatly. I have tried t live my life by its commandments.
18. What interests or hobbies did you have when you were young and what are they now?
What schools did you attend and are there any memories that stand out from that time in
your life?
family, volunteer work, mahjong, needlepointing, knitting and reading are my interests.
19. What are your favorite family memories - whether it was with your family of origin, or your
extended family and friends?

�My sister Mona and I would get my mother’s hats down from her closet and along with my mother, the
three of us would try on all the hats frontwards, backwards and inside out. We’d laugh so hard. My
son’s Bar Mitzvah and all our other joyous family events also are favorite memories.
20. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What message do you want
to leave for your children and future generations?
My legacy to this world is my three children who, in spite of obstacles and hardships they had to
overcome, have become outstanding and respected citizens in their own communities. I’d like to be
remembered as a good wife, a good mother, honest, caring and someone who tried to help others.

�QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ORAL HISTORIES
Ann Friedman
1. I am
Helene Banks
with
__________________ , 2001.

*
y

, I am conducting an interview
for the JFVS archives on

2. Can you tell me how and why your family originally came to this country
and when.
My mother was bom in the United States (Philadelphia, PA) but returned to Brussels,
Belgium with her parents and brother Ben (also bom in the U.S.) around 1912. Her
parents felt there was much anti-Semitism in the U.S. at that time and felt they would live
more comfortably in Belgium. My mother returned to the United States in July 1940
when we were fleeing the Germans in World War II. She came with me (age 3-1/2) and
my sister Simone who was only 3 weeks old and who was bom in Bordeaux, France, en
route to the United States. I was bom in Brussels but we had to flee Brussels because the
German occupation had already begun there. My mother had never relinquished her U.S.
citizenship so we, as her children, were able to come to the U.S. with her. My father
couldn’t come at that time because he was not a U.S. citizen having been bom in Poland.
He fled to Casablanca, finally making it to the United States and rejoining his family in
1941. My m other’s brothers helped him get to the U.S.
3. What were your parents’ names and where were they born?
My mother’s name was Lena Halpern. She was bom in Philadelphia, PA on May 14,
1907. My father’s name was Leon Bronstein (later Anglicized to Brownson). He was
bom in Poland about ten days after Chanukah in 1908.
4. What is your birth date? What language(s) were spoken in your home?
Where did you live then? Who lived in the same house with you Grandparents? - Uncles? - Aunts? - Brothers? - Sisters?
French and English were spoken in our home. When I arrived in the U.S. at age 3, I
didn’t know a w ord o f English - a year later I didn’t know a word o f French. We lived in
New York City immediately after arriving in the U.S. When my father rejoined us a year
later, we moved to Norfolk, Virginia where my father accepted a position as a furrier in a
well-known department store. Later he opened his own fur salon and storage vault which
in the 50’s was billed as the largest fur storage vault in the South. We lived in a small
bungalow in a lovely residential area. When I was 12 years old my parents built a large
brick Colonial home in the Larchmont area o f Norfolk. I lived in both these homes with
my three younger sisters, Simone (Mona), Bernice (Bunny) and Rachele Joyce (we called
her Joyce then). No aunts or uncles lived nearby and all four o f my grandparents were lost
in the Holocaust.

�5. What was your neighborhood like? Were there other Jews living in the
neighborhood? Did you walk to school? Sunday School? Temple?
Was there a neighborhood grocery? Drug store?
There were several other Jewish families in the Ghent area where we lived in our first
home. We walked to school. We were driven to Sunday School at Temple Beth El, our
Conservative Synagogue. There were both a grocery and drug store in this area. We
had no Jewish neighbors in the Larchmont area. I took a bus to high school each day and
we had to travel some distance to get to a grocery or drug store.

6. If you wished to travel, what kind of transportation did you use? Did you
travel when you were young? If so, where?
We didn’t travel a lot but when we did, it was by car. We did attend family weddings and
Bar Mitzvahs, usually in New York. I took my first plane trip to New York to visit my
aunts, uncles and cousins when I was 17 years old.

7. Was you family involved in a synagogue/temple?
Yes, my family was always involved with our synagogue. My father was a respected
member o f our Synagogue and belonged to the Men’s Club. My mother belonged to the
Sisterhood.

8. What holidays and rituals were observed?
All Jewish holidays and rituals were celebrated in our home and in the synagogue. We
were Conservative and very observant.

9. Did you attend religious school? Were you confirmed? Bar Mitzvah?
Yes, I attended Sunday school, Hebrew school and I was confirmed.

10. What is your educational background? What was your career?
I graduated high school and completed one year o f college. I took a summer job for an
insurance company and promised to stay. I did not return to college for that reason. I
was an executive secretary, a legal secretary and administrative assistant. I retired from
KFC Corp, headquarters in November 1985.

11. What brought you to Louisville and when did you come.
I came with my former husband who was transferred to Louisville with the Recruiting
Service o f the U. S. Air Force. We arrived here on June 9, 1975.

�12. How did you meet your husband/wife? Where and when were you
married? Did you have children?
I met my first husband, Jack Jaffe, at the Jewish Community Center in Norfolk, Virginia in
1956. We were married March 2, 1957 in Norfolk. We had three children, Denise (Deni)
Jaffe Townsend, Sharon Ellen Jaffe (Glasser) and Leonard Burton Jaffe. Jack and I were
divorced in June 1976 and he died in June 1980. I met Norman Banks in June o f 1982.
His sister Rhona, after meeting me, gave Norman my number to call and we began dating
regularly thereafter. We were married at Adath Jeshurun on May 27,1984. We have no
children together. Norman has three children o f his own from his previous marriage.

13. Tell all about your involvement in the Jewish Community. Was your
whole family involved.
Before moving to Louisville I was always working full time but was a member o f
Hadassah (and still am) because there was always a chapter in every city to which we were
transferred. I joined NCJW, Louisville Section the day I retired from KFC - November 1,
1985. I have remained active in all areas o f the section and served as President from 1991
to 1993. In the late ‘70’s I was an advisor to M odem Femmes BBG. I chaired the
Scholarship Committee o f the Home o f the Innocents Auxiliary , served on the Holocaust
Steering Committee and on the Board o f the Federation’s Community Relations Council.
My children were active in the Jewish community organizations in San Antonio and
Louisville. They continue to serve their respective communities.

14. How was your family affected by the World Wars? Wars in Israel?
As mentioned earlier, I lost all four o f my grandparents in the gas chambers. And there for
the grace o f G-d went I. Although I have not been directly affected by the wars in Israel, I
have grave concern for its people. I pray they will one day enjoy peace.

15. What are your favorite spiritual memories. How did religion affect your
life?
I particularly recall celebrating Simchas Torah with my father. The men marched around
the synagogue carrying all the torahs from the ark and we children followed behind
carrying and waving our flags that we topped with an apple. Another fond memory is of
sitting between Joe Kaplan and my husband Norman chanting and singing the prayers on
the High Holidays at Adath Jeshurun. Judaism has affected my life greatly. I have tried to
live my life by its commandments.

16. What interests do you have?
Family, volunteer work, Mah Jong, needlepointing, knitting and reading are my interests.

�17. What are your favorite family memories.
My sister Mona and I would get my mothers hats down from her closet and along with my
mother, the three o f us would try on all the hats frontward, backwards and inside out.
W e’d laugh so hard. My son’s Bar Mitzvah and all our other joyous family events also are
favorite memories.
18. What is your legacy? How would you like to be remembered? What
values would you like to pass on to those you leave behind.
My legacy to this world is my three children who, in spite o f obstacles and hardships they
had to overcome, have become outstanding and respected citizens in their own
communities. I ’d like to be remembered as a good wife, a good mother, honest, caring
and someone who tried to help others.
There was no question about the 1937 flood on the form when this interview
was done.
The flood did not affect me because I did not live in Louisville at that time.

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