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Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 021PC5.1178 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived 021PC5.1178, Bingham Family Photograph collection, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Title A name given to the resource Jonathan Bingham in scouting uniform Description An account of the resource Photograph of Jonathan Bingham standing with a smile in his Boy Scouts uniform outdoors. 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Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 021PC5.0189 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived 021PC5.0189, Bingham Family Photograph collection, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Title A name given to the resource Photograph of the Bingham family Description An account of the resource The Bingham family, including in-laws Joan Bingham and Whitney Ellsworth gathered with the family dog in front of the mantle in the Music Room at the "Big House" in Melcombe, Glenview, Kentucky. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1959-12-27 Subject The topic of the resource Kentucky--Jefferson County Glenview (Ky.) Melcombe (Glenview, Ky.) 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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. Digitization supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /> Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Jewish Community of Louisville museum collections and records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1945-1968 Moving Image A series of visual representations imparting an impression of motion when shown in succession. Examples include animations, movies, television programs, videos, zoetropes, or visual output from a simulation. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. BD J59 538a milkclip Title A name given to the resource Camp milk delivery, 1959 Description An account of the resource 8mm color film clip of a milkman delivering and removing milk churns for Camp Tall Trees, and children dispensing milk. The Jewish Community Center of Louisville hosted the 2-3 week long summer camp in Otter Creek Recreation Area, Meade County, Kentucky. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1959 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Jewish Community Center (Louisville, Ky.) Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) Jews Jewish children Jewish youth Jewish camps Camps Children Youth Milk trade Dairy products industry Milk Kosher food Food service Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource motion picture Type The nature or genre of the resource Moving Image Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. BD J59, Item 538a, Jewish Community of Louisville records, 1896-2022, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright This Item is protected by copyright and/or related rights. You are free to use this Item in any way that is permitted by the copyright and related rights legislation that applies to your use. 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To learn about this process, visit https://filsonhistorical.org/collections/order-reproductions/ https://d1y502jg6fpugt.cloudfront.net/34455/archive/files/ef8b89412bfe7c9c8646fbf76fd6fda1.pdf?Expires=1779321600&Signature=i1ib4caMNLAV45DbXdKfArZUUgzYDAUa1URWNxurOAjEUltkXLGNfwg6wzTV0ezSiWFpJwtXIlkfJT%7EYvT1mQ1MRjOauWdl2ScmRcBkRxN5rB86mfUBM%7E58EDEF%7EyE27JVkskiY1x1-h3s3IXXNXsHPNG7IHDwptx9HCE30blWhxNCYlrJDg6NzeZEXytFOm4EZzpFX-BOE%7EXYJt5oJipPqLdZ1qGK6PfpJju%7E6AJss6jjgMDqKt2c6j1CdZyD3oZx2sKUE7wXnkMSN4R6fLhtANP1wITYg4PaH5LUL7UkNVQ9GsSGdkHYgHl4rIbdMjlrxhUshroAt538gIB4G-Nw__&Key-Pair-Id=K6UGZS9ZTDSZM 528b05b0a26fe87e6f0b926c198c0453 PDF Text Text c./ Y)y\ J-J ;-\ p ' . .. -byDAVID A. SAGERMAN camp d tree tor �Sta.ff Officer• YOUNG MEN'S HEBREW ASSOCIATION Lewi& D . Cole, President Abe 8 . Berman, l•I J'lce Pre.Jule11t Jo,epb J , Kaplu , 211d l'l,-,Pre,id,111 C, Saal Bertunan, 3rd l'lu-Pre,ld,nl Sam J , B,ierlield, 4111 l'lu-Pruldelll Morrh Sjmon, Trea.,urer Mu . Jacob LeYy. Secrelo'1 0 Organized 1890 "The Jewish Community Center of Louisville" AJlillated With Co-uull7 Chell Member of the National Jewi1h Welr•re Board Aaron S. Schreiber, Esew1i11e Diru.10, Maurice M. Richlin, A1laktic Director David S ■ gt.rmao, Sup. Adult Activitie.. Edith R. Cohen. Sup . Youth Acl'iviti~ Jton c ua M ■ 1 cr. Publk Relatio,u Margaret Friedlander, Dance lrurruelor Pauline Pc ■ raon , Bu~ineu Mano, e.r Raema Ed~htt:in . ecretory , \f&Uated With Louln·llle Conference or Jewl eb Orgaab.atio•• JAckson 7164 729 S. SECOND STREET LOUISVILLE 2, K E N T U C K Y - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - September 6, 1950. Board of Directo r s Young Mon 1 s Hebrew Association 72 9 South Second Street Louisvi ll e 2, Kentucky Dear Board of Dir e ctors~ Upon tho r equest of tho Crunp To.11 Tr ees Committee , I am subr.litting this r eport o.s compiled by Mr. David A. So.gormun, Crunp Director . I am very much impres sed with this information as it brings out mnny fnc ots of tho ca.mp op er at ion which I f oo l ar c informo.t ivo nnd intorosting t o a ll of us. Mr . Sngormo.n spent mnny hours i n the pr oparo.tion of this report which touches upon every phase of tho cnmp oper at ion. I f oo l tho.t ho has done o.n outst o.nding job in tho prosonto.tion of this analysis o.nd I run sure that you will wunt to r oa d i t car efully. Since r e ly yours, s. SCHREIBER Exec utive Director AARON ASS :RE Board of Director. Honorary Board Member11 Sidae7 D . Appel Louil Cohen A . W. Fl,hebaker Ur. Jo, . M. Frehlin1 Arthur S. Klia1 Fred Lf:yy Jame ■ B . Le•y M.F.Man ChH , W'. l'tlorri, Ma.s 'Wa]dmaa Benj . F . \l-Hhtr Mu. Jacob Ade. Ale Bornttein Rabbi B. Brilliant Mrt. I. Oreyfu, JOI , li10l1ebaker Nor-ber l Friedman Rab bi J. J. Gittleman ol ColJber1 Bt'rnud S. Cold,teio Herman C. Bandmaker Carl Belman Dnld W. Karp Jame ■ Kaadan Barry J . Klein Murrel D. Klein Barry J. Klein Human Landau Mr,. Sam Lerman hadore Luine Tony Le•it ■ n E. J. Lip,cbull Rabbi M. M. Perle, Dr. I . B. Perl,teiD Dr. Jo,epb Rauch M.ra. Milton B. Roben,oo Rebbi Solomon Roodmao Ah·in S. Rotenberg , Jr . Bernard D . Roac..nblum Farrell E. Salzman Dr. Herbert S. Waller Ferd B. Weh. Jr . Mr,. Abe Yorre Alexa nder W. Erleo, Es,olfido Dr. I. T. Naamani, Es..oJllcio D ■•jd Dobaon, E•-oJJieio �R E P OR T 0 F 0 P E R AT I ON S C A MP T AL L T R E E S ----------- LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY - 1950 SEASON - by David A. Sagerman, Director Camp Tall Trees �CONTENTS OF TABLE ...• • • • • • .•.• • Forward. • • • • . Staff Organization and Salary Chart. • . • Financial Report 1950 Season • • . • . • • • • Camper Breakdown • • • • • . • . • . • . • • . • • .. • • • • • Camp Objectives. • . . • • Preface. .• . .• • • .• Counsellors. • • • • • • • .. 2 • 4 • 5 • 6 • • • • • • • • • • • 7 Programming. • • • • Health and .• • • .• • • . • • • • • Safety. • • • . • • • • • • • • .• • • • • • • Sports . • • • • • • • • • • Religious Services • Movies • Library. ... .•.• • • 8-9 • • .10-12 • • • • • • • • .13-14 • • • • .• • • .15-16 Records. • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Swimming • • 1 3 .• • • • Counsellor Training. • • • • • • • Food • Page .' • • . . .•• •• • . • • • ..• • . • • • • .• 17 .18-19 • • • • • • • • 20 • • • • • • • .21-23 • • • • • • • • • . • 24 • • 25 �PREFACE The purpose of this report is to present an objective and valid review of the Louisville YMHA Camp Tall Trees at Rock Haven, Kentucky during the period June 11 - July 23, 1950. For the sake of clarity the report has been broken down into a number of sections, each dealing with a specific aspect of the camp function. This does not disregard the obvious overlappin g and integratio n of the areas discussed , but rather serves to present the dynamic aspects of these areas more vividly. No attempt has been made to give a complete picture of the camp organizat ion, administr ation, supervisio n, nnd program. However, it is hoped that Board and Camp Committee members will better understand the general nature of operation s of Camp Tall Trees during the 1950 season and use the report as a guide for more effective planning for the forthcomin g camp season. I would like to express my sincere appreciati on to Mr. Abe Berman, chairman of the Camp Committee , for his interest and great help at all times, as well as the other members of the committee who could always be depended upon for their utmost cooperatio n. I am especially grateful to Mr. Aaron Schreiber , Executive Director of the YMHA for his able guidance and assistance during the camp season. -1- �FORWARD The camp is unique in the emphasis it places upon children's living together continuously, cooperatively and democratically in intimate contact with the out-of-doors. It is a direct experience as opposed to the vicarious learning of the classroom. tive days camping was just plain outdoor living. In primi- However, when we consider the term camping today, we usually associate with it certain elements that are inherent,--namely, outdoor experiences related to food and shelter; recreation and group living; it implies social adjustment; it is educational in that the learning experi~ ences-whether oriented towards skills, knowledge, or appreciationare vital, direct, and meaningful. •All these lend enrichment to the growth of the child. Why a Jewish camp? To encourage and help transmit our Jewish culture and heri tagEJ within a derr-,ocratic framework on the level that the camper is ready to receive, and to help develop spiritual growth, The camping ·movement has be en viewed as one of the great- est educational contributions in the past fifty years. has added fun to learning. The camp �( ( CAMP TALL TREES 1950 Season STAFF ORGANIZATION AND SALARIES Till!A CMP COL'J.UTTEE Abe Berman, Chairman Aaron S . Schreiber, YlJHA Director Abe Jacobson, Arthur Kling, Joseph Kaplan, Poachy Marks Sidney Appel, Evelyn Levine, Al Erlen, Lewis D. Cole, David Sagerrnan , Sec'y . CAT'Jl DIRECTOR David A. Sagerman HEAD COUl'TSELLOR (camp doctor) I ~ I ( $250) BOY COUNSELLORS GIRL COUNSELLORS Counsellor A 181 years (~125) Counsellor B (20½ years) ($125) Cotmsellor B 20 years ($125) Counsellor C 18½ years (t 10O) Counsellor D 19 years ( ~125) Counsellor C 22½ years Counsellor D (19 years) (~125) ($ 125) Counsellor A 24 years ($125) KITCHEN STAFF COOK (02 40) KITCHEN HELP ($100) KITCHEN HELP (C:12O) TOTAL SALA.RIES 1949--$27 79. 87 TOTAL SAL.ARIES 195O-- tl685 . OO �. INC01.~E Camp Fees . Handcraft & Canteen. Non-nembership fee . • • . .. • .• . . • . . . . . . TOTAL INCOME EXP ENDITURES: Food• • • Meat Bread Eggs, butter., milk Vegetables. Gumperts I ~ I 1949 1950 . • • • • • 636.38 . . . • . • • 682.79 137.14 . .. • • • • 172.63 424.36 500.97 . . • • 156.53 . . . . • • . . 190.23 97.05 219.30 . . • • • • • 36.25 . . . . . Fish • • • . Staples (canned goods, etc.). • 613.50 .. .• . . • .. • • .• • • • . .578.11 . ~lnries . • • • . I:Uectricity . . • • • • • • • • • • • . . . . . . . • • • ~flt • • • • • • • . • . • • • . • . _,.arts. • • . . • . • • • . • ~teen • . . . • . • • • • . • • • . • . . • • • . • • Sup~lies & Equipment. . • . • • • • • • . • • • • • . (including soaps, disinfectants, paper towels, toilet paper, dishes, etc.) . .. . .• . • .• Qtfice Su~plies. • • • . . • . . . . . . . . . loo • • • • • • • • • • • Transportation (including truck used for change periods) . . . . . . • . . Pi-ogram supplies (including paper goods). • • . • • • • • . . . Poete.ge, publicity,printing. . • • • • • • . . . . FllOl • • . • • • . . . . • • • .• • •• .• •• ~letic sup? lies • • • . • • . • • . .. . .• . Opening & clQsing • • . • • . • • • • • . . . . Laundry . • • • • • . . l,:edical Sup:;:, lies • • . . • • . . . • • • . • .. . .. . . . Conference expense. . . • • • . • . . . . . . . Miscellaneous . • . •• • • . • . . • • •• • • . • .• • Refunds . • . • Garbage disposal .• • • • • • • . New boilers . . . .• • • • .• .• • • • • • • • • • • r 4 & ~ Ca.Mp Fees YLlf.A 1·embe rs l'T on-t::embers - 035 per t wo 'T~~,e c}-::: per io d . • ~40 per t wo week pe riod • TOTAL EXPENSE TOTAL INCONB DEFICIT 1949 .$ 5,920.00 124.10 $ 1950 5,180.00 91.75 170.00 $ 6.,044.10 $ 5,441.75 2,415.67 2,029.57 <Cl 11;: . f;tJ r3 > t-< t"' 2,779.87 36.80 331.20 86.88 72.85 234.85 1,685.00 88.13 331.20 41.77 93.97 116 .67 22.78 82.03 423.13 228.73 66.10 10.27 63.28 62.37 64.80 45.35 30.00 8.64 20.00 44.45 281.71 69.76 70.62 ----------------- ----28.58 _____ .,. ------ 70.15 50.00 5.17 130.00 25.00 60.00 $ 7,065.60 $ 5,241.75 6,044.10 $ 1,021. 50 SURPLUS DAY CAMP DEFICIT BALANCE 5,441.75 200.00 $ <!' 200.00 'Ii' 000.00 r3 ~ tz:l Cl.I t-' <O Q'1 0 Cll ~ i >xj H ~ 0 H > ; 0 :::0 r3 �CAMP TALL TREES 1950 SEASON CAMPER BREAKDOWN • Planned camper capacity for 1950 season . Number of campers served . Number of different campers served . • . • • • • • I. Number of campers by period; • • • • • • • 1949 Bows Girls A. 1st period B. 2nd period C . 3rd period 19 17 28 28 28 75 25 70 (145) 20 35 28 23 30 26 79 83 (162) II. Aftie Distribution By Periods (1950) 1st Period 8 yrs. 9 yrs. 10 11 12 13 14 15 yrs. yrs. yrs. yrs. yrs. yrs. Boy~ 5 2 3 1 Girls 4 2 2 2 2nd Period Boys 3 5 4 3 2 6 4 2 3 4 2 1 4 .144 .145 . 99 • Girls 3 5 4 7 9 2 Total Age Dtet. 3rd Period Boys 2 5 6 2 3 3 7 Girls 4 5 Boys Girlf 10 11 12 1 5 13 9 4 10 4 7 14 1 -- 11 7 14 15 10 .2 III. Average Food Costs Per Person 1 949 . • .Campers plus staff (225)--actua l food expenditures $ 2,366.00 10.51 CJst per person per period 'it' i,., ~ 1950 . . . Campers plus staff (190)--actua l food expenditures -1? 2,30.00 $ 10.• 68 Cost per person per period - 5- �CAMP OBJECTIVES The program at Camp Tall Tree s hBs been evolved with the following objective s in mind: 1. To dev e lop s e lf-re lia nc e , insight, and resourc e fulness through dire ct expe ri enc e s in group living ; 2. To l ea rn the fund amental:' skills necess a ry for living in the out-of-doors; 3. To deve lop n ew leisure time a ctivitie s high in carry-over va lue 4. To d e ve lop physic a l ho alth throu gh di e t, r e st, and activities; 5. To d c volo p knowledge, judgme nt, insight, and appro::. ciation of the world a bout us; 6. To de velop whol e some attitudes a nd high ideals; 7. To r emove superstitions a nd fe a rs of the outdoors and show that t he world a bout us c a n be us ed to enrich live s; 8. To encour ag e socia l valu e in group living--getting a long togc the r--re c o 6 nizG soci&l r e s ponsibility as an individual to the g roup; d e vel op cornmunity expe ri e nc e :J.nd r e s pon s ibility through g roup proj0cts; 9. To he lp d e ve. lop a sounder per·sons.lity b y e. tt e mpt ing to mee t the n eeds of the camp e r in terms of his physical, social, moral, a nd ps ychologic a l d eve lopme nt; J.O. To d e ve lop democra tic principle s of sh2, ring, planning, and c oope r &. tion; 11. To encourag e and he lp transmit our Jewish culture o. nd heritage; 12. To m[t k c friends ond ha vE. fun in pleas a nt surroundings. ·- 6 - �COUNSELLORS Leadership for camp counselling implies the possession of personal qualities, skills, trnining, nnd experience which will enable each counsellor to perform his specific function in the camp progrRm . The counsellor must also he.ve a clear understanding of his professional relctionships to the camp administration , to campers, to parents, to ether staff members, and to tho locnl community~ Though th e program is the real reason children ~njoy camping, whether or not a camp realizes its major goals depends upon the skill with which the program is planned and carried out . The counsellor in terms of his skills, physical, social, intellectual, and emotional qualities is the key to the successful camp program. The counsellor at Camp Tall Tre e s during the 1950 season was selected on the basis of pe rsonal qualities, education , and extent of previous camping experience . All the counsellors were either coll ege students or c ollege graduatos and had had previous camping experience. There were no specialty counsellors. ERch cabin- couns e llor group workc~ out its own overall program, including activities such as archery, crafts, nature, etc. Each counsellor, however, assumed a specinlized role in addition to his or her regular duties. A malG and female counsellor (bo th lifeguard ex- am iners) conducted the swimm ing program. Another person was in charg e of c2nteen; library~ athletic equipment; ballet class; healt class, etc. Counsellors t no k turns in conducting nnd leading even- ing programs, dependent up on their interests and skills. They re- ceived one day off during the week except the opening and closing weeks of camp. girls I area. OD duty was rotated daily in both tho boys' ana - 7 - �COUNSELLOR TRAINING 1. Training prior to camp a. b. 2. personal interviews prlor to opening of camp where . aims, objectives, philosophY,and program possibilities are discussed correspondence with counsellors prior to their arrival at camp to discuss the various aspects of camping Pre-camp conference Two days prior to opening of camp a pre-camp training course was held at C8ll11p Tall Trees. Only two days are avail- able for pre-camp training due to a time element in obtaining the camp area. Four days would be highly desirable. The nature of the training period was that of having discussion leaders qualified in certain areas of camp program to present some of the objectives and values of that particular phase of camping experience and how each counsellor would fit into the total picture in making use of this program area. The history and background of the camping movement as well as philosophy of camping was discussed by the director. Health and safety was discussed by the camp doctor. Swimming instruction and safety were presented by the life guard examiner. Sessions were held on camp routine and schedules, staff regulations, campcrafts, sports, recordkeeping and reports, singing, table courtesies, arts and crafts , trips, and Jewish content in program areas. in The films, "School Time Camp" and "Feeling of Rejection" were shown and discussed. In almost every tnstance the counsellors participated in the planning and in the discussion of the counsellor training course. -· 8 - �3. In-service training From time to time demonstration s and discussions we re held on various phases of camping and program. staff meetings a week we re held . An average of two Individual conferences we re held onc e a week be twee n the di r ector and couns el lor. Daily narratives and period r eports we r e kep t by all couns el lors and were used a s a basis for discussion a t staff mee tin gs and individual confe r ences. In order for the couns ellor to do a more eff e ctive job and have a more satisfying pe rsonal expe ri enc e at camp , it is r ecomme nd ed tha t the various staff tra in ing methods employ ed this past year be utiliz ed for th e coming s ea son, and, if possible, to ha ve a longe r p r e -c amp confe r e nc e period to furth e r exp lor e a r ea s of prog r amming and orie ntation. - 9 - �PROGRAI,1MING Camp Tall Trees is organized as a decentralized co-ed camp with a counsellor-camper ratio of 1 to 6 -7. In view of the American Camping Association standard of 1 to 8 as a mark of good camping , this ratio is highly satisfactory. Since the needs and interests of campers vary (age, sex , etc .l an at tempt was made to rnep the p r ogram balanced and va ried s o that the camp objectives coulo be achieved while meeting the needs of the individual ca mper in terms of his physical , mental , social and emotional edjustments . Programming wa s highly flex - ibl e ano the cabin group and counsellor - in-charge were primarily r esponsible for the types of activities carried on by each group . Besides th e ca b in -c ounsellor method of d e termining th e cabin group program, in c e rt a in a ctivities camper r ep res e ntatives planned programs, a nd in other inst an c e s acti it y was pr ea rranged by st a ff . In al l instances the he a lth ana s a fety of the c ampe r was a p rime conside r a tion. Ther e was an hour rest period afte r lunch every ~ft e rnoon and b e dtime was 9:00 p . m. As units, t he c a mpers planned the ir cookouts , overnights , exploration trips, fishing trips , crafts, hikes, e tc . As repre - sentatives of g rou p s they helped plan reli g ious programs , sports ev e nts, c amp fire programs , mass activities , skit nights , carnival a nd othe r spe cia l c ctiviti e s . The staff a rr anged for such p ro- gram s as a couns e llor show, u nd banquet . In gene r a l, tho campers pra ctic ed planning, thinking, a nd living coop e rativ e ly. only t a lk ed d emocra cy, t hey liv ed it . They shared in the respon - sibility a s well as the benefits of their activities . - 10 - They not �Tho general basis of program content involved camper interes· c amper needs, staff interests and capabilities, the equipment available, the c amp site, and the philosophy of camping as de veloped by the camp director and staff. The daily schedule in- cluded a morning and afternoon swim period; a morning and afternoon activities period, and an evening program . The program was evaluated from time to time at staff meetings and at individual conferences with counsellors in ternis of objectives achieved in proportion to the period of time spent in camp; the counsellor point of view; the campor point of view; and in terms of uso of Program records and camper records mn terials in the environment. were used in these evaluations. The programs listed repres~nt the actual activities campers participntec in during tho camp sercson. However, this does not include the entire scope of the camp progre.m . A. Daily Progran~ing Photography Campcrafts Hiking Cookouts Games--indoor; outdooractivc; inactive B. Story telling Dram:.:i.tics Singing Berry picking B0king pies Pishing Swimming Athletic activities Nature hikos--trees, ani mals, flowers, minerals Arts and crnfts--v. oodwork, woodburning, tin can crafts, gimp projects, copper tooling, leaf prints Exploration trips--pipe line, Morgans Cave, Blue Hole, etc. 1 - Projects - -trce house , nature museum, dining hall decorations Rest periods- - rcst, letter writin quiet games, read, discuss program Flag ceremonies Afternoon snack Overnights Each group aftor having experiences of hiking anc1 2 cookout during the first week, w8nt on ar overnight hike and cooked at leae two meals outdoors. The group living expE.:rience, the acquisition of new skills , and the thrill of n new experience and the reassur&nce that the out of doors ~re safe, makes this a must in the camping program. 11 - �C. SpC; cinl Activi tie s Trip t o Ft . Knox - -gold vault , Patt on museum , swim , fl ag loweri~ g , movie Hay rid e t o farm and picni c St a t e Cha mp di vin g exh ibition Campe r - Couns ul l or s o ftb a l l v.nd ba ske t ba ll ac ti vi ti e s Carniv a l Come F-S y ou a re d a nc e Dramat ics .So c ial ·game.a. St or y t e lling night F'r ee nig ht E . Class e s Hea lth Be. ll e t Cho ir (f or s e rv i c e s) D. Eve ni ng Activi ti e s Tr ea s u r e hunt s Sc o. v 0ng6 r h un ts Campfi r e s Stu nt nigh t s F . J ewish Co nt e nt Fr iriay e ve ni ng a nc Sa turday mo rning s e r v ic e s Onog Sh9. bba ts St ory t c ll j ng J ev ish trut h a nd c ons e qu e nc e s Cr ea tivs d rnmG t i cs (b ~s ed on Bibl e t heme s) Ma cc ::1bc id d r.y Sca venge r hunt ba s ed on Bible theme s t:'1J i z s hc,vrn S1uare a n~ s oci a l d an c ing Cap t ur e the fl ag Midnig ht s wim Campe r-c ou ns e ll o r sh ow Camps r-c c uns e ll or game s Camper be. nque t Spel l ing bee Mo v iC; s N0wsp2.pe r - 12 - �FOOD Menu plannin g was aimed at a balance d diet of plain, wholesome food, well cooked and attract ively served . • The primary considera tions were to meet the nutriti onal require ments and provide adequa te food for the growing chil~. The food budget , though predete rmined , was flexib le in that all these criter ia were met more than adequa tely . Foodst uffs include d moals served in the dining hall as well as outdoo r cooking , camp partie s, and for specia l occasio ns. Dietary laws were observ ed. The menus were set up in consul tation with a dietici an for the entire camp period prior to the opening of camp . Variety , nutriti ve value , avnila bility of foods and use of left-ov ers were factors considered in the plannin g of _meals. Afterno on snacks were pro~ vided daily and bedtime snacks from time to time . snacks w ✓ re provide d each evenin g. Counse llor Counse llors were made aware of the individ ual camper 's n(rnds from a medica l history and parent s report provide d us on each child . to help develo p desira ble An attemp t was made food habits in terms of needs. Menus for cookou ts end overnig ht hikes were reviewe d carefu lly by the counse llor and camp directo r to determ ine balanc e, adequa cy, and nutriti onal value. Record s of menus of all cookou ts and over- nights were mainta ined as referen ces for future guidan ce . The kitchen staff consist ed of a cook, who was respon sible for the prepar ntion of all meals, and two helpers whose primary duties consist ed of washin g dishes , cleanin g the kitchen and dining hall, and setting the dining hall tables . This staff was able to handle service for sixty-f ive person s includi ng the staff. The dining hall was a place for relaxti on and educat ion as well , and table courte sies we~e practic ed at all times • .. 13 - �A very adequate sto ckroom made it possibl e to place a large initial order of canned foods and ce r tain staples so that only one other large order of this type was necessary to meet the re quirement s for the remainder of the season . Savings in time and money resulted from these quantity purchases . Fresh fruits and vegetables wero primarily purchased weekly, though sometimes i t was necessary or desirable to purchase aaily . were delivered to camp daily. Dairy products A deep freeze at camp made it possible to hold a reserve of four days ' meat supplies at one time and orders were delivered a day prior to use of the last day ' s supply . Health examinatio ns were requirod for the cook and the two kitchen helpers . Personal cleanlines s was stressed at all times . The kitchen and dining hall were scrubbed weekly . Garbage was removed daily and whatever remained was burned in an incinera t or. Plnt6s and utensils were thoroughly cleaned, washed with soap , sterilize d , and dried . Fly and rodent controls were effected by the frequent use of insecticid es, and thorough screening of all doors and windows . In general, the kitchen and food practices and procodure s provea more than satisfa c tory . - 14 - • �HEALTH AND SAFETY The whole camping experience is closely interwoven with health, and safety provisions and practices. One of the import- ant aims is health improvement, and the dovelopmont of desirable health habits. Safety is also a major concern in camp layout as well as in all phases of the camp program. Health and safety precautions at Camp Tall Trees were fairly rigid and the results of these measures were very satisfactory. In gen0ral, the health and safety of the campers was very good-there were no serious illnesses or accidents. There were the usual scratches, bites, bruises, cuts, blisters, abrasions, sore throats and colds. However, the number of cases was relatively The following measures were carried out for camp health. small. I. General Camp Health A. Sanitation l. drinking water inspected by city 2. garbage picked up daily or burned 3. kitchen and din:tng hall cleaned daily and scrubbed weekly 4. camp area sprayed for mosquitoes by Army 5. latrines and washing area cleaned daily 6. camp area policed regularly B. Balanced Diet 1. plain, wholesome food, well-cooked and attractively served, and adequate for needs of growing child. c. Physical and Mental Health 1. counsellors planned activities so that there would be no 6verstrain and overfntigue of their crunp groups 2. counsellors were guided by pre-camp data on individual campers 3. counsellors received some understandlng of mental hygiene in staff meetings and individual conferences. D. Waterfront 1. qunltfied lifeguards for instr~ction and adequate protection by counsellor coverage of specific swimming areas 2. water treated and tested each dny - 15 - �3. 4. 5. 6. shower faciliti es near pool safety devices such as life buoy and bamboo pole counsel lors instruct ed in first aid by camp doctor camp doctor final authorit y on whether camper could go swimming E. Sleeping Quarters 1. cabinsw i th no more than five campers for heal th precauti ons 2. daily inspecti on of c ebins and weekly scrub down F. Lnund ry 1. campers laundry taken into town weekly 2. kitchen lrnlp did some campers ' laundry 3. campers did individu al laundry II, Persona l Health A. Honlth Practice s I";onmp 0rs were educated to change clo thes frequen tly and keep clean 2, rest periods were provide~ each day after lunch 3, counsel lors concerne d self with eat:l.ng habits of onmpers 4. nine o 'clock bedtime III, Safety A, Preoa.ut ions 1, campers learned charact eristics of poison ivy--its preventi on and cure e, trips wh:i.ch lnvolved dangerou s cliffs and hills were ovoid Eid 3, safety at the waterfvo ~t wns constan tly impresse d upon the campers y Infirmar.._ IV, .....,..,...._,, A, Orp;aniz ation 1, supervis ed by medical student also wheneve r 2, sick calls in morning and afternoo n necessar y 3, adequate supply of first aid equipme nt and medical supplies Due to defectiv e bo1lers during the first two periods, the availab ility of hot water was not assured . Gas heaters replaced the coal stoves tqe last period and this proved very satisfac tory. One of tho toilets in enah latrine was inoperat ive for various lengths of time during the six weoks as was the boys urinal. These conditio ns were reported to the park superint endent and correcte d as they occured , Clo~ er supervis ion of campers would alleviat e the problem of stoppage of toilets, It is recomme nded that n hot wate r tap and toildet faojliti es be installe d in the infirmar y, ... l6 "' �RECORDS Records are extreme ly valuable in that they serve as guideposts as to particip ation, achie vement, financia l status, as well as a number of other purpose s. They lend themselv es readily to interpre tation for future guidanc e, Like any report, camp re- cords are valuable only as they are used. During the 1950 season at Camp Tall Trees the followin g records were maintain ed. I. Health a. Health history (physici an) b. Confide ntial informa tion by parent c. Acciden t record II. III. Business a. Contrac ts -- food, personn el, parks b. Payroll c. Individu al accounts d. Financi al statemen ts e. Transpo rtation f. Food invento ries Personne l Records a. Camper applicat ions b. Counsel lor applicat ions c. Registr ation lists and enrollm ents a. Counsel lors' daily narrativ e e. Counsel lors' camper period report f •. OD and Days Off records g. Counsel lor rating scales a. b. c. d. e. f. g. h. Evening programs Daily program schedule Swimming records Canteen and craft records Indoor games and sports equipme nt records Library records Cookout records Overnig ht reports - 17 - �SWIMMING Safety: follows: The qualific ations of the guarding counsel lors were as two life guard instruct ors, two senior life guards, and five counsel lors who didn't necessa rily have train:ing or life saving experien ce. Each counsel lor was given a specific area of the pool to guard which best fitted his ability . The duties of the guarding counsel lor were to watch his assigned area, to enforce safety regulati ons of the pool, and to give individu al The duties of the instruct ors help and assistan ce where needed. were to set up safety regulati ons, supervis e guards, organize and instruct classes. The Buddy System was employed as a checking device. Each camper was assigned a partner and these partners swam together They were required to stay to- in the same area of the pool. gether througho ut the swim and at a whistle which blew at fifteen minute interval s, they ·were supposed to become quiet and raise their buddy's hand. This system proved to be the simples t and most effectiv e checking method. A ring buoy and a bamboo pole were on hand at the pool to use as safety devices . Classes: The first day of each period every camper was screened and placed in an instruct ion class (beginne rs, interme diates, swimmer s, life saving, and advanced swimmer s), During the first and second periods instruct ion was given during the general swims on the average of three times a week to each class. great portion of this time was devoted to the beginne rs. A There was some difficu lty in conducti ng classes for the more advanced swimmers due to overcrow dedness in deep water. - 18 - During the third �period the classes were taken separately for one-half hour every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday . Therefore each class had the same amount of instruction. At the end of every period Red Cross swimming tests were given to each class. a. b. c. d. e. f. 77 23 23 18 8 5 The overall results were as follows: tests were passed by 61 individuals beginners out of 50 passed their test intermediates out of 28 passed swimmers out of 22 passed Jr. Life Savers out of 10 passed advanced swimmers out of 5 passed Ev8ry person tn camp regardless of wh0ther or not he passed his test, made a dufinite advancement. Ev8luation: The swimming program this year was very gratifying . Evciry camper received at least a minimum amount of individual The testing was in strict compliance with Red cross inst~uction. standards. Two ... thirds of the camp passed tests. passed two tests. F'ifteen campers The system used for the third period was definitely superior than that used during the first two periods since the instructor could devote more time to teaching each class--particularly the more advanced swimmers . Of all the classes, the Jr. Life Saving class was the weakest. This was due to the lack of time available for instruction since the pool was sh3red with another agency. Recommendation: The greatest problem of the swimming setup is the inability to have full time use of the pool since it is shared with the YMCA camp. More general counsellors qualified to help in swimming instruction would prove invaluable. A three week camping period would facilitate instruction considerably . It is difficult to conduct a class in a two week period--especially for beginners. Separate instruction periods should be the class arrangement for next year. - 19 T" �SPORTS The physi cal g rowth of t he c amper is vital to t he c ampi ng program, and , as in ot he r a r eas, was developed wi th the pri ma ry purpose of maki ng a place for all - - in t erm s of va rious interests , stages of d evelopmEint, expe rienc e , and s kill, The physical we ll - being of the camper ·was a ma.;or conc e rn and a ccid e nt prevention and ove r ex e rtion of t he individua l was ca r efully watched . Efforts we re ma de by a ll counsello rs to have the campe r part i ci pate active ly in the physica l a ctiviti e s whe neve r possibl e. Howe ver , .no child was for ced to e nga ge in any a ctivity he d efini t e l y did no t choos e to parti ci pa te in . Competiti ve sp irit wa s guided a long such line s that trying who l ehea rt ed l y to win was more impo rt an t t han· the actu a l winning . Soci a l dev e lopme nt was empha si zed -- tr icke ry and uns portsma nlike condu ct were frown ed upon while e motiona l co n trol , r e spe ct for a nd fri e ndiinoss t owa rd opponents , irnividua l a nd group cooperatio n and r e spons ib il ity we r e looked upon with hig h r ega rd. The sports pa rti c ipa t e d in by the c ampers this past s eason were : arche ry, bndminton , bask etball , goa l hi, hor s esho e pitching ping pong, soft ball , socc e r, volleybal l, and swimming, Emphas is was on participa tion on a n informa l basis thou gh the r e wa s some organiz ed whol e some competitio n in softball, basketbal l, a s we l l as a swimming me ot. - 20 - �RELIGIOUS SERVICES We were fortunate in securing a rabbinical student from one of the schools who , in addition to his religious training, had the ability to relate to children and help them in planning and carrying out a religious program for camp at their level . At the beginning of the camping season an effort was made to organize the services for Sabbath into a pattern that was acceptable both to the Reform and Conservative~Orthodox group in camp. Because of its greater literary value, as well as its shortness, the Union Prayer Book service for both days was selecte( as the model . The Friday night service consisted of the following : a . An opening Readers I Prayer which set the tone for the entire service. b. A responsive reading from one of the psalms. c . The Bawrechu, with response by choir and congregation . d . The Maariv aarawvim in English. e. The Shema, said by both reader and choir and congregation. f . The V1 awhavtaw, said in English . g . The Micawmochaw read responsively by reRder, cholr and congregation. h. The shawmroo b'nai Yisroel said in English. i . A shortened English Amida. j. A rtsai B 1 mnoohawsaynoo in English . k. A readers' prayer before the silent prayer. ],. The silent prayer followed by "May the➔ words • .. 11 sung by choir and congregation. m. The sermon. n. 11 May the time not be distant ..• " followed by yom hahoo in English. o. Closing Hymn. p . Benediction, related to the sermon. The Saturday morning service, though shorter, maintained basically the same elements, with the exception of the Michawmocha The Torah service consisted of blessings before and after the Torah, the first few verses read in Hebrew, and the remainder in English, the blessings before and after the Haftorah, and a Haf- torah rela t0d to the Torah section. each of these. - 21 ... Snort explanations preceded �It will be noted that there was no change from the traditional service at the synagogue or temple of the camper, although, of course, the service was much shorter. The Adoration was elimi- nated as being a distinctively ~eform feature in the regular service. Tho basic reasons for maintaining a standard service wore as follows: a. b. c. d. The element of recall was greater, making it easier for the younger campers to follow the service. The service would help understanding of the service used at home, rather than a service that was a completely new experience. The readers' prayers added the special camp touch as did the sermon. Most so-called camp services examined were filled with hackneyed phrases, and since the service still had its basic outlines,the special camp references only made the s e rvice longer. A choir was organized to help carry out the service. Little emphasts was placed on singing ability, but a great emphasis was placed on eagerness to learn. Various types of recognition for the choir were given, including refreshments at the end of choir practice, grab-bag parties, and a prominent place in every service. No songs were taught outside of regular songs for the service because of the shortness of time. The choir, composed of boys and girls, averaged between seven and nine members, with usually more campers applying for choir than there were places for them. The individual readers were selected from each counsellor's group and rehearsed prior to the service. for them. The readers' prayers were written These prayers usually emphasized aspects of camp life such as cooperation, comradeship, devotion, etc. The sermon it- self followed a flexible pattern but generally tended to follow the following outlines: a. b. c. d. Introduction to a general theme Story illustrating the general theme Moral of the story Application of the moral to the camp situation - 22 - �The following conclusions can be arrived at from this year I s experience: a. b. c. d. The services were generally successful. The greatest ~ey to this was the fact that attendance at services was not considered a chore, and permission to participate in them was a coveted honor. The sermons that were most successful were those that emphasized the story and "soft pedaled" the moral. The suspense type of story was the most successful. The choir rehearsals were rather short; the reward aspect might be deemphasized next year. The brunt of a succussful service tended to rest on one person, Moro pa~ticipation in actual organization of tho service might bo more desirable, although unilateral direction is more of a coordinating factor. - 23 - �MOVIES Movies were shown weekly to the campers. The films were screened and obtained free of charge from the Louisville Public Library. The presentations usually lasted an hour. Special films were selected for counsellors from time to time. . The films chosen for the campers were based to meet the varied interests of boys and girls as well as accounting for the different age groups represented. They wer~ also selected on the basis of entertainment value and educational purpose. Counsellors and campers had a voice in the selertion of films shown. The pic- tures were well received and the campers seemed to enjoy them very much. A sampling of the films used were: Campers -rr"swimming for BeginnersH "Basketball Thrills of 1949 11 "Here Comes The Circus" "Let's All Sing Together" "Follow the Arrow" "News Parade of 1948 11 "We Do It Because" "America the Beautiful" "Story of Money" "Animals Growing Up 11 "The Zoo 11 11 0f These Our People 11 ( background of Jews from Colonial times to present and their contribution) 11 Kentuckie Rifle" "Football Parade of 1948 11 "Mother Goose Stories" "Sport Thrills of the Year" "Yankee Doodle Goes to Town 11 "Care of Pets" "Behind Your Radio Dial" Counsellors "School Time in Camp" "Feeling of Rejection" "Where Will You Hide" 11 Boundry Lines" "Marriage and Di vo re e" "Swimming for Beginners" - 24 - �LIBRARY The Camp Tall Trees library, located in the dining hall, was composed of eighty-six books. An assortment of fifty books for boys and girls aged eight to fifteen was prepared and loanerl to Camp by the Public Library in Louisville. the property of the YMHA. The remainder were A counsellor was in charge of the library which remained open for fifteen minutes every afternoon after lunch. During the first period more books were checked out than during the remaining two periods, out the first period. Fifty-two books were checked Several days of rain probably contributed to an unusual amount of reading at this time. period twenty-four books were checked out. During the second This drop might be attributed in large part to the fine weather during this period. The third period showed a total checkout of thirty-seven books. The library system employed at camp s semed very satisfactory. It was felt t~at the sampling of books was quite adequate, but that there should have been a greater selection for distribution. - 25 - � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. 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Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. 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Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource circa 1950s Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) Jews Jewish camps Camps Employees Wages Labor costs Wages--Camp counselors Wages--Food industry and trade Wages--Temporary employees Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource list Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. 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This second period we will all treasure because of its excitement, its fun, and its many chances to learn new activities and make new friends. * We all learned a great deal from camp. WHAT’S COOKIN’ AT TALL TREES Period Issue No. 2 period; Jerry Miller, our head , claims that Dave’s efforts will be strictly an interfaith project which Holy Name, which takes over Tail­ trees after us, will benefit from. Dave, however, has enlisted the aid of Davey Kahn, and the two Daves are working hard to show Jerry, and the rest of the camp, that they are wrong. They guarantee radishes, lettuce and carrots for the last period banquet. Every day after lunch and supper you can see these two Camp Talltree farmers rationing water to their starving plants from can­ teens. Jerry just smiles and shakes his head from side to side. Maybe a prayer will help. Many of us don’t realize it, but three of the most important people in camp are our kitchen staff. Fanny Rae, our be­ loved cook, makes some mighty fine FAMOUS MISQUOTES FROM ' . dishes for us, and is assisted by her COUNSELLORS efficient and friendly helpers, Louise and Miss Mary. They never seem to lose their tempers with us, though some­ Jerry “I quit, Dave I Get an octupus 1 ” times we can get mighty annoying. Simon “There certainly is something to Finally, there is our camp director, what you say.” David Sagerman, who brews up a right smart amount of “bug juice” and makes Fadel “Come on, £rls. Let’s go! ” some delicious cake for ' the whole A camp. Leon “Anyone find a frog around here?’? BETTER HOMES & GARDENS One of the new projects here in camp is known in various circles as “Dave’s Folly’’, “Camp Talltrees’ Interfaith Program,’’ and other such titles. It is Dave Sager man’s vegetable garden by the basketball court. Dave has plan­ ted carrots, lettuce, and radishes, in his garden early in the beginning of the Irv “Our next project will be a lion’s cage.” Susie “Nothing I like better than the Ballet Theatre.” Jane “How did you say we do that?” Helen “I just love camp I ” Paul ‘ ‘Now, make like a windmill... ” �- 2 - A COUNSELLOR’S EYE-VIEW OF HIS CAMPERS With some apprehension I watched my new group as they noisely clamored from the bus. These beys immediate­ ly got together like locusts in a field of wheat, and remained together in a solid, smoothly working unit for the entire period. There were, of course,, some normal falling outs in ihe usual march of events; but my boys were really “He Men” and right after any problem they got together again and for­ get. all differences. By the time these campers left me, I had become more : attached to them than I ever had before. - Irv Goldstein. A CAMP DIRECTOR’S HQPE^ A -v j, Every child should know a;hi-JI, And the clean joy of runr^^'c its long slope With the wind in his hair.',? k The comfort of its cool lap of shade And the supple strength of its arms Balsfticing him between earth and sky So he is the creature of both. He should know bits of singing water The strange mysteries of its depths, And the long sweet grasses that border it. Every child should know some scrap Of uninterrupted sky, to shout against; And have one star, dependable and bright, For wishing on. WHAT IS SPORTSMANSHIP? Sportsmanship is something we need not only in our camp, but the world over. For sportsmanship brings us friends, happiness and satisfaction. The games activities that we have are based on sportsmanship. In any game we play or anything we do, we find it is needed. When we go over to the softball field or to the badminton court, we see that we have a much more enjoyable time if we are good sports and cooperate with others. In this camp we know the true meaning of fellowship and friendship which in Hie end add up to SPORTSMANSHIP. - Delores Cohen CONGRATULATIONS Congratulations and best wishes to our head counsellor, Jerry Miller on his forthco­ ming marriage to Miss Sara Stein. Both the counsellors and the campers join in to say good luck, Jerry and Sara. RELIGION IN CAMP ’ • ( • Have you ever thought that all of the great events in Judaism never happened in cities ? Moses climbed on top of a mountain to receive the message of God, Elijah sought vic­ tory ovgt the prophets of Baal on a hill. Wnah found God on the high seas. Somewhat in the same way we in camp find God much closer to us than in the cities. God lives for us in ever'7 tree, in every sun­ rise. When, we worship on Friday and Saturday, it is our Judaism as it should be — ? the Judaism of an outdoor people, living among vine­ yards and gardens. Here in the camp, we find God much more readily because we live with him all day long. It is suitable that we begin activities in camp by saying grace at breakfast ernd close it with the singing of “God is Nigh” at taps. And when we retire with Nature’s symphony of sound as our background, we feel God’s presence nearer than ever. �- 3 - TALLTREES CHIPS RIDDLE ME AGAIN ! ! I 1 ! I I ! John Pachter “What is a plant The love bug sure gets around. Just' that has no roots?” ask Gordon Gutmann and Irene Muhr. Charles Sapoznick - “A manu­ Some of our cutest couples at camp facturing plant. * ’ this year are Sandra Baldwin and Charles Cohen, Joy Yudofsky and Emo­ Eddie Mueller - What is a horn ry Straus, Marcia Fox and Eddie that doesn’t toot ? Gordon, Margie Berman and Eddie Marty Weinberg - ”A shoe Mueller, Beverly Goldsmith and Lee horn. ” Burstyn... Won’t David K. ever give the girls a break?... Mona, Delores Beverly Goldsmith - “Why C and Ealaine are all racing after the did the moron take peanuts to same guy. Who is going to win?... bed with him?” Melvin G. seems to have no special Ruth Ann Rozel - To feed his girl in camp since his one and only pigeon toes. ” Lois is at home... Clarice Heller and ''Pudgie” Marks make a cute Nancy Seidman - “Why did the couple, don’t they?... Carol Baker & moron take hay to bed with him? Dewey Wantz were seen at the movies Margie Berman - “To feed his together. They had a date for the nightmare. ” hayride. -Sandra Turk & Sandra Baldwin. - A. Nony. Mouse “ A-TENTIN’ TOI^hSS^ COOKING OUT IS FUN Our group went to Morgan’s Cave for our cookout. When we got there we Cabins 64 & looked for dry wood which was rather from an overnight hike. We went with hard to find since it had rained earlier Paul’s group to the Old Tenting Groun­ in the day. Our counselor Helen chop­ ds. ped down a dead tree for firewood. We After we arrived there, we unpacked chopped it into small pieces, then we our bedrolls. Then we put up our tents. made the fire. Paul, with the help of the campers, built a fire. Fadel, our counsellor, with For lunch we had Pronto Pups, baked beans and coru-on-the-cob. After we ate the help of Syrell Sapoznick, Louise we cleaned up our trash and went down Weaken. Davise Honig, Miriam to the creek to wash the dishes. Frank, Davise Honig, Miriam Frank, We took pictures and we also explored for Fran.iss Goldberg, Hannah Rita Wolf­ a while. Then we hiked back. We had a son and Syrl Cohen, started supper. very nice time. After a short while, the 1 'never tiring - Gerry Friedman campers” set out for a short hike to the General Store. When we returned, NATURE BOY we roasted marshmellows. Then Paul told us a story. One day during the second period our After that we all went to bed. It was group went on a nature hike to Van Bu­ rather cold, but we all slept well. In ren. Houston Oppenheimer saw a snake. the morning we had another fire going. We saw a spider with baby spiders on After breakfast we started back again. her back. We also saw a tree that had It seemed shorter coming back than it thorns two inches long. did going. We all had a good time. - Steve Hyman. - Syrl Cohen. �- 4 THE SECOND PERIOD CAMPERS The Chatterboxes - Judy Wolf , couns ellor . The Sweetie Pies - Fadel Fried­ lander, counsellor Joy Yudofsky - She certainly lives up to her first name. Sandra Baldwin - “Can we lead a song?” Sandra Turk - “Are there secon­ ds?” Nancy Seidman - Future Miss America. Marcia Fox - Always cheerful. Margie Berman - Well liked and active in all activities. Beverly Goldsmith - Pretty dimples. Beverly Ostroff - On the ball. Miriam Frank - “When I marry my millionaire the first thing I’ll do is put escalators on these roads.” Davise Honig - “I have men problems but not the bad kind; I have the good kind. Too many.” Frances Goldberg - “Fadel, come here quick i There’s an octupus in our cabin.” Syrl Cohen - “I don’t want to do it unless Frances does it.” Syrell Sapoznick - “The beginners test was easy.” Hannah Wolfson - “This is the first time I’ve been at camp.” Louise Weleken - “I put up two tents by myself.” The Lazy Daisies - Helen Barish, counsellor. Cabin 67 had a swell bunch of girls. The chatterbox of the group was the attractive brunette, Caryl Jane Flumbaum. Elain Levitan was always leader on the hikes, and she kept up a swell pace. The two “look-alikes” Mona Garon and Sharon Morguelan were always seen together. The cut-up of the bunch, Gerry Friedman, was wellliked by all and helped her cabin mates to have a swell time at camp. ----- The Spirit of ’76 - Paul Bell, c ouns ellor. Mel Woodman - “Aw, come on, Paul. Let’s go on a really rough hike.” Ivan Marks - “ I’ve only had six helpings of mashed potatoes. Can’t I have sevenths?” Dewey Wantz - “I think we should play softball this morning. We haven’t played it for hours.” Barry Friedman - “But we just The Fancy Pants - Jane Bermanpan’t hear that bell ring in the morning counsellor. and no one ever wakes us up. ” John LeNard - “We’re moving to Delores Cohen - “Let’s play soft- Washington but I’m not a congressman ball.” yet.” Ruth Ann Rozel - “ All I like to do ----The Wildcats - Leon Kreitman, is hike.” Irene Muhr - “Let’s sing‘She Waded counsellor. in the Water’.” Charles Sapoznick - Lanyard king Carol Baker -‘Camp is so much Richard Stern - “This place ain’t civilized. fun this year.” Clarice Heller - “I want to sing.” Morty Weinberg - Good sense of humor. Debby Erlen - “Swimming is my Jimmy Cohn - “What do we do next, favorite sport.” Leon?” � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. Digitization supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /> Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Jewish Community of Louisville museum collections and records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1945-1968 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. BD J59 Folder 0538 Item 006 Title A name given to the resource Tall Trees Tower, Second Camping Period, July 14, 1951 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Camp Tall Trees Goldstein, Irvin Cohen, Delores Turk, Sandra Baldwin, Sandra Cohen, Syrl Hyman, Steve Friedman, Gerry Description An account of the resource Four-page newspaper produced by Jewish counselors and campers of Camp Tall Trees in Meade County, Kentucky. Includes a list of the cabins and campers with a characteristic of each. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1951-07-14 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) Jews Jewish children Jewish youth Jewish camps Camps Children Youth Miller, Jerry Stein, Sara Wolf, Judy Friedlander, Fadel Bell, Paul Kreitman, Leon Berman, Jane Barish, Helen Goldstein, Irvin Sagerman, David Faith Judaism Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource newspaper Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Still Image Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. 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The hikes, games, social affairs, and all the rest have been enjoyable, and in the coming weeks we hope to have just as much fun. 'Wb will miss those of you who are leaving; those who are just coming, we welcome you and hope that it will prove to be as much fun to you as it has been to us. - George Stern A GLIMPSE AT THE CAMPERS To remember each camper, we will give you an outstanding characteristic of each camper. Issue No. 1 Sharon Morguelan - We’re trying to find a private secretary for her cor­ respondence. Rosalind Parnes - The future re­ presentative to the World Olympics from the United States. Jane’s Cabin -“Young But Eager” Toby Kreitman - All around best camper. Joyce Liebschutz - Our hiking expert. Ruth Shostle - The prettiest smile. Susanne Peinb erg A future Lily Pom Irvin’s Cabin - “The Woodsmen” Kenny Simon - “What time is can­ teen?” Harvey Liebschutz - A dependable camper. John Pachter - Well-liked Bobby Simon - A good camper. Josef. Wells - A mother to stray turtles. Simon’s Cabin - “Chow Hounds” Tom Abeles - Future Rembrandt. Fadel’s Cabin _ “The Beauties” David Traub, Jr. - Future Olympic Debby Sue Er 1 en Greatest swimming champion. girl athlete since Babe Dickerson. Charles Sapoznick - “Domino King* Marlene Liebschutz - A swell Jeff Monsky - Future boxing champ. big sister to cabins 72 Si 7 3. Richard Stern - Future lawyer. Irene Muhr - Her middle name might . as well be Gordon. Syr ell Sapoznick - She is steadily Paul’s Cabin - “Mighty Midgets” Larry Duncan - The best pitcher improving her swimming ability. Roninie Krupp - Super swimmer ■ • Judy’s Cabin - “The Sophisticates” Peter Le.Nord - The quiz kid. Jimmy Mehzin - Our senior camper. Clarice Heller - We give her the Mike Oglesby - Most improved cam­ job of singing instructor for the camp. per. Elaine Levitan - It’s “George” all Tom Oglesby - Speediest hiker. the way. Jeff Schrieber - Small boy, large Mona Garon - Our Esther Williams. camper. �- 2 - A Glimpse At the Campers (Con. from pg. 1) Leon’s Cabin - “The Eager Beavers” Alec Jay Speilberg - “I took 73 dancing lessons from Joe Revell.” Myron Krupp - Lanyard specialist. John LeNord - Let’s play soccer. AlexShostle- “Who doesn’t want his soup?” Dewey vVantz - Now you see him; now you don’t. Gerald Lee Oglesby - Cabin athlete OUR COUNSELLORS Leon Kreitman - Born in Louisville. GoesTtothe U. of~L. Most interesting experience in camp was starting a butter­ fly collection. Paul Bell - Born in Warren, Ohio. Goes to the U. of L. His most interesting event at camp was trying to divide two extra pieces of chicken between eight boys. Simon Plattus - Born in Syracuse, N~Y\ Student at the U. of L. His most interesting event at camp was the night he spent on the tenting grounds du­ ring an overnight hike. Jerry Mi 11 er - Head counsellor. bTX. & M. A., U. of L. Rabbinic student, Hebrew Union College. Most interesting experience in camp was when his Crosley stalled on the way to camp, and he started it by blowing into the gas tank. Irv Goldstein - Born in Louisville. Graduated in elementary education from the University of Kentucky. His most interesting camp experience was making a shelter for a king snake. Helen Barish - Born in Nashville, she goes to theTj. of K. Her most inter­ esting event at camp was her overnight at Morgan’s Cave. Judy Wolfe - Born in China, lived there for 4 years, then moved to India and lived there for 5 years. She goes to the University of Chicago. Her most interesting experience at camp was sleeping on the baseball field in a tent. Janey Berman - Born in Louis­ ville. Attends the U. of L. Her most interesting experience was preparing a meal on an overnight hike. Fadel Friedlander - Born in Gary, Indiana. Her most interesting experience was her trip to Ski Hi. Fadel attends the U. of L. - Mona Garon & Elaine Levitan EXPERIMENTS Are you interested in experiments ? Would you like to put an egg in a Coke bottle, or tie a knot in a bone ? Sounds impossible, doesn’t it? Well, here’s how you do it I To put an egg in a Coca Cola bottle take an egg and put in a cup with vine­ gar. Soak the egg for 48 hours, chan­ ging the vinegar after 24 hours. After the egg has been in the vinegar for 48 hours, enough of the calcium in the egg shell will have been dissolved out to make it possible to put the egg in the Coke bottle. The bone can also be tied in a knot by a similar method. Put the bone in half a cup of vinegar for twelve hours, and then change the vinegar after that, keeping the bone in the vinegar for another twelve hours. After that time the bone should be soft enough to tie knots in them. ____________ -John LeNord______ Bravery Department Paul Bell - Once I hunted a lion with a club, Fadel 1 Fadel Friedlander - Don’t be foolish, Paul. You mean with a club alone ? Paul Bell - Yeah. Ye had 23 members in Hie club. �- 3 - OUR OVERNIGHT One sunny morning Janey’s group who are Joyce Liebschutz, Toby Kreitman, Ruth Shostle and me, decided to go on an overnight trip to the New Tenting Grounds. It thundered and rained just as soon as we arrived there. Then it stopped raining. We finally made a fire and cooked veal chops. They were rare. Morning came. We had eggs, bread, and orange juice. We got ready to go back to camp and that is the story about our overnight trip. It really was fun. - Susanne Weinberg THE TREASURE HUNT On Monday night we had a treasure hunt. The camp was divided into two groups, the blue and the ’white. The captains were (blue) Syrell Sapoznick, (white) Irene Muhr. They were very good captains. The game came out a tie. It was a very big success and we know everyone enjoyed it. - Mona Garon & Elaine Levitan We packed up our equipment about 10:15 and were ready to go at 10:45. On the way back we went a little way into Mor­ gan’s but not too far because the rocks were getting loose. We hiked back to camp from there. When we got back to camp we all agreed that it had been a wonderful overnight. TALL TREE CHIPS The idols of the girls at camp are G. G. and G. S........ Who has all the bubble gum in Cabin 65 and where has it gone? Who will be the next one to fall in love with G. G. and D. K. ? ... What a cook we have in camp this year! I! The food is delicious ... How are the coun­ sellors and their romances this year?... Well, campers, how did you like the gossip column? That’s just about all for now... - Rosalind Parnes AN OVERNIGHT HIKE We left camp Thursday about 5:20 P. M. and hiked to the Tenting Grounds. When we got there we put up our tents quickly so that we wouldn’t get caught in the rain. As we were setting up our tents a car CABIN 67’3 OVERNIGHT came driving up and stopped. It was one of the rangers. They had found a shoe that Kenny dropped. Meanwhile, Irv Our cabin decided to take a hike to Morgan’s Cave on our overnight. Ub star­ tried to start a fire. He couldn’t. He ted out and soon we were at Morgan’s. used a whole box of matches. Only 3 or 4 were left so Harvey tried and star­ After climbing to the cliff above, two ted it with two matches. Then we gather­ of us went right to work setting up ed and chopped wood for the fire. Then the tents under the supervision of our supper was well started. We had meat, counsellor, Fadel, while the other two radishes, carrots, oranges and tomatoes. girls went to look for wood. The meat was really good. Simon’s group then came up and visited us. Wre It was quite late when we started our roasted marshmellows together. We dinner, but we still enjoyed making it. went to sleep around 11:30 and awoke at After that we went into our tents and sang songs. Then we went to-sleep and 2:00 in the morning. We then went back to sleep. About 6:30 in the morning we had a very enjoyable night. The next got the fire going. We started to prepare morning we made our breakfast. It breakfast. We had No. 10 cans and fried tasted good. �An_0 v e r n £ght_ 51 e (Con. from pg. 3) -4 sunny-side-up eggs on the bottom of the cans. We also had oranges, baked beans, and bread and jelly. Then we cleaned up and broke camp. We all had a good time. When we returned to camp we took show­ ers and rested. Then we ate lunch. The members of the group who went on trie hike were: Harvey Liebschutz, Kenny & Robert Simon, Josef Wells, all of Louis vill and Johnny Pachter of Greenwood, Mississippi. - Harvey ' Liebschutz THE PERFECT GIRL CAMPER Hands - Sharon Morguelan Hair - Debby Sue Erlen Eyes - Clarice Heller Nose - Marlene Liebschutz Smile - Ruth Shostle Figure - Toby Kreitman Legs - Mona Garon Personality - Irene Muhr Best Dressed - Joyce Lieb­ schutz Prettiest - Elaine Levitan Prettiest skin - Syrell Sapoznick Rosiest cheeks - Susanne Weinber g Best sport - Rosalind Parnes THE PERFECT BOY CAMPER Hair - Tom xYbles Eyes - Myron Krupp Nose - Jeff Schreiber Smile - Ronny Krupp Build - J erry Oglesby Personality - George Stern Best Dressed - John LeNord Handsomest - Gordon Gutmann Cutest Freckles - Mel Goldman Cutest Dimples - Alec Spielberg Prettiest Skin - David Kahn Best Sport - Josef We Ils THE CHUCKLE BOX “•id you hear — about the moron who cut off his arms so he could wear a sleeveless sweater ? Ale? Shostle - Irv, I can’t eat this cot­ tage cheese. It has a splinter in it. Irv Goldstein - What do you expect for one meal? The whole cottage? Things Most Appreciated This First Camping Session The care taken to provide us with the best possible equipment on our over­ night hikes. Our sing sessions and games in the mess hall. Swimming, of course, under Paul, Fadel & Susie’s watchful eyes. Fanny Rae’s wonderful - and we mean wonderful - cooking. All our counsellors. Probably the best staff of counsellors in any camp. Our religious services. Short, in­ teresting, with everybody in camp getting into the act. The oldest boys and the oldest girl campers, who pitched into so many activities and helped the younger kids. And, last but not least, the Ad Building bunch, Dave & Jerry, who planned a swell two weeks for us! �- 5 - CAMP ACTIVITIES FOR THIS PERIOD NATURE REPORT This year our nature activities have been very interesting. The nature cabin had many interesting exhibits. Thanks to Cabin 72 & Cabin 73, who helped fix it up^ and our counsellors, especially, Helen — who worked so hard to make our nature cabin something we would all like. The nature cabin this period had rocks, leaves, insects, and various animals, including frogs and toads. In the area around camp we had a group of interesting visitors, a family of skunks. At first we thought that we might have some of the skunks’ perfume, but, after a vzhile, they became friends with them. Even though we still kept at a distance, we weren’t as afraid of them as we were at first. There were also some harmless snakes in the area, and Irv captured one and put it in a pen. This year began in a very interesting manner for those of us who are interested in the great resour­ ces of nature about us at Camp Tailtrees. THIS is the first issue of the Tailtrees Tower. We are deeply appreciative of all the attempts by the campers. XREPORT FROM ONE OF OUR CHOIR MEMBERS I had a very good time in the choir the first period. The choir, which consisted of nearly one third of the camp, sang in every Sabbath service and learned new songs. At the end of the period we had a party with refreshments and gifts. The choir needs some older boys and girls this next period. If anyone is interested in singing and in having a good time, I would advise them to join the choir. I know you will have a good time. I did 1 ___________ - Dewey Wantz EVENING PROGRAMS We had a good number of original programs this last period. Our first night we had a marshmallow roast, with stories, and songs in the arts cabin. The girls presented a “Girls Night” program another night — and the youngest girls did a beautiful job on a song called “A Little Duck.” Our Friday Nights were begun by ser­ vices with a sermon by the camp rabbi and then by an Oneg Shabbat. One week we had a song contest, and another week we had a Jewish scavenger hunt. All the cabins participated in the Oneg Shabbats. We also added a very beauti­ ful ceremony at the Saturday evening meal, the Havdalah. The camper-couns' lor game started as a runaway for the campers, but the counsellors were cat­ ching up as the game ended, 15-11 in favor of the campers. One of the most popular events at every session in the counselor skit, and this year we had a skit entitled “Camp Talltrees Daze” organized by Paul and M. C.’d by Simon. We had a fine time seeing the campers imitated by the counsellors. Among the acts was a take-off on reville by the Ad Building bunch, Dave & Jerry. Tlien, Irv did a wonder­ ful takeoff on the whittling of a totem pole. The counsellors showed a day in camp from morning to evening. We looked forward very eagerly to our evening programs this period. THE SWIMMING POOL Our excellent swimming staff this year, Paul Fadel & Susie, gave many of the campers an opportunity to learn how to swim and to qualify for higher swim­ ming classifications. Our swimming Staff of the Tailtrees Tower instructors were very patient with us George Stern, Susanne Weinberg, Mona find tried to help us with our swimming Garon, Elaine Levitan, Harvey Liebschutz, at every opportunity they had. The John LeNord, & Dewey Wantz. swimming pool was, as always, one of our most popular activities. � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. Digitization supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /> Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Jewish Community of Louisville museum collections and records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1945-1968 Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. BD J59 Folder 0538 Item 005 Title A name given to the resource Tall Trees Tower, First Camping Period, June 23, 1951 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Camp Tall Trees Stern, George Weinberg, Susanne Garon, Mona Levitan, Elaine Liebschutz, Harvey LeNord, John Wantz, Dewey Parnes, Rosalind Description An account of the resource Newspaper produced by Jewish counselors and campers of Camp Tall Trees in Meade County, Kentucky. Includes a list of the cabins and campers with "an outstanding characteristic of each camper," and biographical sketches on the counselors. Headlines include "Experiments," "Bravery Department," "The Treasure Hunt," "An Overnight Hike," "The Perfect Boy Camper," "The Chuckle Box," "The Perfect Girl Camper," "Things Most Appreciated This First Camping Season," "Nature Report," "A Report from One of Our Choir Members," "Evening Programs," and "The Swimming Pool." Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1951-06-23 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) Jews Jewish children Jewish youth Jewish camps Camps Children Youth Food service Swimming--Training Physical education and training Stern, George Weinberg, Susanne Garon, Mona Levitan, Elaine Liebschutz, Harvey LeNord, John Wantz, Dewey Kreitman, Leon Bell, Paul Plattus, Simon Miller, Jerry Goldstein, Irv Barish, Helen Wolfe, Judy Berman, Janey Friedlander, Fadel Parnes, Rosalind Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource newspaper Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Still Image Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. BD J59, Folder 538, Jewish Community of Louisville records, 1896-2022, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright This Item is protected by copyright and/or related rights. 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To learn about this process, visit https://filsonhistorical.org/collections/order-reproductions/ https://d1y502jg6fpugt.cloudfront.net/34455/archive/files/62440866e36e5f0838ed05c6b562ef27.pdf?Expires=1779321600&Signature=VXsOH5s-4H5%7E9KLHhZAgh%7EbpClaWhkKV2H%7EJxs3MUzyb8d2z8OP0j0tUWLwLH34EO4x9apruC--jUJ3iTmsD2k4Shon9nDkSBokvrjbxbbJCDUPxzqip6aoMkENJIHaUwYYjAGfGW0%7Ex8S1EcBxTzhhEnmifeMA8PzZ-z2StbnzbbZx0ASrfvFq6aB%7EnrxI1XMWhkQD%7EOjNkwS5GLCczjii3Runkbh0snv9KuCEuNznZYyxEYTjYskenIEaT8347MM%7EvoyqZIgEXL10X58oyg5DbPhuSQSHEeoRPuAixFbDcsbBcOFnJZAnM2wsFJGf0nNtVJwUlL0a%7E6MRZW-Dcbw__&Key-Pair-Id=K6UGZS9ZTDSZM 5ae762ecf9ce105395faee2857ce1daa PDF Text Text .for a summer of fuit— RICCAREE CAMP June 19 - July 28 CAMP TALL TREES June 11 - July 28 729 So. Second - Louisville, Ky. - JA. 7164 1950 �RICCAREE___________________________________ (LOUISVILLE, KY.) Camping is fun at Rlccaree - a large variety of things to do, to see, and learn; and In the friends with whom all this Is to be done. Boys and girls enjoy the learning of group living and recreational skills In small groups of their own age and sex. These are combined, whenever possible, for coeducational ^■activity. \( v STAFF...each group Is guided by a mature and understanding counselor. All of the counselors have experience In working with groups, and either have completed, or are working on a college education. There will be no junior counselors. “SHEN....June 19 through.July 28 Mondays through Fridays from 9 a.m. to 4:30 P.m. WHERE...at all available facilities in and around Louisville Including parks, playgrounds, pools and the "Y". TRANJSRURT7iTrOK;rps-provided for trips away from the "Y". \/ FOOD.... a full lunch and an afternoon snack are provided dally. Jewish dietary laws are strictly1 observed. '/REGISTRATION..for boys and girls between the ages of 6 & 12. FEE. . .for members - $7.50 ... for non-members - $8.00 THIS MUST BE PAID ONE WEEK IN ADVANCE. CAMP LIMITED TO 60 CAMPERS Mrs.Marvin Krlchman, Chairman Mrs. Estelle Handler, Camp Director Pauline Pearson - For further information To provide your child with the joys an reserve a place by promptly retur �TALL TREES (OTTER CREEK PARK) The 27th year of outdoor camping for YMHA members Is being of­ fered this year at Camp Tall Trees-ln a beautiful natural wooded section In the Otter Creek Recreation Area. The camp­ ers live In small cabin units. A well rounded program to sat­ isfy the needs of the Individual camper Is provided for happy wholesome experience In a democratic living situation. STAFF. ..the counselors have been chosen with great care in order that the camper may have the benefit of ade­ quate supervision. Each counselor has had-*experlence In camping and emphasis Is upon Individual care. Medical attention is provided for campers. WIEN....June 11 through July__23 There'are three two week periods. TRANSPORTATION.. all campers will leave'Ey train in a group under the supervision of counselors. Parents will be notTTIed of’time and fare. FOOD....the food served Is of the highest quality and Is prepared by expert chefs. Jewish dietary laws are strictly observed. REGISTRATION.. for boys and girls from 9 to 15 years of age. FEE.......... for members - $?5.00 for a two week period. non-members - $40.00 for a two week period. FEES MUST BE PAID ONE WEEK IN ADVANCE. CAMP LIMITED TO 48 CAMPERS Abe B. Berman, Chairman David Sagerman, Camp Director son - Camp Registrar atlon - call JAckson 7164 oys and advantages of a camping vacation, returning registration blank and fee. For �AT BOTH CAMPS PROGRAM Emphasizes cooperative planning - group projects - out-of-door summer activities - new skills - new experiences - children are encouraged to enter all of these for fun. SWIMMING...Instruction is thorough. Safety Is taught and demon­ strated by the Red Cross Life Savers on our staff. CAMPING.... hiking, exploring, cookouts, overnights, nature study, compass, trail signs, crafts, etc. These activities provide the city child with his introduction to the country and natu­ ral surroundings. CRAFTS.......... all types of art and creative crafts are stimulated, using a variety of materials like wood, leather, paints, clay, metal, felt, cork, nature crafts, etc. SPORTS.......... phildren love to be active and improve their skill In gamers; basketball, softball, badminton, boxing, archery, volley­ ball, etc. . JEWISH FOLK LORE..we tap our rich heritage of songs, dances, stories and ethical values. Religious services are held in both camps. DRAMATICS... camp lends itself to this expressive form, skits, Imitations, Informal dramatizations, makeup, costuming and ef­ fects, and camp fires, as well as plays, have their place.. NEWSPAPER... as part of our efforts to encourage self-expression and participation, the paper Is an outlet tc those who like to write, for others It provides the record of their fun. MUSIC............... our camps are singing camps, parodies are made up, and many old folk songs are popular. Bring your musical Instru­ ments to camp. DANCING. Social and Folk Dancing. . PHOTOGRAPHY. SPECIAL ACTIVITIES These, and many ether activities offer rich possibilities for a well-rounded program for a full summer of fun. Lewis D. Cole, President Aaron S. Schreiber, Executive Director A COMMUNITY CHEST AGENCY 4oo rover design prepared by � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. 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Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1950 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Young Men’s Hebrew Association (Louisville, Ky.) Camp Riccaree Louisville (Ky.) Kentucky--Louisville Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) Jews Jewish children Jewish youth Jewish camps Camps Children Youth Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource brochure Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Still Image Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. 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Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. 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Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 2022.16.2 Title A name given to the resource Camp Tall Trees banner, circa 1950s-1960s Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Jewish Community Center (Louisville, Ky.) Description An account of the resource Cream colored cloth banner with appliqued blue letters reading "Tall Trees JCC." Images of a male figure, a star of David with a tree inside of it, and a female figure--all made of blue cloth--are also appliqued on the front of the banner. The Louisville Young Men's Hebrew Association and its successor the Jewish Community Center held 2-3 week overnight summer camps at Camp Tall Trees in Meade County, Kentucky, about 35 miles from Louisville. In 1966, a section of Otter Creek Park was renovated and opened as Camp Ben F. Washer, the successor to Camp Tall Trees. Digitization supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource circa 1950s-1966 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Jewish Community Center (Louisville, Ky.) Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) 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Title A name given to the resource Jewish Summer Camps, 1945-1968 Description An account of the resource Brochures, newspapers, reports, and textiles representing summer camps operated by the Young Men's Hebrew Association and the Jewish Community Center of Louisville. Digitization supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /> Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Jewish Community of Louisville museum collections and records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1945-1968 Physical Object An inanimate, three-dimensional object or substance. Note that digital representations of, or surrogates for, these objects should use Moving Image, Still Image, Text or one of the other types. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 2022.16.1 Title A name given to the resource Camp Tall Trees pennant, circa 1950s-1960s Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Jewish Community Center (Louisville, Ky.) Description An account of the resource Cream colored felt pennant with blue trim and strips of felt on the left side, a tall tree in blue, and the text "Camp Tall Trees" in blue. On the back is an ink stamp in green with the text "The Felt Crafters / Emblematic Sportswear for Club-Camp-Campus / Factories - Plaistow, N.H. / Made in U.S.A." The Louisville Young Men's Hebrew Association and its successor the Jewish Community Center held 2-3 week overnight summer camps at Camp Tall Trees in Meade County, Kentucky, about 35 miles from Louisville. In 1966, a section of Otter Creek Park was renovated and opened as Camp Ben F. Washer, the successor to Camp Tall Trees. Digitization supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource circa 1950s-1966 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Young Men’s Hebrew Association (Louisville, Ky.) Meade County (Ky.) Brandenburg (Ky.) Kentucky--Brandenburg Kentucky--Meade County Camp Tall Trees Otter Creek Outdoor Recreation Area (Ky.) Jews Jewish children Jewish youth Jewish camps Camps Children Youth Leisure Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource pennant Type The nature or genre of the resource Physical Object Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived 2022.16.1, Jewish Community of Louisville, Inc., Museum Collection, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright This Item is protected by copyright and/or related rights. You are free to use this Item in any way that is permitted by the copyright and related rights legislation that applies to your use. 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"; " ~ 1 . --- · · :.:..: -::; . h1ff~p: ��\ . ·,; -;, , ., , ; 1 .. ~ -::• r � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource The Holocaust and the Ohio Valley, 1920, 1933-1990s Description An account of the resource This collection consists of documents and photographs related to Jewish experiences in the Holocaust and World War II, Jewish American efforts to support refugees, and historical memory of the Holocaust in Kentucky and Southern Indiana. This digitization project is in partnership with the Louisville Ballet's <em><a href="https://www.louisvilleballet.org/a-time-remembered/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Time Remembered</a> </em>performance, which marks the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau. <div><br />Holocaust-era family documents center on the Wolff, Levy, and Ackermann families who escaped to the United States from France and Austria, and ultimately settled in Louisville. Passports provide photographs of the family members and track their movements through countries. Letters document their efforts to navigate the administrative barriers to passage, and the tragic fate of relatives who were not approved to leave.<br /><br />Records from the National Council of Jewish Women, Louisville Section document the organization's activist work in fundraising for and directly serving refugees in the city, and political organizing around national immigration policies and economic boycotts of German-made goods. The collection includes sample correspondence from national organizations and individuals who supported and were against Zionism in response to the violent antisemitism of the Holocaust. <br /><br />The final items in the collection document Holocaust memorial events in the 1990s. Invitations, photographs, scripts, press releases, and articles represent the memorialization work of the Jewish Community Center, Jewish Community Federation of Louisville, <span>Louisville Ballet, Louisville Orchestra, and other  organizations.</span></div> <br />This project was generously supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><a href="https://jewishheritagefund.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /></a> Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1920, 1933-1990s Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. A L668 Folder 06 Item 03 Title A name given to the resource Eugénie Baer Hirsch passport, 1947-1952 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource France Description An account of the resource French passport for Eugénie Baer Hirsch (1880-1967), a French Jewish woman. She was married to Jacques Hirsch and the mother of Denise Hirsch Wolff (1909-2000). She immigrated to the United States and moved to Louisville, Kentucky, where her daughter had moved during World War II. Blank visa pages were not scanned. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1947-1952 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1940s 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Hirsch, Eugénie Baer, 1880-1967 France Emigration and immigration Immigrants Women World War, 1939-1945 Jews Jewish families Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource passport Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Still Image Language A language of the resource fra Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. A L668, Folder 6, Levy-Wolff Family Papers, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright This Item is protected by copyright and/or related rights. 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Title A name given to the resource The Holocaust and the Ohio Valley, 1920, 1933-1990s Description An account of the resource This collection consists of documents and photographs related to Jewish experiences in the Holocaust and World War II, Jewish American efforts to support refugees, and historical memory of the Holocaust in Kentucky and Southern Indiana. This digitization project is in partnership with the Louisville Ballet's <em><a href="https://www.louisvilleballet.org/a-time-remembered/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Time Remembered</a> </em>performance, which marks the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau. <div><br />Holocaust-era family documents center on the Wolff, Levy, and Ackermann families who escaped to the United States from France and Austria, and ultimately settled in Louisville. Passports provide photographs of the family members and track their movements through countries. Letters document their efforts to navigate the administrative barriers to passage, and the tragic fate of relatives who were not approved to leave.<br /><br />Records from the National Council of Jewish Women, Louisville Section document the organization's activist work in fundraising for and directly serving refugees in the city, and political organizing around national immigration policies and economic boycotts of German-made goods. The collection includes sample correspondence from national organizations and individuals who supported and were against Zionism in response to the violent antisemitism of the Holocaust. <br /><br />The final items in the collection document Holocaust memorial events in the 1990s. Invitations, photographs, scripts, press releases, and articles represent the memorialization work of the Jewish Community Center, Jewish Community Federation of Louisville, <span>Louisville Ballet, Louisville Orchestra, and other  organizations.</span></div> <br />This project was generously supported by the Jewish Heritage Fund.<br /><br /><a href="https://jewishheritagefund.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="https://jewishheritagefund.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" alt="jhfe-logo-leftaligned-color@2x.png" width="306" height="58" /></a> Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1920, 1933-1990s Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. A L668 Folder 05 Item 11 Title A name given to the resource Eugénie Baer Hirsch carte d'identité, 1952 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource France Description An account of the resource French identity card of Eugénie Baer Hirsch, a Jewish woman. She was married to Jacques Hirsch and the mother of Denise Hirsch Wolff (1909-2000). Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1952 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Subject The topic of the resource Hirsch, Eugénie Baer, 1880-1967 France Women Jews Jewish families Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource identification card Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Still Image Language A language of the resource fra Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. A L668, Folder 5, Levy-Wolff Family Papers, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright This Item is protected by copyright and/or related rights. You are free to use this Item in any way that is permitted by the copyright and related rights legislation that applies to your use. 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Chin, Roosevelt, 1933-2007 Social settlements Description An account of the resource Photograph of children and faculty at the Louisville, Kentucky Cabbage Patch Settlement House and arranged around a table; they appear to be replicating the last supper. They are in costume. The picture is not dated. In interviews, lifelong Cabbage Patch faculty member Roosevelt Chin claimed that the Cabbage Patch would put on multiple extravagant Bible story plays on holidays. These plays would be written by Roosevelt Chin and Mrs. John R. Green, who ran the Cabbage Patch Sewing School. Sceneries would by constructed by Roosevelt Chin and the Sewing School children; the costumes would be made from scraps collected from rummage sales by the Sewing School children. 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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Cabbage Patch football team, 1956 Subject The topic of the resource Segregation African American children Kentucky--Jefferson County Kentucky--Louisville Social services Christians Christian life Cabbage Patch Settlement House (Louisville, Ky.) Athletes Sports White children Description An account of the resource A photograph of the Cabbage Patch Settlement House football team, dated 1956. The team includes both Black and white children. The Cabbage Patch Settlement House desegregated their football team in the 50s. In interviews, the lifetime Cabbage Patch worker Roosevelt Chin claimed that the Cabbage Patch was "the very first" youth group in Louisville to desegregate. One member of this desegregated football team, Sherman Lewis, would go on to become a Super Bowl winning offensive coach. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1956 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource black-and-white photograph Type The nature or genre of the resource Still image Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1950s Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cabbage Patch Settlement House Photograph Collection, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 019PC48 folder 05 https://d1y502jg6fpugt.cloudfront.net/34455/archive/files/c7a3bf9132e662b98b1608ea44959a57.pdf?Expires=1779321600&Signature=Q14To3Nj4NQ5tyy9IVNvUo4EGCpaPOKfm-zyfs6VqYs5NSwzkEt6c5MycOmUOlTpFTQdw8qRS4zmZDoXKVvAMe3oJ2ccCxGUUjRfiesDtQN%7ESE09KYkwXgH2E-J%7EJiS5oTbmdzE4g9zxacVsnGDRwTHwo3lP0D8DY5KCz0fs7xiecuGcXtawrdGTminHyQXYuDD78asCeh5HBvscNBvuiw%7E0dQY527g3vPp2WJkrBG%7EjbXY-R6NrWYXVcdeYR1MrdO9ed%7ErlttBZJlFKY7lThJViUdW-sfsM-KTS44XldjOiYSwZUEJm-hUCGN-OYwvWIww8HUfMkQNPD0EW0VgSzg__&Key-Pair-Id=K6UGZS9ZTDSZM 2685be6e98dacf765c59874eab3554d2 PDF Text Text An Interview with Roosevelt Chin Following is the transcript of an interview with Roosevelt Chin that was recorded in three sessions in the Spring of 2002. The motivation behind these interviews was the strong feeling, on behalf of myself and many others involved with the Cabbage Patch Settlement House, that Chin's was a unique and special story that needed to be recorded. Having grown up at the Patch and served as its employee for over fifty years (!), Chin and the Patch are about as inextricably linked as a man's life and an organization's can be. So in a sense, this is the Patch's story as well as Chin's. While words can only do so much to capture the essence of a man's life or an organization, I think that these words, Chin's own, do an admirable job of achieving this. What emerges from these pages is the story of a man whose life walk has been one of service, humility, and most importantly, love. In this world where the headlines are full of people chasing their own selfish dreams, Chin stands in refreshing contrast as a man whose life has been marked by an overriding concern not for himself, but for others. What struck me throughout our interview was that Chin was a man who sincerely, deeply cared for the wellbeing and improvement of those around him. His words belied a deep concern for others. Just as the Cabbage Patch seeks to be the expression of the One who loved us first, so Chin's life has been an example of that love. An interviewer's greatest fear is that his or her questions will be met with awkward silence or terse answers. This fear was quickly put to rest as I began to interview Chin. As you will see from the following pages, all I had to do was to ask a question and Chin would usually pour forth with a wonderful stream of enthusiastically expressed recollections, memories and thoughts. I can only characterize my experience as an interviewer as delightful. Beyond Chin's willingness to talk freely, it was simply fascinating to hear his story. I finished each session in anxious anticipation of the next. A final word of thanks to Dollie Johnson, who put her transcription skills to the test in deciphering some less than perfect cassette recordings. Her diligence and perseverance in the task were much appreciated. Sloane Graff SG: What is your name? Chin: My name is Roosevelt Chin. SG: Is that your full name? Chin: Full name. SG: Tell me a little about your background and how you got to Louisville. Chin: My mother and father are from Canton, China. There is no Canton, China anymore; they've change names. It was a match marriage. They never saw �each other until they got married. I think she was 16 and he was 19. And they came over to Seattle in 1920. Then they went to Chicago - that's where my grandfather lived. Interesting side bit - my grandfather was the head of the Chinese Tong Gang. In fact years later he was assasinated in the streets of Chicago by Al Capone. So when my mother and father arrived in Chicago, thinking they would work in Chicago, my grandfather said, "Hey I just won a restaurant in Louisville, Kentucky through my black market payment..." SG: Was this your father's father? Chin: Yes, paternal grandfather. So he gave the restaurant to my mother and father who had no idea what to do with it; didn't even know where Kentucky was. In 1921, they opened up a restaurant here in Louisville, and that's how we all ended up in Louisville. SG: What year was that? Chin: That was 1919. The restaurant was at the Third and Walnut Street, which is now Muhammad Ali. It was diagonal from the Pendennis Club. The restaurant only lasted a couple of years. What happened was one of the cooks was filling up soy sauce, which was pitch black, you know, a barrel of soy sauce. And he is leaning over dipping out the soy sauce when a waiter walked by behind him and put his hands on his shoulders just to say hello. Well, when the waiter looked in the soy sauce and saw the reflection of a face of the a cook, he threw his arms up and said: "This place is haunted!" So he runs and tells all his other fellow workers that the place is haunted ... that he saw a face in the soy sauce. Well, the Chinese are very superstitious and they refused to work. So my father, new to the business, not knowing a lot of English, said, "well I believe it is." So he closed the restaurant up. About a year later he opened one up on 4th and Jefferson, right where the Hyatt Hotel is. SG: What kind of place was that? Chin: Three stories. The restaurant was on the second floor. There were eight in the family. I had one brother, four sisters and my mother and father. And he ran the restaurant on the second floor; we lived on the third floor. Uh, during the war when all the food was rationed, and all the sugar and meat and everything was rationed, people would go to the restaurants once they ran out of rationing stamps, because the restaurants had unlimited supply of food. And they would come to the restaurant, and of course the soldiers from Fort Knox would come over on weekends. And my father announced to us, "hey we no longer need to live in town, we're moving out to the suburbs." This is 1948. So we moved out to first and Hill Street which we thought was the suburbs. And I attended _ _ __ Hall, which is now Manual High School. My brother also attended. And one day he came up to me and he said, "hey, I found a place where we can go play �basketball", and it was the Cabbage Patch. So my brother found the place first and then I came. SG: What was his name? Chin: Richard Chin. And so my whole family got involved in the Cabbage Patch . And Miss Marshall kind of took my family under her wing and any time there was something that needed to be done, she would see that our family was taken care of. Couple of little old side things. We used to play catch down in the second floor restaurant on fourth and Jefferson, and we would kind of really get in the way of the diners. This white-haired old lady said, "These little Chinese kids are bothering every body. Where is their mother?" And so the waiter told her, "she lives upstairs on the third floor; and that's where they live." And she said, "Well, I'm going up there and speak to her, their mother." And of course, we were kinda not taken back, for we knew my mother couldn't speak English. How can she tell on us, you know, how can the lady go up there and tell on us if she, if my mother couldn't speak English. Well, the lady went up there, and we followed behind, kinda you know, full of ourselves, wow she's going to get a big surprise when she meets my mother and finds out my mother can't speak English! Well, it turned out, the lady spoke Chinese! She had been a missionary in China and she convinced my mother that all six of us needed some kind of organized activity. So she took us all down to Walnut Street Baptist Church on third and St. Catherine, enrolled us in the vacation bible school, and because of that action my whole family were Christians. SG: What were they before? Chin: Uh, probably Buddhist, whatever, we didn't know. Since she couldn't speak English and we couldn't speak Chinese there was very little communication between my mother and the rest of family. We would have to go through my father who could speak English since he worked the restaurant, or some of the cooks who learned how to speak English, and of course all the waiters could speak English. And they became our interpreters. The only thing that is common in the Chinese language, there are so may dialects, is the written word. The written word doesn't change although the dialects get so extreme, one province can't understand another province, but the written word is the same throughout. But we couldn't write. So we really had a hard time communicating with my mother. SG: Now, how old were you then at this point? Chin: Uh, I was, well when we moved into this neighborhood in '48, I was 14. I first came to the Cabbage Patch I guess when I was 15, I guess. So what happened was, we all went to Walnut Street. Our first Sunday school teacher was Miss Nausbaum. The little children's activity building is named after her. �When my mother died in 1990, a cousin from New York went through all her belongings, which were all written in Chinese; we couldn't understand anything. And he said, "Here's one book you ought to hold on to." And we said, "well we don't want her books, we can't read Chinese." You know, it's meaningless to us. And he said, "Well, this is a Chinese Bible." And we had no idea that she was a Christian! Because,again, she never spoke English. Well, we could speak pig Latin English, but not formalized English, so we really couldn't understand her or anything. But even though the children were all Christian, we just assumed that she was Buddhist or something. SG: So she never really communicated ... Chin: No. So all these years, she was a Christian and we didn't know it. And he looked at the Bible verses, and they were the same verses, you know John 3: 16, the 23 rd Psalm, that was underlined. So that was a nice relief to know that she was a Christian without the rest of the family knowing it. So we came over here in '48, when I first came to the Cabbage Patch. I got involved playing basketball mostly. And I remember Miss Marshall used to meet us at the door and we'd sign our names and go into the gym. And she would say, "Well, we can't open the gym just yet. We have to sweep the gym floor." And she would have her part time janitor who also was a janitor at the Baptist Hospital; he would do the gym floor. But it wasn't a top priority with him. Doing the maintenance of the rest of the building was more important. So we would volunteer, "Can we sweep the floor so we can play basketball?" She said, "Yes, the broom is in there." We would get that big wide broom and sweep the whole gym floor. Well it got to the point where there were many afternoons when we couldn't get into the gym because no one swept the floor. So I started volunteering. I told Miss Marshall that I don't mind sweeping the floor at the very beginning because all I'm here for is to play basketball, not for the pool, arts and crafts or anything else. So she let me sweep the gym floor and the kids would get after me - "Hurry up, why are you doing it so slow for - we want to play basketball." So finally, I told her "Why can't I come early and have the gym all ready before we open up." And she told me, "Well if you want to come early I'll let you in and you can have the whole gym all to yourself and you can clean up." And I was so conscientious about it. Because I wanted to play basketball, and all my peer group didn't want me to procrastinate in sweeping the floors, you see. So I would do it ahead of time, and that must have impressed her because she asked me if I wanted to do some odd jobs around here - mostly emptying garbage cans. Back then we could burn garbage; we would take it out in the back and burn it. And she would have people stand there and watch the fire so that the ashes wouldn't get out of control and float over to somebody's garage. But once the gym opened, everybody would run back into the gym and nobody would watch it. But I was conscientious enough to stand there and tend to it until it died down. And she noticed that. She said to me, "You're the only one that I can count on to watch this fire. I don't want to burn the neighborhood down." So I think those two things - sweeping the floor and focus on my task impressed her enough that when there was a need for another �staff member, and that was when Charles Dietsch went into the Korean War, his boot training, she asked me if I would take over his softball team. SG: Around what age were you? Chin: Uh, '53, I was 20; 19 or 20. Just got out of Male High School, was going to U. of L. But all the other years before that I was volunteering, you know, doing odd jobs for her, but not formally on the staff. And Dietsch and I knew each other at High School, Male High School. When he left for the Army, that's when I started working and I've been there ever since. So '53 was my official first year of being paid. Well that makes, been here what, 54 years now. Long time. We used to laugh about that, how Miss Marshall was here all these years and we would say, "No one is ever gonna stay in a place this long." But you know, the years kind of a went by pretty fast; quickly. And I think it's because of the variety of things that I did here. There isn't a department or an activity that I haven't been in charge of, including day care, including administration, arts and crafts, the camping, all the athletics. So I think that variety is certainly one of the reasons that I have never burned out. Because working with young people and working with at risk families is really stressfu I. But I seem to have a pretty, put a good view, overall view; the little small battles don't bother me. When I see a kid do something bad, or a family doesn't respond, it doesn't bother me and I think that's because I've been here enough years to know that you don't see immediate results in some of the things that you do. SG: Right. Chin: So I don't take all the negative things home with me because I know in time, we will reach that family or reach that person. SG: I would like to come back to your childhood. Was there much of a ChineseAmerican community in Louisville then? Chin: Yes, there was I think four other families but they were all Chinese hand laundries, they were all downtown, and my father had the only Chinese restaurant. And he was sort of like the head of the Chinese community. Probably from his reputation of his father in Chicago, because every body knew his father was the head of the Chinese Tong gang. So I guess that was like the don, you know, the Mafia. And so no one would open a Chinese restaurant as long as my father had one. But you know, the minute he died we had more Chinese restaurants in Louisville. But even two of the Chinese laundry families opened up restaurants one was the Howcal - Laura, she grew up with me in childhood - but they stayed �a laundry until my father died, out of respect for him. No one would go into the restaurant business until after he died. SG: When did he die? Chin: In 1952 SG: I'm also curious to hear about the other people in your family. Where are they now? Chin: Yeah. My brother, who also grew up here at the Cabbage Patch, is retired, but he was a state senator here in Kentucky. He went in with Ron Mazolli and they were freshman senators together in Frankfort. In fact, that was funny, we took my mother to Frankfort for his inauguration and my mother took a rose and put it on his desk, every legislator had a desk, and we sat up in the balcony for the swearing in. Then afterwards, she told my father that she had no idea what was going on. But she knew that it was something important and so she went. But he was state senator. I had four sisters. All six of us graduated from college. My oldest sister, who is deceased, was the head of the copyright department at the Library of Congress in Washington. SG: What was her name? Chin: Elizabeth May Chin. And the thing about it, she started out at the public library working in the audio-visual department, and they talked her into pursuing that as a career and she went to, back then it was Nazareth, which is now Spalding College. Then the Catholic University in Washington, and got in with the Library of Congress and was there for years and years. I had a next oldest sister, Martha; she went to the Art Institute in Chicago. Graduated from the University of Louisville then had a mental illness, schizophrenic problems, and then so she didn't work until her death. She just kind of, uh, she just really couldn't. Back then, you took them to Lakeland. And they gave electric shock treatments. Now they don't do that anymore but it was really horrible. In a way it kind of turned me into social work. I saw some of the things they were doing to the mental patients. It was really like animals. That always stuck with me cause I'd go weekends and pick up my sister and bring her for home visits and I could see some of the mental patients really mistreated. And they all thought I was a doctor. Lots of doctors and psychiatrists in the state run institutions are Oriental. Cause they can't set up a going practice because of their lack of English and lack of trust from the average population. So they get hired by the state government. So everything one of these patients would see me they would say, "Are you a doctor? Can you change my prescription? I need more pills." And they would tell me how neglected they were. "No body will come and see me. I haven't seen my doctor, you know, in so many months." And I could just see them so inadequately funded, and they were just left on their own. And, the funny thing, when I did my masters field training in Kent School, I was placed at the Central �State Hospital. So I almost made a full circle. Having a sister there, seeing the conditions, and then being placed there. So that was one thing that kind of threw me into the social work field. Just seeing how people were mistreated. My next youngest, the third one, is Millie; she was an English teacher at Pleasure Ridge High School, thirty-five years, finally retired. She was named top ten teachers in the State of Kentucky when she was teaching English. She married Dr. Hagemann who was head of humanities department at the University of Louisville. She was just a secretary who was floundering around with her divorce. Miss Marshall put her up in 520 where our family services department is. She rented the third floor apartment from the minister and let her little boy come to our daycare. She's the one who talked my sister into going into teaching. She really did well in teaching; taught .for thirty-five years. And then I have a youngest sister, Molly, and she married a Cabbage Patcher - they met here. They live out in California - Sacramento. So all four sisters have names that begin with M - May, Martha, Millie, Molly. My brother's is Richard. So when it came time to find another R - Chinese have a hard time saying R. So she couldn't think of another name like Rick or something. And so she looks in the paper, she says I'll pick this name and it was President Roosevelt. SG: I wondered about that. .. Chin: And that was how, you know, I was named Roosevelt. She ran out of names so none of us have middle names. We're all just first and last names. SG: Now what do you like to be called? Chin: Chin. SG: Mr. Chin or Roosevelt? Chin: Just Chin. The only ones that call me Roosevelt are my later acquaintance, all my fellow students at Kent School, U of L, call me Roosevelt. None of my high school friends call me Roosevelt. And some of the guys that I grew up with playing ball here at the Cabbage Patch call me Rosie. But it's just too hard to spell and you know. As the years went on, more and more things were named Roosevelt, you know, highways, different institutions, and a couple, two or three, famous ball players, Roosevelt Greer and Roosevelt Taylor - that brought that name into more prominence so that when I said my name was Roosevelt, no one giggled or laughed or said how do you spell it and all that, you see? But when I was growing up, there wasn't that many things named after Roosevelt. So I kind of shied away from that name. But Chinese often, or Orientals, use the last name as their first name. My father was Chin Ming, not Min Chin. �SG: What was his first name? Chin: It was Jack. His American name was Jack Chin Ming. All the other Chinese cooks would call him Ming but his real name was Chin. SG: Talk a little bit more about your education. Chin: I went to Male High School, got out of there in '51. We were the last all male class. And then went to University of Louisville. I had no idea what I wanted to do. I wanted to do art. I was really good in art but my sister, the one who had the divorce, majored in art at Syracuse and at Ohio State. And of course, you can't make money in art and my father used to say, "No one else is going to spend all that money and study art." There I was, next in line, I was going to go take art. I took pre-med.; I took a lot of other things that were useless for what I was trying to do. And so from '51 to '60 I finally got my degree - it was nine years, and the degree was in art history. And then Miss Marshall kept telling me that I need to do something about social work. She said arts is great for teaching arts and crafts and painting classes but I need you to do more of the things that social work requires - human behavior and all those kinds of things. So I went back to Kent School and received my master's in '69. So it took me eighteen years to complete my college education. I always let the kids know that. That you just don't get in there, get your grades and get out. You really have to push yourself. Of course the reason wasn't because I didn't want to go to school, the reason is because I didn't want to miss anything at the Cabbage Patch. So summer school was out because I was always into the camping trips and everything; fall was out because I was coaching basketball and doing arts and crafts and all the other things. So I really couldn't find a block of time to give up until Miss Marshall really really persuaded me that it's important enough you got to stop everything and do it. So it took me eighteen years to get my master's degree. SG: That's great. It seems like education was an important thing to you ... Chin: Oh, our whole family. I was telling a friend the other day, that in a way it was good but the worst thing about my growing up years is our family was so competitive in grades. I mean, you dared not miss a class, you dared not come up with anything less that an A. If you got a B you were the black sheep of the family. And our whole family really excelled in academics. SG: Were your mom and dad educated? Chin: No. I think my mother might have been, in China. I think her father was the mayor of the province so she was a very prominent family where my father wasn't. �SG: Let's go back to your grandfather - your father's father - when did he come over? Chin: I have no idea. I was just a youngster. My only recollection of him was that he came to Louisville and I remember sitting on his lap and he told me to pound his chest as hard as I could. So I thought, I'll show him how strong I am - so I hit as hard as I could and there was a metal breastplate. He had to wear a bulletproof vest because there was a contract out on his life. I remember that. And then later on he was assassinated right in Chinatown in Chicago. A cousin of mine went to Chicago and was wondering around in Chinatown and happened to mention the name Chin. This man said, "Hey, we've got a shrine for the Chin family." And took him into this little temple and asked him if he wanted to light a candle. All of the names of my grandfather's generation was on this temple wall. So they revered his name. SG: Now I know that sports have always been important to you. Tell me about that. .. Chin: That was the first thing - when I grew up the Neighborhood House was on First and I guess Walnut, where the Brown School is. And I played ball there and the little church on, we used to have a haymarket downtown, so this church was on Jefferson and I guess around Brook Street. And I played basketball there. And I've never played on an indoor court until I went to Hylick Hall, which is Manual, and I played on there ... back then we didn't have middle school we had junior high school ... I guess I played on the seventh and eighth grade team. And then when I discovered the Cabbage Patch it was such a thrill to be inside a gym to play basketball instead outdoors. And that was my main thrust was to excel in something. I'd always been small. We went through a lot of discrimination back in the '40's. I remember during the War, my father who was the head of the Chinese community, made us wear little pins with a cross flag of an American flag and a Chinese flag. And it would say, "I'm Chinese." We hated to wear that, but he said we had to because if they think you're Japanese you may be sent to internment camps, you know. And we would get a lot of, lot of racial things hollered at us. There was a time when you had to return your medal toothpaste tube in order to buy another one. So my mother told me to pick up some toothpaste at Walgreen's and I went there, and I picked up the toothpaste and the pharmacist said, "Where is the discarded one?" And I said, "Oh, I forgot it. Can't I go ahead and get this and bring it back later?" It was just down the street from our restaurant. And he says, "No, you have to go and get it." Almost like punishment for me to forget it. He says, "If it wasn't for you people we wouldn't be at war anyway." So I got that. I remember my sister and I sitting at the Lowe's Theater which is now the Palace - and back then, without television the news of the war came on between movies. And the news would come on and they would show the Japanese fighter planes. People wouldn't boo, they would hiss. They would make a hissing sound. And my brother and sister and I would kind of slink down in our seats hoping no one realized that we were sitting right there - see? But what was bad that after every newsreel, the lights would come on, as intermission for he next movie. And some lady stood up and pointing at �us and said, "Because of you people my son is dead." And here we are just eight or nine years old, and we looked at each other so puzzled - what are you talking about? And we were so embarrassed, we left. So we got a lot of that. And I think that was what drove me into trying to excel in athletics. And so when I have this gym, and since I swept the gym, I was the first one there, and before the crowds came in, I had the gym practically to myself and two or three others. I really worked on my shot, I was obsessed. And there again it goes back to those obsessions of making good grades. That was all we talked about at home was who was not doing well in school. Everything we did was competitive. So that fueled with my desire to excel in something to compensate for me having gone through some intolerance and some people teasing me, I really became proficient in basketball. A couple of my coaches said they've never seen anybody play as well as I did. The only thing I didn't have was the physical body for it. But by the time I was late teens, it was no problem to hit a hundred free throws in a row without missing. I hit fifty-seven three pointers in a row! - behind the foul circle - but back then we didn't know what three pointers were. But it was no problem. It was one of those things like you know, I could do it all but I couldn't play basketball because I didn't have the concept of the game, I couldn't rebound, I couldn't guard anybody, I was just tiny. When people saw me, they wouldn't choose me for the team. But once they knew how well I could shoot, I was always chosen to play on the team. And I think that's why athletics was sort of like a, it compensated for what I felt were deficiencies physically and culturally. And I see that as a way of our kids, so I have really pushed education which is big in my life, and athletics with all these years I've been at the Cabbage Patch. I just thought that was the two vehicles that could really help people move out of whatever situations they were in because it certainly helped me that way. There is a standard talk in my family - "Oh, you're still at that play job. They pay you for playing basketball." And up to I guess about four years ago I still played basketball, all the way into my 50's. I would still get that. By that time I couldn't run, I could just outshoot everybody in horses and twenty-one. SG: Did you play baseball too? Chin: Yeah, I played baseball for Lloyd Redmond. We won national championship in Milwaukee. I think we came in fourth; back in the 50's. So those were the two. Of course I ran track whenever we had track. I tried football at Male but there again, I was just fast; way too little. Tried track at Male. Did play some JV basketball but when we got to the varsity level there was no way I could keep up - they were just so much bigger than me. �I was always the littlest wherever I went; littlest player on the team, littlest person at school. So I think that's why I was obsessed to excel in something like basketball so they couldn't say not only is he little but he's not any good . I read that somebody hired a 78-year-old man to teach, I think Shaquile O'Neal, how to shoot a foul shot. And this man holds the Guinness Record of 2,700 foul shots without a miss. And he doesn't play basketball either. He just goes around giving tours and motivation speeches. So it's really more skill than athletic, like throwing darts I guess or bowling. It got me in trouble one time. I used to over to the park and play basketball and we would gamble. We would play hit or miss. If I hit one, you had to hit. If you didn't hit it, you owed me a quarter. Then you get the next shot. If you hit it, I had to make it and we kept going until someone missed. And I was making ten, fifteen dollars a day. Miss Marshall heard about that and oh, she jumped on me. She said, "You know that's a talent God gave you and you can't use it that way." And I guess I was in my late teens, and I never gambled since. That was a lesson . Well, I didn't realize that I was setting an example and I was staying in that park - I remember one time 'til four in the morning. Some kid was coming back from work, he said, "You're still here?" And I stayed just shooting by myself. I was really obsessed with that. SG: So you spent, I mean as a kid growing up, you spent a lot of time playing basketball! Chin: Yeah, almost all my time. My mother signed me up for some piano lessons. This lady, I can't remember where, towards town, I think the old Weisenger Garbert apartments on third and Broadway. She would give me carfare and I would take my piano book and it didn't get passed the neighbor's hedges and I would hide the piano book and walk over here to play basketball. And I would go back home and tell my mother I went to lessons. But I'd much rather be here. Until this day, I can play one song, the very beginning song that she taught me, and I can't do a thing with the piano except that one song. SG: So your mom never knew ... Chin: She never knew. And my sisters were really good violinists. Lot of the Orientals go into violin. She was really, she was almost concert level, she was really good. In some kind of string quartet. And my brother was a clarinet but I never did anything. I used to laugh about it; well I couldn't have been on Male's band because they don't have piano in the band. So that was my rationale for not taking those lessons. When we were downtown, a lot of the politicians and store business owners came to our restaurant to eat. I remember a lot of prominent people, but at that time I didn't know they were prominent, used to talk about us. And one of them was Leo T. Wolfert who must have been a prominent lawyer in town because he knew Miss Marshall. And later on, he told this story about Miss Marshall. He �said, "All these kids would come to the court house and play on the lawn and so forth." She said, "We would be sitting there on a break and we would give them a penny, give them a nickel to buy candy and those Chinese kids would never take money from any of the lawyers." He said, "We would sit on the park bench at the court house and they would never take any money from us. So we got together and bought some toys and took them to the restaurant and gave them to the father to tell him how well he taught his kids." And Miss Marshall heard that years later and introduced me to Mr. Wolfert who worked at the old Chamber of Commerce at Third and Liberty. But there were a number of people like that who would come to our restaurant and years later would run into me and say, "You're not the Chin family who lived downtown? We used to come to that restaurant all the time." SG: And you mentioned W. K. Stewarts. What connection did you have there? Chin: Just playing there in and out, I just loved to browse in those books. And I was into art so they had art supplies in the back and we used to go there and look at all the art equipment. There were three in our family that really liked to draw. We did a lot of art. In fact, I took some art at the Arts Student League in New York, across from Carnegie Hall, and the Art Academy, and of course the Hite Institute at the University of Louisville. SG: Now when did you do that? Chin: This would be 1956 and 1957. SG: So did you live up there? Chin: Yeah. In fact, my claim to fame is I took calligraphy from Arnold Bank who was at that time, I guess, the.foremost calligraphist in the country. And in 1956, Grace Kelley married Prince Rainier and we helped do the hand-engraved invitations. That was our Art Student League, right across the street from Carnegie Hall. SG: So where did you live in New York? Chin: Well, first in Greenwich Village with all the other artists, but it got so expensive we moved up to the north, West Side. I was on 69 th street and years later, John Lennon got killed on 72 nd street, the Dakota Apartments, right down the street from us. A lot of our friends lived there up in the, where they did "You've Got Mail", that Meg Ryan and Hank, that little garden where they sold the produce, everything was right there 72 nd and Broadway - Central Park West. I had a 4 th floor apartment, no running water, and think I only paid 20 dollars a week. �SG: And then Cincinnati - when were you in Cincinnati? Chin: Uh, the year after that. New York was too far away. I flew home for the Male/Manual Thanksgiving football game. I flew home for Christmas. I flew back for the basketball state tournament and Miss Marshall kept saying, "You can't keep coming back from New York; that's too far away!" And so she finally said well you shouldn't be up that far. So I moved closer - to Cincinnati. In Cincinnati I lived at Eaton Park, right there by the river and we had helped set up exhibits at the Cincinnati Museum. After Cincinnati, I switched back to U. of L., and they said my work was so advanced that, U. of L. Had no art department you see, and so I appeared before a board and they looked at my work and they said, "Well your work is as good as what our seniors' are doing," so they gave me the Art Degree, although I really didn't take art here. SG: What was your primary medium, was it drawing or painting? Chin: Designing. Just advertisements, and ... SG: Commercial sorts of things? ... Chin: Yeah. I did a lot of odd jobs in designing. I did one in the shopping center sign that, well after all these years, I guess it's not there. For a shopping center Swifton, uh, Swifton Center, out there where the Cincinnati Warriors used to play basketball, up in that neighborhood, by Xavier University. And so mine was selected, and I used to go by the shopping center and I'd see my sign there. But that was back in the 50's, I highly doubt it's there anymore. But I did a lot of advertisement design. I did one, well back then it was LP records, long-playing records, 33 1/3, I did an album cover one time. It was mostly competition for students. Whoever came up with the best would get a little stipend and they would use it. It wasn't that I was commissioned to do anything. So that was my art career in Cincinnati. But downtown was really a vibrant place when I first moved away from downtown to move out in this neighborhood. My father really liked Lewis Apple. Apple's used to be the premier men's store chain. He used to be a family friend of ours. Levy Brothers and two or three _others - Roth Jewelry used to be right across from the restaurant. And I always thought years later if I ever needed reference or anything I would call on those people. As it turned out as the years went by, everybody moved out of downtown. We lost track of them. When my father died, we had the China Inn Restaurant on Third between Broadway and Chestnut. My brother was at U. of K., and he said, "I just have one more year. Will you run the restaurant for me?" So I did both. I worked at the Cabbage Patch and I ran the restaurant. And it turned out to be two years. And I learned to do all the cooking, all the marketing, and waited on tables. And after he finished he says; "Now you can go to school and I'll run the restaurant." �So that's when I went to New York. And then when we came back, we were going to divide the business up, and that's when I made the decision that I was going to stay at the Cabbage Patch. But I did have two years of running our Chinese restaurant. SG: Now how much longer did your brother run the restaurant? All the way up until he was elected state Senator in 1970. He had the Lotus restaurant. We had about five restaurants in town. Let's see - the Oriental House on Shelbyville Road, there was Golden Dragon on Dupont Circle, the Lotus on Dixie Highway, the House of Chin on Dixie Highway, plus the three that we had in town. There was a scheme - in order to bring a Chinese immigrant over here they had to have a job. So we would bring all our cousins and whoever needed to come over, that was the passport to get to the United States - you had a job waiting for you. And my brother would train them in running a restaurant, and they would open up there own restaurant. And then my brother would just collect the monthly rental. So a lot of the cooks and owners of these restaurants in Louisville are connected with my brother in the sense that he got them over here and trained them. In fact, the guy from Asiatique, his wife lived at our restaurant and waited on tables. And we lost track of him. Of course he has one of the top restaurants in town. So when I had a birthday my brother and his wife invited me out there to eat. And the cook came out, and of course he knows my brother and he met me. And said that if it wasn't for my brother he wouldn't have gotten into the restaurant business. And uh, I was recruiting a company to help us with Christmas Baskets - a sponsor. So they asked me to come to there office downtown and speak to their group. Well it turned out that one of the spokespersons in that firm was someone who worked at our Chinese Restaurant. So we are always running into people because each generation spreads out. You bring them over, you train them, and then they bring somebody over. Cause once you've have a job waiting for them you can get the visa and work permit to come over here. Yeah, There was no other Chinese Restaurant. We had, at one time, two at one time. The one on 4th and Jefferson, and the one 4th Street next to the Ohio and Kentucky Theater. It was called the Loiyang TeaGarden. There was a variety record shop right next to us. So we had two restaurants at the same time. Then when he closed the one on 4th street he opened the one on Third and Broadway called China Inn. So we've had three downtown. Considering someone who never heard of Louisville, never come to Kentucky, neither one could speak English, and to have a thriving restaurant ... �SG: This week I'd like to talk a little bit more about the Patch. Obviously, it's been a big, big part of your life and just sort of let you talk about the changes you've seen from the time you first came here 'til now. Chin: Yeah, I think I mentioned last time my introduction to the Cabbage Patch. Living downtown and coming out to this neighborhood. Helping to clean the gym so I could get access to it to play basketball. Uh, my first official job, other than the handy jobs that we did, Gary Schaeffer who later became the basketball coach at PleasureRidge Park High School and was selected coach of the year at Kentucky All-stars. He and I would go over to Miss Marshall's residence on Ormsby, I think it was 412 Ormsby, and empty garbage cans. She can converted the three-story building into apartment houses and we used to garbage cans for her. I remember that was one of my jobs. Coming in and checking attendance - kids used to have to sign their name, age and address every time they came in. She would transpose that onto little cards so we could keep attendance on how many times each child came in. I remember doing that and cleaning he gym and watching the garbage burn. I remember those kinds of odd jobs. But my official job began when Charles Dietsch went into the Korean War boot camp. He had a softball team and they were trying to find someone who could coach the team and that's when Miss Marshall asked me if I would coach. I had known Dietsch I guess since we were in junior high school. We were in Male together. And since I was into athletics here it was just a natural thing - would you mind taking the team. And I think that was my official capacity finishing out the season for the 12 and under softball team and then Dietsch went away to the War. And I remember the very first camping experience; it was in '56. Joe Burkes took a group of kids in the back of the bread truck to Washington, D.C. and I remember helping them get ready for it. I wasn't allowed to go because I still had the commitment to the softball team. But I remember the ones who went and I remember the grocery shopping, the planning of the trip. And that was my first indication that some of these trips really take some pinpoint planning. And finally, I think the following summer I was involved in camping. And Mrs. Green, John R. Green, was in charge of camping. She was from Second Presbyterian Church. She was skilled in Girl Scouts. She transformed some of that camping skill into our camps. She asked my if I would help her get her camps ready. I remember things like putting all the supplies into categories so you could find what you needed for breakfast, what you needed for lunch, where the utensils were, where the condiments were, and so forth. She would label the boxes. She would even have the tomatoes in a bushel basket and the ripe ones on top and the ones that were going to be ripe on the bottom so as we use them during the camp you didn't have to handle all the tomatoes, because you knew that the top ones were the fresh ones to use. All the things that she learned through Girl Scouts camps. And that is how we were introduced to so many young ladies, through Collegiate and through Second Church, that came through the Cabbage Patch. Louise Farnsley was one, Nashes all came, Kit Davis, you name them. All the ones who stayed involved with the Cabbage Patch through the years was through that camping program. Mrs. Green told me �that she has tried to find some teenager girls at the Cabbage Patch for role models but she couldn't find any. If they were good role models, they didn't have camping skills. If they had camping skills, they were the kind of girls you didn't want as leaders. Where as, her resources at Second Church youth groups and at the Girl Scouts she was able to find the kind of young people she wanted as role models. So my first camps was really a learning experience. I was brand new at camping. And just watching those girls, Betsy Brewer was another one, they all knew the camp songs, all the Girl Scouts do. So I quickly absorbed all that and of course watching Mrs. Green supervise and plan the whole program was just an eye opener. SG: Would the Girl Scouts go with girls from the Cabbage patch? Chin: The children were Cabbage Patchers and the CIT, counselors in training, were the ones that Mrs. Green recruited. I remember a lot of them were from Collegiate School. And she was the leader of the camp and I would be the activities director. SG: Where would you go? Chin: I remember the first camp was in Versailles State Park which is 75 miles north of Louisville. Then I remember a camp in Lincoln State Park which is near Santa Claus Land in Indiana. In fact, Miss Marshall came to visit that camp and that was the only camp I remember her coming to; to the Lincoln camp. Incidentally, that was the time I first met Virginia Rucker. Mrs. Green couldn't find a cook and this is really a good story - Mrs. Green couldn't find a cook so there was a prayer circle at Second Church, and she mentioned that we were still looking for a cook, we only had a week to find one, and she couldn't bear to see all 90 campers without a good nutritious meal. And she mentioned that in the prayer circle. Afterwards, one of the ladies at the church and said, "I have a housekeeper, a really good cook, a Black lady. Do you want me to ask her if she'd go to camp, it's a pinch, you know, would she come and take care of it?" So we were introduced to Virginia Rucker. She was so good and so taken with the children. I remember later on at some of the campfires, on the final night we would give her her camp cook check and she'd say, "I want to come to the campfire." And she would stand in front of all the children and all the staff and counselor and she would return the check to us. And said that we were doing such a good job with her children meaning the African-American children at our camps and she said, "I couldn't possibly do this job and get paid for it." I wanted her to take this money. And for years and years she wouldn't let us pay her. Later on she brought her granddaughter and the granddaughter evolved into being another cook after her. I think she was our cook for 27 or 28 years. Just through that prayer circle that Mrs. Green did. But every year we went to camp, Virginia was one of the fixtures that was there. And to this day, a lot of the alumni that I run into, when we mention camp, they always ask, "How's Virginia." Of course, she's passed away and they always ask about Mrs. Green. In fact, �when Mrs. Green died I went to her memorial service at Second Presbyterian Church and at this time, Edith Breed was our President. After the service, Mrs. Breed asked, "How did you know Mrs. Green?" And I had to tell her practically everything I had learned as far as camping and scouting was through Mrs. Green. And of course Mrs. Breed arrived on the scene later, but she had no idea that Mrs. Green had such a profound influence on our camping program, and the sewing school, which I didn't have a lot to do with, but is was a big part of our program . Upward to 100 kids, girls, would come one a week and spread out into three different rooms and learn how to sew. And I remember the directors were, Mrs. Green had one, and Mrs. Brewer, and Mrs. Palmer-Ball. The elementary group learned how to do pincushions and potholders, and then they moved up to stuffed animals. The senior group worked on smocks and little dresses and things like that, using the sewing machine. SG: Now when did that kind of die out? Chin: That died out when bussing came around. By the time our kids got bussed back into our neighborhood, it was almost dark. This was Fall and Winter; it would be 4:30, almost 5, and then the same thing with our volunteers. They couldn't come because their children were being bussed and they had to be home when their children came home. So that kind of slowed it down. I remember going to the schools to advertise things like sewing school, arts and crafts, and different programs. And I remember a couple of the principals said that some of our students no longer live in this neighborhood. They are bussed in from other neighborhoods. You have to open up your invitation to everybody, not just the people living by the Cabbage Patch. So that kind of stymied our efforts to publicize because a lot of people, even though the school was just down the street from us, they weren't in our neighborhood and we thought it was a mistake to open it up to all the other neighborhoods too. In fact, it didn't really make that much difference because transportation and distance kind of eliminated them. But we though we would be over-run by some of the other neighborhoods and that would force our neighborhood kids out of the town. As it turned out, that wasn't the real reason. It was distance and transportation that kept them from joining. So we altered our approach, fearing the worse, when the worse really didn't happen. So that kind of helped make it die out too, that and the bussing. But I remember Mrs. Green as one of my very first mentors in the camping program and in the arts and crafts. Mrs. Green had a sister or maybe a sister-in-law, who was an art teacher at Manual, and she would come in and do arts and crafts and I would kind of sit and watch her do it. I remember how she kept pushing that we didn't want the children to be Picassos, because I was very particular that if they didn't do it right I would encourage them to keep working on it. She said, "as long as they put in an effort, we don't criticize whether a tree looks like a tree or not." �And I finally realized that what the children really needed was stroking and praise and encouragement. Particular the art should be way down on the list. I had it backwards and I remember learning that; that arts and crafts isn't buying kits and gluing them together and every finished product looks identical to the other person's. It's more creative and letting the children explore their creativity. And I remember learning that from, there again, Mrs. Green and her contacts. So arts and crafts and camp was strictly a Mrs. Green involvement. And then later on, Jim Cooksy came on board and he was an Eagle Scout so he was really into and I learned a lot of camping from him. So as it turns out, I did about 40 years in a row of camping and really go to be quite an expert. As far as hiking all the way down the Grand Canyon and two weeks in the Yellowstone Park, we did the Appalachian Trail, parts. SG: did you do all that with the Cabbage Patch? Chin: Yeah, Cabbage Patch. We really got good at it. We were all really experts in camping and we kind of invented the camp on tour where you have a final destination like the Grand Canyon but getting there is part of the camping. So we would stop along the way and visit different State Parks and different natural wonders along the way and set up a travelling kitchen, like the old chuck wagon theory. It was always my job to plan the meals for the whole ten-day trip. We really got quite elaborate. People were writing in and asking us how did you fund it, how did you make arrangements so far away that you would be there at a certain time, how did you plan menus that far ahead? People just never did that type of camping. The only out of town camping that we were aware of were people backpacking, self-contained, but not for long durations. So we would go all over the country. We went to Montreal's Expo Fair; we went there, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Mount Rushmore, the Grand Canyons. Each year we would pick out one major place to go and we would I guess take about 20 boys and girls, and volunteers. Two staff would drive - one drove the equipment truck, that was usually me, and one drove the school bus which was usually Dietsch. And we - getting there wasn't the highlight; going there was the highlight and it really worked out fine. That was a concept that was kind of new to us. So camping was, I would guess, the biggest part of my indoctrination in doing things with the Cabbage Patch. Arts and crafts came next and then third was athletics. We were always strong in athletics and Lloyd Redman was always the head coach of doing all the team. Eventually, I moved in doing the young groups, the clinics, the intramural type of teams. I guess I got up to the 15 and under was my strongest suit. And Joe Burkes used to do all the 17 and 18-year-olds. And Redman always did the men's. And I can't remember who did the women's teams. Later on, Dietsch took over the girl's program, but I can't remember who did it when I first came on board; who was coaching the girl's teams. More recently, I ran into Mrs. Sawyer at the Harvey Browne Cabbage Patch Circle Christmas Bizarre, and she told me she used to work there and remembered me as a youngster. She told me that she coached, but that was just so far removed from my camping, I really didn't see �what they were doing in sewing school and I didn't see what they were doing in girl's athletics. Although I know they had teams because Joe Burkes' wife said that she used to play on the softball team and one of my sister's played no the softball team. But I never saw them practice; I never saw one of their games. I did remember seeing basketball in the gym, and it was a funny game where three girls can't pass the half-court line, the other three do all the shooting. You know, the way they play in Iowa, I think, what they call six-man basketball. That's the kind of ball we played; it wasn't full court like the way the boys played. But it was so minor an activity that I don't think I remember sitting through a whole game of any girl's. We were really predominantly boy's athletics. I'm sure that to do girls it was pretty important, but I do remember they had uniforms so it was pretty organized. But camping and the arts and crafts, and the athletics were the ones that I really got involved in. Later on, in the background, I started to involve myself into the social services. I remember Christmas Baskets, I remember we had no place to store the turkeys and the hams and vegetables, so we used the roof between the daycare and game room. We would climb out the window and put everything up there on the roof. Whenever the baskets were ready to be assembled, I would run up to the roof and bring down the turkeys, bring down a bag of oranges, everything that needed to be refrigerated. At that time we only had one refrigerator and that was Miss Marshall's refrigerator. But I remember doing that. I remember gathering all the clothes that came from Second Church and, I don't think Harvey Browne was around then, I don't know who else would be ... oh, First Presbyterian Church, that was Miss Courtney. They would send clothes to us and we would store them in a closet and once a month, Miss Marshall would ask me to make signs that we were having a rummage sale. And I remember going through the neighborhood and tacking the signs up in people's store fronts. We would bring all the clothes down; we would sort it out, women's clothes, men's clothes, children's clothes, household items. She would have a rummage sale. I remember Mrs. Garrell who lived two houses down, and Mrs. Staggerwall who lived next door where the Reece's live. They used to run the rummage sale and that was every month. So I got involved in that mainly because I made the signs and I helped sort out everything, but I didn't do the selling and I didn't do the price tags. But I remember that and I remember the Christmas Baskets and I remember the home visits. Miss Marshall insisted that we go into people's homes. Mrs. Green had this more elaborate visit. She said that she always wanted to establish a home alter - meaning she would find a mantel or console radio and she would put something on top, either a religious picture, the one of Jesus praying on rock, you know, the one that's on the Riverside Church in New York; Coffman I think was the artist. But she would always put something, either a little Bible study, a tract, or something. She would put it in a prominent place in the house and she wou Id make the mother promise to read it to the children. So even back then, Mrs. Green had this home visit concept that you bring the Gospel to the people. I remember I wasn't quite comfortable in doing that, but I remember going in and inviting children to come to the Cabbage Patch for activities. There were several times that I went doing the Christmas Basket deliveries that the family and I would pray together. Mainly �because they were so moved in our efforts. I remember two or three of them, one mother said to me, "can we all kneel down by the Christmas basket and pray." So we did do that and we continued to do home visits, but I think the more intimate religious type of visit is a thing of the past now. It's more now providing crisis assistance, handing brochures of what's going on here at the Cabbage Patch, announcements, reminders, that type of thing. What kind of clinics we're having. As far as the concept of bringing the church to the homes, we haven't done that in many years, unless its impromptu, improvised at a particular time, but that wasn't the goal of doing home visits. I still do a lot of home visiting but it's mostly for seniors, just to provide some services, take them to the doctor, picking up some items for them, medicines, so forth. But the original concept was such a pure way of Settlement House work. Really involving family, even in spiritual level. And I remember Mrs. Green was really quite good at that. And she used to supply me with the Sunday school lessons from Second Church. Beautiful picture - you would open it up and there would be a little Bible verse and story. And she would say, "whenever you go to home visits, take some of these and make sure the mother's see them." I don't know if that would fit the times today, but boy it was a fantastic concept. The last one's I remember doing was Cooksey's so that would be in the late 50's and early 60's. And I don't remember from the ?O's on us using that as an emphasis. But I remember doing that. I remember the rummage sale and the Christmas Baskets. And whatever counseling that was needed, were the family service type of activity I was involved in. My emphasis was still on camping, arts and crafts, and athletics. SG: One time on a tour you told me another story that I thought was very interesting. What about the St. James Art Fair .... Chin: I had always liked art and that's why I took to the arts and crafts with no formal training. And I remember in 56, I wanted to take up art. I kept telling Miss Marshall, you know I'm here at the Cabbage Patch all these years and I graduated from high school in 51, went to U. of L. And wanted satisfied taking pre-med; I don't know why I took pre-med. Well, one of the reasons, my oldest two sisters, one went to Syracuse for art and the other went to the Arts Institute in Chicago for art. Of course, you can't make a living in art. Both of them fizzled. And when it was my time to go to school, I kept saying, "I want to be an art major." And my father said, "no way." I would be the third person spending all that money in art. So I think I was talked into going to pre-med. But I was still involved in art, and finally Miss Marshall told me, "this thing is always going to be hanging over your head until you give it a try." She said, "if you want to get some formal art training, I'll help you obtain it." So I signed up at the arts center at U. of L. Back then they didn't have an art department. I think it was called the Hite Institute of Art or something like that. And then I went to New York in 56 and attended two schools; one was a very prestigious, the Art Student League of New York which right across from Carnegie Hall. My claim to fame was that I �helped with Princess Grace Kelley and Prince Rainier wedding invitations. I was into calligraphy then. I remember coming home and Miss Marshall said, did I know there was a large group of artists living right there in St. James Court. And they were people like Nell Peterson who ran the art center, Lynox Allen who was a very well know watercolorist, Ada Jansen, Mary Spencer Nay; all the people that really became art legends in Louisville. All lived in this neighborhood, and I remember meeting some of them and asking them what do we need? And they said, we need a place where we can set up our painting and not have to take it down each time, so we can come back and paint whenever we meet. Finding a studio was so difficult in this neighborhood. People had rooms in their homes but they weren't big enough to let a group of artists come in and paint. So Miss Marshall said that if I wanted to do it, I think she was encouraging me to explore whatever art avenues there were, she said I could set up a studio down in the basement and invite these people to come and paint. So we really had some prestigious artists coming in and painting. And I remember we had so many paintings that we set up an exhibit here in our game room. We had all our paintings mounted and labeled, and had an open house with tea and little pastries and so forth. But no one came. It's such an out of the way thing. And Morris Gifford, one of my painters, I think her husband was an editor at the Courier Journal; she said let's do it at St. James Court, at least our neighbors could see our paintings. So we tied some clothesline between the trees and I remember Mrs. Gifford saying, "I make pickled water melon rind. If I buy all he water melon, will the kids at the Cabbage Patch eat it?" I though that was strange. "I thought you were going to make water melon rind." She said, "I just want the green part. The red part I'm going to send over to the Cabbage Patch and let the children eat it." And I remember, we had a table of baked goods, water melon rinds and things like that. We had about six trees with clotheslines with our paintings on it. People would come by. Of course, most of the one's who came by knew us because they lived in that St. James Court neighborhood. But at least they could see the kind of work we were doing. And that kind of started the St. James Court Art Show. We started doing it every year. And there were three other people - Mrs. Dupont, I can't remember her first name. I keep thinking Ethel Dupont. And there was Ann Higby and Oscar Stremmel. And we were in for forefront saying hey, let's make this an annual thing. Let's elaborate and get artists from throughout the city to come. And last year there was 350,000 people coming through so it's really grown. So I've been involved in every one of them. But Miss Marshall really was good like that. She didn't feel like she was losing me to art. I think in the back of her mind she knew she was gaining/winning me cause she knew once I tried it and wet my appetite I would realize that the Cabbage Patch was where I belonged. So she would set up an appointment with General Electric, Mr. Gilmore, who wanted me for his advertising department, and I remember bringing my portfolio, things I did at New York, and Cincinnati, and U. of L. And I remember how complicated it was. Not only do they just look at your art work, they wanted all your concepts on advertising and meeting the public and promoting certain products that GE was promoting, and it really got to be too business-like for me. I thought you know I �had the artist's mentality - I would just lock myself in and turn out all this great artwork. But it wasn't that way. It was really an eye opener to be involved in the business part of it. In fact, the art work part was such a small percentage of a successful art career in General Electric. You know, it was going to meetings, it was going to brain storming groups, and all that. So when they gave me a trial, and Mr. Gilmore said, "when will we expect a decision from you if you want to hook up with our team." And I never understood whether he did it because of my talent or because he was such good friends with Miss Marshall. So finally I made that decision to tell Miss Marshall no, I think I'll stay here at the Cabbage Patch . But I had maybe three years of really intense art training to see if I could do it or not. And I think Miss Marshall kind of knew that that's the way it would end up. 'Cause she said, I remember one comment, she said, "I knew where your priorities were. If it was to make money, you would have gone to GE; if it was to be happy, you would stay here at the Cabbage Patch." But she never told me which one I should choose. And I remember that. Funny thing, it carried over through the years, 'cause all the years I was working here, in the back of my mind, there was that wonder, gee I should have went into the art field. And I never could get away from that. And finally, 18 years later, when Miss Marshall talked me into going back to Kent School to get a Masters in social work, selfawareness was the big thing. Like self-analysis psychology. And everything we do we have to kind of analyze ourselves and find out why we feel this way. And I remember we wrote these self-awareness papers and one paper I wrote was about my art career that fizzled and all the questions I had about it. And I remember the professor writing back, "your fears were misplaced. Working with young people and working with the families problems needs more creativity than art work." And once I heard that a millstone was relieved. I realized, hey I wasn't wasting my creative talents. I was using it working with the families. And once someone pointed that out to me, I never given it a second thought. That I wasted all this God-given talent of being able to draw. I think that self-awareness kick that I had at Kent School really worked for me. So that's the artwork and I still do a lot of artwork on the side, and I still use my creativity that way. But working with the people is where my creativity really, really shows up. SG: What are some of the ways you've used this creativity? Chin: I have really through the years come up with some really ingenious ways of getting my point across to kids. I know one that I bring up quite often, I remember my model car club. There would be about 15 of us and they would too much grabbing and fighting - and remember I purposely putting 1O tubes of glue out. So five would always be without glue and that was the way to teach them to have a little patience and wait to share, 'cause you can't do a piece of model car without using glue. And so they would have to sit there and wait 'til the person next had finished and, "can I use the glue now." And I remember doing it, 'cause I remember one of the workers came down and said what are you doing with all this glue; why don't you give them each one. And I said, that's the reason I'm doing it. I didn't want the kids to know that I had glue for everybody. I �purposely didn't put out as many to make them learn how to share and be patient, instead of grabbing for it. So that's something, you know, that I kind of created along the way. I do an infamous Kangaroo Court every year at camp. Thirty-some-odd years, and that was another reason I did it. So many of our kids, we would try to praise them, we couldn't find anything to praise them on. So we started doing frivolous things like, this camper had the biggest smile, or this camper swam, you know, a lot of little things that we were making incidental things to praise them. I think the children kind of saw through that. So then I thought, well Kangaroo Court might be a way to do it. We would call kids up. We would give them a challenge. And no matter what the challenge was, even though it was a joke, or it was a pun, or it was a skit, they really felt that they were in the spotlight by being called up. And even though some the accusations were kind of, I wouldn't say embarrassing, but it was kind of, you were the brunt of the joke. Kids were raising their hands saying "pick me, pick me." Like they were subjecting themselves to the ridicule. And then afterwards, "why didn't you call me up?" And then that's when I realized, hey this is really big. Just a chance to be called up. To be in front of a whole camp fire, you know, and then be singled out for being afraid of bugs in the woods, and the solution was you had to wear these smelly socks around your neck the rest of the day. Well, they loved that! Because they were the focal point of all that attention. So Kangaroo Court became such a big fixture, that even when I stopped camping, the people who ran the camp would say, "would come up and do a Kangaroo Court?" The kids really liked it. When I run into alumni they still remember it. "Oh you called me up one time and said I was too slow an eater. I wouldn't eat breakfast. So you poured pancake syrup on my palm so that I had to carry it the rest of the day." And I would say, why would they remember that? But it wasn't the pancake syrup they remembered, it was being called up. And got that attention. So those were the kind of programs that I would come up with that really solved what my main goal was. I had a very successful Can Do club. I saw the Girls Scouts had a contest where you stacked up your Girl Scout cookies. And whoever stacked it highest won an award. So I said, well I'm going to come up with things that kids can't fail. So I had a Can Do club where if you came in and worked out a puzzle or something, or drew something, you would win an instant award. And that was so popular they would line up to come in. Because there was no big commitment on them and it was a fun project, plus you got instant reward. And that Can Do club really caught on. And again it met needs that the children needed. I guess the bottom line - I've used this as an illustration - when you work at the Cabbage Patch, you become a refrigerator. Kids at school in other neighborhoods when they'd come up with a nice term paper or nice drawing, they would run home and the mother takes a magnet and puts it on the refrigerator. Our kids, there is no mother to run home to. The mothers have so much stress and problems; they couldn't care less about what kind of drawing "Johnny" brings home, so the Cabbage Patch is the refrigerator. We hand things up. Any time the kids do something, no matter if it's horrible looking, the children did well, we put it on our refrigerator. And it's that stroking �and acceptance that I think our children really miss. And they don't get it in home. So I tell people, that's what we are - we are the refrigerator. We are the ones who say, "how are you doing?" We stroke them saying, "hey this is really great, you really did a great job." And you can physically see them puff up. I remember walking through the door one time carrying some things, and there were three or four girls blocking the doorway. And I remember, Cooksy went by first and said, "excuse me ladies, we need to get through." And he went through, and I was behind carrying something. And I heard one of the girls say, "Oh, I've never been called a lady before." So simple things like how you address them, how you recognize some work they did, how you recognize their performance or their attitude, is the highlight of their day. Because they get it no where else. And those are the kind of innovative things that we gear our activities to meet that goal that we are trying to get across to our children. SG: In general, what would you say is the biggest change you've seen in the kids today, versus the kids ... you know, fifteen or twenty years ago. Chin: The main one I see and it probably permeates everything else, is the lack off amily. There's just no families anymore. And it used to be I knew the family; I knew the mother and father. Now there is no father, mostly mothers. And more recently, when I sign up for six, seven, or eight year old Fun Club, it's the grandmother who comes in and signs them up. The grandmother who picks them up. They skip a whole generation. Because the mother of these children is so young, they're almost like children too. They're older teenagers. They're into the drugs and into, you know, all the things that young people are into. So the grandmother has to step in and take care of another generation. So that family break-up is so ... and all these single parents, they're not home because of course they have to work. In the old days the father went out to work and the mother was always home. When I made a home visit to find out why "Johnny" didn't come to practice, the mother would be home to let me know. Now you go to the house, the house is empty. It's locked up. The mother's gone to work. So I think that is probably the main change I've seen through the years. The break up of the family. And then the phenomenon of the latchkey kids. They get out of school at Cochran and Noe Middle School and they come here and they don't see their parents until their parents get off of work and come pick them up. And by that time, they get home, and then they go through the whole thing again. So family I think is the source of all the changes I've seen that's happened. More recently it would be gang activities and drugs. We didn't have that back then. It was catching kids sneaking a smoke or drinking a beer. And that was it. Now it's really, really high crimes, that you're surprised saying, "gee they didn't do that years ago", or "when I was growing up they didn't do that." Those two changes are probably the most significant. Very few families live in our neighborhood that own their houses here. They're so temporary. It's either Section 8 subsidized renting or it's into this neighborhood then finding out it's too expensive and they have to move to another neighborhood. So you don't �have that ongoing long-term contact with families anymore. They're here for awhile and then they're gone. But that kind of makes your approach more desperate, more quit hit, because you know you can't work with them from the time they're six years old until they're an adult. But the people who have moved into this neighborhood have remodeled their homes, and priced our families out. Our families are further away now. So that would be another big change. But traditional activities are still here. You know, we're still doing the camping, we're still doing the arts and crafts, we're still doing the athletics. That will never change. But that's not what we are. We're not a mill for turning out campers or turning out cancers, but there's still the drawing mechanism which is kids will come here just for the camping. People come here just to play on the basketball team. And of course, we don't do football. That was a big program. Insurance and things like that have really priced us out of major athletics. Fees for joining church leagues are astronomical. So you almost have to have your own intramural leagues because you can't afford to pay $400 to join the church league and play 10 games. So everybody has gone into that. And all the clubs are gone. When I was coaching the teams, we had things like, "Gentle Giants", "Brady's Boys", "Orange B Boys", you know all those athletic clubs. They're non-existent probably because of the money. People just can't afford to run these little athletic clubs. Most churches have their own intramural, have their own gym. Most of the schools have the after school programs. So the individual neighborhood AC (athletic clubs) are no longer in existence. So that has really been a lot of change. Traditional activities are still going on. But when they get here, it's utilizing the whole, total services that we have that's important. We have homework, educational opportunities, we have counseling, we have crisis assistance; that's the thing that we're trying to hook them up to. Not coming just to going out to canoe. SG: One question I had too; when Miss Marshall was involved, did you see her all the time? Chin: She was here all the time. In fact, if I look back to it. She was too involved. She solved her problems by calling someone at the Second church, explaining the problems, and they would come through financially or they would come through and make an arrangement to visit, Locust Grove or something. She always knew somebody that knew somebody there. And we never were given an opportunity to do that type of preliminary work. I would just sit in her office and tell her, "I need this for this." And she would make up a phone call. Anything that required board approval, every board member was so solid behind her, I have never, in all the times I attended board meetings, I never heard a dissenting vote. Whatever Miss Marshall - I guess it was your grandmother?, Louise Graff, and all the ones �that were there, they all said yes because they were so behind on what we were trying to do at the Cabbage Patch. So almost anything that we asked for, we got. Consequently, years later when she was unable to do it, I remember Dietsch and I would try to run some board meetings and they weren't so enamored with our suggestions that we would have all these knock-out battles. By that time, it was Dr. Mobley, and Rod Zeller, and that bunch. And they were sort of like the more younger, modern board of directors who felt more responsible. You don't just say yes because Louise said it, so we should say yes. So then we started having some conflicts, were we spending too much for this one activity, and not enough for the others. And they were questioning why did we need to go to the Grand Canyon, you know, isn't it out of proportion to going to a little city park for a picnic. And people would start questioning some of the things we did. And I remember after Miss Marshall left, Charles Dietsch tried to run it and he just couldn't do it. Because every problem that we had, Miss Marshall was the problem-solver and now that it was our turn to do it, we couldn't do it. Several board members asked me, "would you want to try?" Dietsch can't even get us all together for a board meeting and write the board reports and to write the budget. We never did that. Miss Marshall never had a budget. It was the telephone. She would call up somebody and someone would say, "yes, I'll write the check for it." And we were really poorly equipped on administrative goings on. And I remember that's one reason Tracy fit in so well. 'Cause he had some of those skills. And the first really effective board member was, can't remember his name, I think Walter Brown, and then later on, Edith Breed, and they had a new perspective. It wasn't rubber stamped because they wanted it done. They really went through the voting process, the evaluation process, to decide where our budget went, how we raised the money. The easy phone calls that Miss Marshall used was no longer available. Running to her to make the decisions was no longer available. So this board really changed over to really being a operative board. And then Dietsch finally got out of it. He just said that it was too difficult. In a way, it was because Miss Marshall was so effective and so predominant in what she did, we were poorly trained. We were well trained in doing the activities, but the background work - we were just out of it. And none of us could do it. In fact, that was the closest I remember thinking that here goes the end of the Cabbage Patch. I remember Dietsch and I had a serious discussion and he says,"No one's approving the way I run it but I have no other way of doing it except the way Miss Marshall did it." And I remember him throwing up his hands saying "do you want to try it a while?" And I knew how difficult it was and I said, "no, not me." I didn't have anymore training than you have. And these phone calls that we would try to make would just be a blank. You know, why are you calling me? We weren't the Louise Marshall calling. And I remember going through all that. The transition and it was really difficult. SG: What era was that? Chin: This is back I guess after she died in '80's, mid '80's. I think Dietsch was the director for about 4 years. Everything just fell apart. I had my way of doing �things and he was more co-worker to me than the executive director. And some of the board members that were so loyal to Miss Marshall didn't want to be on the board anymore. And they felt that it was the ideal time to phase themselves out. So that was a very difficult time. And the one's that came through the years, and I'm thinking of Miss Brewer, Miss Palmer-Ball, Mrs. Peg Harvin, really stuck by us, because they watched us grow up here and they knew we were struggling. And I went to so many meetings trying to decide, how can we turn this thing around. It was falling apart. Dietsch was unable to do it. I knew I wasn't able to do it. Could we possibly stand to have an outsider come in and do it? And that's how come we talked to Napier back then. Because Napier was like us. Napier and Joe Burks also grew up in the ranks but they went into teaching careers and we talked Napier into coming back because he had some administrative skills from his recreation courses. And he came in. SG: In my prior 2 interviews we've gotten a lot, really kind of a lot of information about your life and things. So today, kind of to wrap up, just had some questions, some of them silly, all telling, probably. What's your favorite food? Chin: Any kind of Chinese stir-fry. American food, I guess my favorite food, very basic, I don't eat a lot of meat, but I do like meat loaf, and I like turkey with the trimmings, things that I didn't have much of in my childhood. Chinese don't have Thanksgiving. When we had Thanksgiving it was usually Chinese food. And so those few times I get turkey, I really enjoy it. It's something I miss. Same thing with Easter. We never had ham on Easter, you know, things like that. And nothing traditional at Christmas either. But I guess I came from a ... the top half of my family, my mother, father, my two older sisters were really Chinese. Even though my sisters were all born here in Louisville, but is was that desire of my mother to make sure her children retained the Chinese culture. They knew how to speak Chinese. My mother used to have these Chinese word drills and try to teach them how to write and write Chinese. That's the only universal language. There's so many dialects, just knowing Chinese then helped. 'Cause what little pig Latin Chinese I picked up, when I'd go down to the restaurant and say it to the cooks and waiters who were from China, they'd laugh. It was such a broken way of saying things. But my two oldest sisters and my mother and father were really into the Chinese culture, as far as the haircut, Chinese style of Americanized clothes with the little Chinese buttons and so forth. But then when I came along, and my brother, and my youngest sister, that was passe. We wouldn't have anything to do with that. So to this day, I can't read Chinese, I speak very little of it, I know very little about the culture. But I did remember growing up we didn't have traditional American things; the Christmas tree, the Chinese food on Christmas, the Thanksgiving meal, things like that, the Easter eggs, we didn't do any of that. And maybe that's why I'm so enthusiastic when those holidays come around at Christmas time - I really get elaborate. In my younger days, I used to really decorate to the hilt for Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving; probably because I didn't grow up with that. �SG: Well, now did you celebrate Chinese holidays? Chin: No. I think my mother resigned herself to the fact that she could do it to the first two born but not the next four. We were just too Americanized. Everything she had me do I would find a way to escape it. She made me take Chinese calligraphy penmanship. And I remember just hiding the little brushes and the black inkpad and I'd sneak them over to the Cabbage Patch to play basketball. Same thing with piano lessons - I remember hiding the piano books right in the hedges right in front of my house on my way to the piano teacher. And I'd walk over to the Cabbage Patch to play basketball. And my mother never caught on . They all thought I was a budding piano concert player but I wasn't. I was there at the Cabbage Patch refining my basketball skills. So food, I'm pretty, what's the work, eclectic? I can eat almost anything. Now some of the really extreme Chinese food - they taste OK but it's just not in me to eat bird's nest, squid, and things like that I just don't. It's all on a lot of the Chinese menus but I prefer not to eat it. I went to a wedding banquet at Jade Palace and they served duck feet. Just the thought of looking at it - but they said it was a delicacy but I couldn't eat it. SG: What about - I don't know how much of a reader you are - but books? Chin: I start a lot of books. I've got about ten books on my shelf that I've started then I lose interest when I get about half way through. SG: Are there any books that have kind of been favorites? Chin : Well, most recently I've been reading the royalty family. What's her name Quindlen, who wrote the one about the Royals? It came out when Princess Diana died. I brought it back out since Queen Margaret and Queen Mum died. I've been reading that. A lot of political books. I'm halfway through the Mary Madeline/James Carvil book. Halfway through Bobby Knight's "Season on the Brink". Now that one I'll probably finish. I've got a lot of biographies of political people, Rush Lymbah, I read his book. Things like that, but mostly it's periodicals. I read Newsweek, I read Time, I read People, I read ESPN, I read the New York Times, and of course the Courier Journal from the front page to the back page. So I'm always reading but nothing concentrated like a complete novel. I guess I like to read about people. Biographies. Very seldom do I read a mystery. Very seldom do I read a novel. Very seldom do I read fiction. My whole family reads. That's where I get a lot of books. When my sister finishes reading a book and says, "you've got to read this." I'll start it off and I'll be real interested in the subject, when I get halfway through, something else would come up. I kind of jump around. And I keep telling every vacation, "I'm going to take all my books and finish them." But I'll take them and maybe finish one or two. �But now I'm reading Billy Packer, the NCAA tournament - I'm reading his biography. I'm trying to finish "Season on the Brink" by Bobby Knight. I didn't get the new one that came out. Meanwhile, I'm still reading all the periodicals. SG: It sounds like you do have a few - a few books going. What about heroes? Who are some of your heroes? If you had to ... Chin: I had a lot of live heroes. I think that has really sustained me. Of course number one is Joe Burks. Just knowing his family, knowing his father and the kind of problems his father had, and watching him grow up, and seeing how he really evolved with the help of the Cabbage Patch, and the help of his fantastic wife, Cathleen. In fact, they're are having their 50 th wedding anniversary this coming Sunday. And just seeing how the family has, just one of the top families, top Christian families in Louisville and then watching the son grow up - principal at Male and now superintendent. He's one of my heroes. Of course, Lloyd Redman is one my heroes. I was so lacking in self-confidence when I was younger. I loved sports and thought I was pretty good at it, but physically I was just too tiny. My strength was that I was faster than anybody but a lot of people just thought I couldn't belong in playing. Number one, they didn't give me the chance - they thought, well he's a Chinese kid; what does he know about basketball? What does he know about baseball? But Redman saw that the one thing he couldn't teach was speed and my determination. And that goes back, psychologically, I think, being small in nature, being a minority, I'm really pushed to excel in athletics. I knew I had the speed - I didn't have to work on that. But I mean, it was almost an obsession. I shot basketball so much my fingernails would bleed. And you know, I got to the point I was hitting - I think one time I hit over fifty 3-pointers in a row. Over a hundred foul shots many times. I did it alone. I like that - being alone. One time the janitor - we had a janitor here for years and years - Frank, Frank Hamilton - he started sweeping that gym floor, I started shooting basketball - this was after we closed at 9. He finished doing the gym floor, he polished the game room, cleaned the front, came by and I was still shooting. He couldn't believe that. And I can remember at four in the morning at Central Park, shooting basketball. And I think Redman saw that in me. He probably didn't realize why there was a drive in me but he was certainly one of my heroes because of the confidence he showed in me. And of course, Miss Marshall. Almost everything I do has - it's almost like the thing that's so hip right now - what would Jesus do. I get that with Miss Marshall all the time. Especially involved with what we do at the Cabbage Patch. I'll say, well I wonder what Miss Marshall would have me do? And that has really been a strength, a source of confidence. And so she is definitely my hero. Now my mother is a hero almost in a backdoor way. She suffered so much. When she came over here. I guess she was fifteen or �sixteen, she injured her ear. She had an earache, the doctor gave her some medicine, and in the middle of the night her ear was hurting. And she grabbed something and poured it in and it perforated her eardrum. So she was almost, I guess, 90% deaf. And then so, we really had no communication with my mother. It was all pig Latin. We used to take American words and shout it in a Chinese, up and down, tone, so she would think we were speaking Chinese. 'Cause we knew she was so disappointed that my brother, my little sister, and I wouldn't have anything to do with the Chinese culture. But she really suffered because of her hearing problem. Consequently, she never learned to speak English very well. Whereas, my father running a restaurant, spoke fluently. And she never went out • of the house much because she couldn't hear and she needed one of us to take her. And we were all so busy with our lives, so she was really what you'd call a dedicated wife. She just stayed home. Plus she helped run the restaurant. You know, the people from the old country believe the whole family should be in the family business. So she grew the bean sprouts on the third floor, she chopped the onions and celery, she would go down stairs and vacuum the carpets, and set the tables - all this when the restaurant was closed. So all from evening-on until the middle of the night, she worked. Then she took care of six children. So she's my hero in the sense that she survived all that. She really gave up her life. Because I know a lot of Chinese mothers did that - their whole life was their family. No social life. I don't ever remember vacations until after _ _ _ _ . I don't ever remember taking a vacation. I don't remember my father and mother taking a vacation together. I think my father went once up to Syracuse to visit my sister who was going to the University of Syracuse. But mother didn't want to go. I don't remember the two of them doing anything social. Going to a movie. I think my father bought a new car and took everybody for a ride, and that's the only thing I can remember my mother and father doing together other than running the restaurant and raising the family. So my mother certainly is a hero. And more recently would be Jim Cooksy who was on the staff here. He's just excelled in everything he did. And for a young man who grew up right here on 7th and Hill Street and a valedictorian at Manual. And what's that, Woodcock Society Award at the University of Louisville, top student there, and now has a doctor's degree. And the whole time he was doing that he was part of the Cabbage Patch; on the staff. An Eagle Scout. And there wasn't a thing that he couldn't do and set his goal on and reach. So he's always been one of my heroes. Now heroes that I have never met I guess would be like a lot of people - John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, the people who were really concerned with helping those in need. Mother Theresa; I was quite moved with. You know, I didn't think much of Princess Diana. I knew about her personal problems, marriage problems, and her acceptance with the Royal family. But I didn't know about her charity work visiting people with AIDS, helping with the people who were injured by the land mines, all those kinds of things that she did. Auctioning off her beautiful dresses �to go to charity. I didn't know that until after she died. So then she became sort of a hero because that changed my viewpoint of her. But at the same, Mother Theresa died. And I knew a lot about her. I read up on her. In fact she came to Louisville once to St. Agnes on Newburg Road, by Our Lady of Peace. And I camped out there just to watch her get out of her car and go into the rectory. And I was really moved by her. I saw a lot of Miss Marshall in Mother Theresa. Giving up all the pleasures of life. Miss Marshall had a comfortable life, but she gave that up to come to the Cabbage Patch, and was able to entice all her friends to do that! All her board members are really prominent, well to do people, in Louisville. But they would give up their time to come to the Cabbage Patch and I always admired people like that. So those kinds of people have been my heroes. People who have reached out ... and some were just obscure. I know that one man who started going to schools and telling sixth graders, "I'm going to keep track of you. If you get out of high school, I'll pay your way through college." I remember reading up on him. As soon as I saw that newspaper article, I immediately went to the Internet and tried to find some more things about him. And when I see articles like that I'll cut it out. More recently, Churchill Downs trainer whose going to Florida on vacation and got in a car wreck? SG: Yes, I read about him ... Chin: They said some fantastic things about him, about what he did for the track people who didn't have any money. How he would take them out for dinner and how he was willing to give the shirt off his back for _ _ _ or people who cleaned stalls. They made some good quotes about him and I cut that article out. And I have a whole box of those kinds of things. They just inspire me. Right now, I can't tell you his name. I do know that he went to church right there at Hess Lane and Pendell. And that, it's just tragic. His one vacation going to Florida and they didn't get very far. They got as far as E-town and the whole family was wiped out. Those kinds of people inspire me. Even though they're faceless and nameless, but when I see articles like that I always ... I admired Ann Frank. I read about her. I quoted one particle quote of hers all the time. When she looked out the window and saw all the storm troopers taking away people to the box cars, she knew, she had enough faith to know that someone would come to help them. She didn't know when, but she kept looking out the window. And she finally wrote in her diary that it doesn't take but a single moment for someone to do something good. And so many people wait for that perfect moment and there is no waiting. If you see something that needs to be done, you should do it. And I think I saw that in Miss Marshall and I saw that in all the people that are my hero. But Ann Frank was certainly one of them. So that's quite a lot of heroes! Because I don't, even though I've been involved with athletics all my life, I don't have very many athletic heroes. Maybe the quarterback from the Rams, Curt Warner. He is a good Christian. He started out as a stock boy and ended up winning the Super Bowl. Maybe not because of him but because of the story. �And he maintains his Christian attitude when he's interviewed. That's good . SG: What about if there's a place you've never been to, that you'd really like to go? Is there any place in the world, or places you've never been that you'd really love to see? Chin: I guess its China. I got as close as Hong Kong but back then, you couldn't get into China. My goal was to see all the top museums. I was an art major. And my goal was to see all the top museums and I've pretty much had done that. Well, there's that new museum out in California that I haven't seen. But most of the big museums around the world I managed to go and see them. I've spent vacations where I didn't do anything but go to museums. That, ___ too many places and Cabbage Patch has afforded me so many places. There isn't a good destination that we haven't taken our kids to. So that's not one of my goals I think. I don't think that much about where to go. I'm so satisfied being here in Louisville and the Cabbage Patch, there's no desire to see what's on the other side of the fence, I guess. My sister, she travels a lot. My brother used to travel a lot. That bug never hit me. SG: What about, what hobbies do you have - what do you do to relax? Chin: I still do a lot of art. I do calligraphy when people ask me to. In fact, I did one recently for a classmate of mine at Kent School. She was a water colorist. She painted a picture with a cardinal bird on a ____ . And I said, well you know I do calligraphy. I wouldn't mind doing the little writing on the inside of the card. And she gave me a bunch of them and I wrote on them. As simple as "Seasons Greetings" to some Shakespeare quotes. And she had a whole series of cards and I did the calligraphy for it. That's been ten years ago. And then the other day, Kent School called me up and said they wanted to use that card as their Christmas card this year, the University of Louisville. Well, I do calligraphy and people ask me to do it. And I love the design. My sister, when she was teaching, used to have all these grants. And they would do a little old pamphlet to hand out to the people who are in charge providing the grants and she wanted a little cover design, and I would do things like that for her. So, into art; I'm still into a lot of art. Watching sports, now that I don't compete or participate much, I still watch sports. _ _ _ _ The Masters. Then immediately turned over to watch the Los Angeles Lakers play. Just spent the whole day doing paperwork and having a ball game on. So that's one of my big hobbies. SG: What's your favorite sport to watch? Chin: Basketball I guess. Especially college and high school. High school because I know so many of the players. I've watched them evolve. It's nothing for me to �drive to Lexington just to watch the big tournaments with Joe Burke's kids who play for Male. And one time there were four teams playing and I think PRP had one of my kids playing; Atherton had one of my kids playing; Manual and one of my kids playing; and Male had one of my kids playing. So the four semi-finals all had somebody of mine on the team playing. When I'm sitting there playing, the athletic director of Fern Creek comes up and says, "they're all Cabbage Patch." So that ties me into watching them. I vicariously watch them because I would have loved to have been the one playing. And college, especially if some of our kids move up to the University of Louisville, I'll make sure I watch . So watching sports is another one. Repair - I love to repair little things . Nothing major, but I know the other day a friend brought a videotape and the tape had broken off at the end. And I said, I love to, you know I took that apart and fixed it back up and closed it back up, just little things like that. I like to, what's the word, jury rig, I like to come up with the solution that's not the proper solution, but they come out and say, "gee how clever, how did you know how to do that?" And I say I just studied it, no particular part. I think that's part of my creative juices. And I'll fix it even though it's not the right way to fix it. So it will work after I fix it. I like doing repair. I can repair clocks. I do a lot of little things that are so trivial that I'm almost ashamed to tell people I do it. I think it's because it's not so much the challenge it's the idea that, hey I'm not supposed to know how to do this but I'm going to creatively figure a way to do it. I enjoy that. I do a lot. I'll do some things that I spend hours doing it and then after I complete it I say, why did I spend so much time on this. I've juggled. I can take a key, a skeleton key, throw it up in the air and catch it right by where the hook is. I say, why would you want to learn that? And I've demonstrated that to people and people say, golly you're the only person I know that can do that. And then you say, why would you want to be the only person that can do it. A lot of silly things like that. Basketball - I mean I spent hours spinning the basketball, putting it on my shoulder, and when it came by I caught it in this finger. All that stuff that those little Olympic kids used to do. I learned all that. Just down in the basement. I just had that obsession to see something and do it that nobody else could do. And that's a hobby of mine. When I see something that you're not supposed to be able to accomplish, I'll try it. Nothing big - like taking a car engine apart or anything like that. Little stuff. Just stuff that are meaningless to anyone else I guess. I guess reading is a hobby of mine. I'm always reading something. In fact, I feel, you know, living alone, I feel very naked about sitting there eating. So I always have something while I'm eating, I read. So reading is certainly a pleasure of mine, I don't know if you'd call it a hobby. I'm not into the Internet. I'm not into television. You know, I tell people I've never watched Mary Tyler Moore. I've never watched Friends. I've never watched Cheers. Those things just don't interest me. It's either sports or news. The only two things I watch. And what's nice about it; they have talking heads. So you don't have to sit there and look at them. You just have it on and you can still go about doing what you need to do. �That's very enjoyable. You know, most people when they come home, the first thing they do is put on some music or something. I don't. I put CNN on or Fox news. And then go about. More recently, I acquired a dog. After I had my little heart attack about two and a half years ago, as I was reading up on it, it said that people who have a pet live longer. So I said I haven't got time for a pet. And I just happened to go with some friends to the Humane Society, to the rescue place, and a Jack Russell dog came in - a mix breed. And the lady said, boy if you're looking at this you better grab it. Whenever we get things like this it doesn't last a day. So I got a little black and white one. It was only about eight weeks old. And I've had it for about a year and a half now. SG: We have a Jack Russell. They are cute ... Chin: Little stubby tail; always wagging. But they're real hyper. SG: Very hyper! Chin: And I don't have time to train him. I can get him to sit and that's about it. In fact, I brought him over here the other day to show a couple of the staff, and as soon as I opened the car door, he was gone. And I had to drive around Sixth Street and found him in somebody's yard. So they're fun. They keep me occupied. SG: Oh they're great. What's his name? Chin: Goby. My family named it. I said I want a two-syllable name because you don't want to confuse it with sit and stay and that. And I wanted some kind of Asian name. So my niece in California, whose father grew up here at the Cabbage Patch, he went to the daycare, she suggested Goby. Like the Goby Desert. SG: What about dreams. Do you have any dreams at this stage in your life? Chin: You know, there are some things about me that never happen. I don't dream. At least I don't recall them. I told my sister the other day, I have never had a headache. I don't know - they were talking about - we were in a Chinese restaurant and they were talking about heartburn. I said, I don't think I know what heartburn is. I've never had heartburn. I very seldom have an upset stomach. All these things that people normally have, I don't. In fact, when I have a blockage in my eye, I thought it was a piece of lint. It turned out - I went to Koby and _ _ , and he said that it was part of my heart attack. That it had to show up at the weakest spot and it was up here that I would have had a stroke. Here it just burst some of my blood vessels and that's where I have the blockage. And they zapped it 50 times with lasers trying to get rid of it. And he said, here's the therapy you have - take an aspirin a day. And he said, whatever you have at home is fine. I said, I don't have aspirin at home. He said, you don't? And I said, I never have a headache. There's just never a need for an aspirin. So he said, well run out and buy aspirin. And I said, what kind do I get? And he said, �well I can't push a brand but almost anything is OK. So I just buy the generic, Walgreen's, aspirin. But I don't get things like headaches. Dreams? It's something that's just so foreign to me. I have never had a nightmare. I have never - things that people talk about - probably because I'm so preoccupied with things going on at the Cabbage Patch, there's no room for anything else. SG: What about dreams just in the context of dreams of doing; is there anything you still dream of doing or accomplishing? Chin: No, I'm sure I dream, because I know I'll re-live things that happened on a camping trip. Something with Miss Marshall. But when I wake up, I know I thought about it but I can't tell you what the conversation was or what happened or what. I certainly don't put any meaning into dreams. I never jumped up like that and know that I was going through a nightmare or something with an omen in it. Doesn't happen to me. And recently, I don't even sleep well. Probably because I'm so highly medicated. It's ten pills a day for me. I take six in the morning and four at night. SG: For your heart mainly? Chin: Yeah. Zocor, _ _ _ All those things for cholesterol and blood pressure down. Vitamin E and C and aspirin, and most recently they added a water pill. think my pharmacist who grew up at the Cabbage Patch said that it had to do with the high blood pressure. Just a lot of pills. And I've learned to take them by themselves; I need very little water. When I first started taking them it was very difficult because I've never taken any. You know, I've never been operated on? I've never had a broken bone. I've had a dislocated finger from basketball and dislocated knees from basketball, but I've never gone under the knife or anything. I've only had two stitches for my eye and that's from basketball. The rest of my body has never been stitched or anything. SG: Wow. That's unusual. Chin: Yeah. I've only been to the hospital maybe three times. Once to drain my knee and once I had a - we jumped into the swimming pool at Otter Creek Park to demonstrate scuba diving. And the joke was, we had these golf balls, we called them turtle eggs. We threw them in the water and Doug Wright was going to demonstrate how you put on the mask, skits, and all that stuff, and he's going to dive in and find those eggs. Well, that weekend, the storm had knocked out the pump so the water was kind of murky. And of course it hadn't been filtered. But it was working when we came but there was still enough debris in there. So I jumped in and Doug Wright jumped in. So that was in June and that's when all the basketball camps in stuff. So I took three of my kids to the - back then it was the Eddie Sutton basketball camp in �Lexington, Kentucky - and on the way home, the roads ____, and I pulled off the road and everything _ _ _ . And I got real sick, called my brother, he met me and brought me back in and took me to the hospital. They thought I had, there again, another heart attack. They went through everything and it turned out I had an inner ear infection. And that was from that dirty water. And that's only the second time I went to the hospital. So I've been really blessed that my health, you know, very seldom do I miss a day of work. I just come in every day. It's almost therapeutic, you know. Why not come in if you enjoy it so much? Very seldom do I take all my vacation time. I don't take days off or anything. So those kinds of questions are moot to me. I just don't have those experiences. SG: Well, are there any other things that you'd like to tell the world in our interview as we wrap up? We've covered a lot of ground over ... Chin: Yeah. Well, I do know that there is a greater force that keeps me here at the Cabbage Patch then a lot of people think. You know, well it's kind of great to have a career that you really enjoy. All that's fine and I appreciate all that, but I really feel that, you know, people say, oh you're paying back the Cabbage Patch, and that sounds good too. But you know, somewhere along the way I got this thing, and I don't know where, from my reading or from just - I know I didn't get it from my mother and I'm not sure if I got it from Miss Marshall - but I have a feeling that when you use the words, "it's a calling", it's hard to explain. But I really think when people look at me, or not only me but anybody who is really living a life of service; they should see Jesus when they look at you. And when you work with somebody you should see Jesus in them. It's not just a one-way street and I really feel that. I don't know where I nurtured that because my family wasn't really religious. In fact, for years and years, I didn't know my mother was Christian. We thought she was Buddhist. You know, she can't hear, she can't speak English. And when she died, we went through her belongings - Chinese books and everything, of course we can't read - so we had a cousin from New York go through everything. And he said, you ought to keep this book. And we said, why would we want to keep it. It's in Chinese, we can't read it. He said, it's a Chinese Bible. And he opened it up to, you know, 23rd Psalm, John 3:16, were all underlined! All underlined. And that, until she died, we had no idea she was a Christian. We don't even know the Chinese word for Jesus. I don't even know the Chinese word for God. What Christian upbringing our family had - it's really an unusual story. We were at the restaurant - I couldn't have been more than eight years old - we were playing _ _ _ between tables in the restaurant. We lived on the third floor; the restaurant was on the second floor. And this white haired lady watched us and how disruptive we were. All the people trying to eat and we're playing _____ , diving under tables, hiding behind the counter and all that kind of stuff. And she said to one of the waiters, "where do these kids live?" Upstairs - they live with their mother. And when she finished eating she said, "I'm going to go up there and say something to their mother." And I remember we followed her up, we were all puffed up. She can't talk to my �mother - she can't hear, my mother could only speak Chinese. Well, that lady knocked on the door. We weren't worried at all because we thought as soon as she said what she wanted to say my mother would just nod and say thank you and shut the door. That lady started speaking Chinese! She had been a missionary in China. Nelly Lyons was her name, and she talked to my mother, or yelled at my mother so she could hear, and convinced her that we should all go to Walnut Street Baptist Church to vacation Bible school. And so she, every day, came and took us to vacation Bible school. So all my five siblings are all Christian because of that one lady. Now, my sister, the one who taught out at PRP, ended up at Central Presbyterian Church teaching Sunday school. My brother was very active at Walnut Street, and I was active in mostly Presbyterian Church because of Miss Marshall, and Second Church, and then Highland and then the one that's closed now, Westminster Presbyterian Church, and then the First Presbyterian Church on Preston Highway. But there again, we had no really family Christian encouragement. Miss Marshall in her staff meeting had Bible study. So I don't know where I got that feeling that I'm not here because I'm comfortable, that I enjoy it; I'm not here because how fortunate to have a job that you enjoy. Somewhere I got this feeling, maybe you know, it's almost too self-serving that I'm really doing this because I'm led to do it. It's hard to explain. My sisters and brother, they can't understand. "Why do you stay there that many years?" They've all made it financially. Nice homes. My mother's on Hurstbourne Lane, my brother, you know. I'm still living in this area and I'm driving used cars, and they can't understand that. And it's hard to explain to anybody. You know, I'm doing a terrible job explaining to you ... SG: No, no. You are doing a wonderful job ... Chin: But I really feel that. And I know people who have really stayed here, like Miss Marshall, like Redman, like Burkes, really have that feeling. And we're fortunate that we have that feeling. That solves the majority of any problems you have. Any feelings of inadequacy. Any feelings of burnout. Any feelings of hopelessness - this family, there's no way we're going to reach them. That's all surpassed with that overall feeling that you are really chosen to do this. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ of the day. Against all odds, Moses was able to do yet, you know, the staff turned into a snake, the water turned, you know. Somehow he knew that he was led to do that, and all the things that he was challenged against pharaoh came true. Parting the Red Sea. Because he felt that that was his calling to lead the people. And I'm certainly not putting myself in Moses' shoes, but I, in a certain degree, I feel that. That I could do no wrong. And I'm sure Miss Marshall at all odds; I know she told me that some of her friends shunned her when she started coming to the Cabbage Patch. "Why would you want to go to that neighborhood?" She told me that she had a fur coat that she never wore down to this neighborhood. She didn't want the people in this neighborhood to think she was flaunting her wealth. And she bought Chevrolets. She said, "you know I could have bought a Cadillac if I wanted to." And she said that some of her friends were have nothing to do with her, socially, because she would come �down to this neighborhood. So what was the motivation for her to continue a whole lifetime of doing this. It had to be a bigger _ _ _ _ _ . Better than the little old mundane things like being gratified of being in a comfort zone and all that kind of stuff. And I somewhere had picked that up and that's the one thing I have really never been able to satisfy myself. Why I'm the one that feels that way. And then I see other people -you know Joe Burkes had quadruple bypass, retired, and he still comes and spends so much time here. And you say to yourself, he and I are almost the same. I think if I were to finally retire, I would still come in everyday. You know I said that at my 50 th award dinner. I told all the board members _ _ _ _ and I announced to the rest of the crowd, you know, if they didn't pay me I would still do this. And I've always felt that and I think that's what's kept me here. But it's almost like my own secret because I know no one else could understand that. That funny feeling I have. SG: Well, that's a wonderful feeling. Chin: I'm sure other people have that feeling too. SG: Sure, sure. Chin: But, it's one of those feelings that you can't pinpoint why you're the one that's here and why you feel so confident in doing what you do. It's almost like I can't fail. It's a high calling that God sustains me with everything I do. It's really a, it's an unusual feeling that you can't do anything wrong. And I see that. Through the years, we've never had anything tragic happen in the Cabbage Patch. A big wreck. None of the kids have ever been injured. We've never had a shooting here although we've got kids who grew up with guns. All those things that happen in other places never happen here. Now I'm sure that's a narrow focus but I really feel that. That this is a chosen place and that I'm one of the lucky ones to be chosen to be here. And I'm sure that Miss Marshall must have felt that somewhere, even though we can't verbalize it, we certainly feel it. So that's the one thing that I've always tried to get across and I've never been successful at it. SG: Well, no, I think you did very well at. Chin: But even my family, to this day, my brother looks at me and says why do you have that fun job at the Cabbage Patch? You know, because they know of my potential of doing well in the business world, the art world, it was really unlimited. But I never pursued it. It's really unique in that sense. There isn't a day that doesn't go by that I see a sign that that really worked. You know, I go through collegiate thing and there were so many people who came up to me and talked about the Cabbage Patch, and the work we do, and how they heard about it. It all ties in. There �has to be a divine string somewhere that makes it all work so well. SG: Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to do this. I really appreciate it. Chin: No, this is good. I sat next to Louise, I forgot what her married name is now ... SG: Gardner? Chin: Yeah. And I was telling her that I was going to meet you. And I said, in a way I didn't want to do it, but I found it so satisfying and therapeutic. And she said, you know, I talked to Kathy about what she was going to say when she came up. And it was therapeutic. We started going through all the people who were important in her life and what led her into the cooking and sponsoring Seed to Table. And she said, that's true - it is therapeutic. It was like a counseling session. 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Title A name given to the resource Interview with Roosevelt Chin, 2002 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. BJ C112 Folder 1473, Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2002 Language A language of the resource eng Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1930s 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s Description An account of the resource Transcript of an oral history interview with Roosevelt Chin (1933-2007) conducted by interviewer Sloane Graff in the spring of 2002. Chin discusses his parents's immigration to the United States and their lives as Chinese restaurant owners in Louisville, Kentucky. 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Title A name given to the resource Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Oral History A resource containing historical information from recorded interviews with people having personal knowledge of past events. Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound Roosevelt Chin [00:00:01] Yeah. We have to get on a streetcar to ride out to central. [Rod] Napier reemerged himself through the University of Louisville. Then, when the opportunity came for him to switch from teaching to working full time, at the Cabbage Patch, he took that. I keep feeling it more as a favor to me because there were many phone calls when I was telling him my concerns that the Cabbage Patch was starting to deteriorate. And so he came on board to kind of-- kind of soften the transition. Keith Cardwell [00:00:32] Is he still-- Roosevelt Chin [00:00:33] Yeah, he's still here. He is now the assistant director here. Keith Cardwell [00:00:38] Okay. Let's go through the titles of everybody so that I can get them clear and-- Roosevelt Chin [00:00:45] Right. Tracy Holladay is the executive director. Keith Cardwell [00:00:47] Okay. Roosevelt Chin [00:00:47] And under him, there are probably, what, five departments. The day care department, which is Carolyn [unclear], there's the social services department, which is Liz Kestler, and there is the facilities department, which is Dietsch, and there is the, activities department, which is Napier. And because I couldn't find a department, they just gave me the overall title of special programs. Anything that comes up that doesn't cover, I can handle because my experience was so vast. Keith Cardwell [00:01:23] Okay. Roosevelt Chin [00:01:26] So we're-- Dietsch, Napier and I are sort of in the-- in the same level as far as performance of activities. Although Napier, is closer to the front office, Tracy, than the rest of us. I go through Napier to get to the front office. Keith Cardwell [00:01:40] Okay. Roosevelt Chin [00:01:41] And vice versa. And that's almost set up on purpose to form the buffer between the disagreements and problems that Dietsch and Cooksey and I had. You know, who was supposed to be what? Keith Cardwell [00:02:01] I appreciate your time. I didn't intend for us to spend this long today on it, but all the information has been really valuable. I think not only for my own work, but-- Roosevelt Chin [00:02:15] Yeah. Keith Cardwell [00:02:16] For good record of the history, particularly the current history. So that years from now, people will have access to it. Thanks for. Spending your morning over here with me. Roosevelt Chin [00:02:29] Right. [END OF SESSION] Roosevelt Chin [00:02:33] You know, that first time we walked into this neighborhood. And of course nowadays Sundays, you can't tell Sundays from Saturday. Everything's open. Cars everywhere. Keith Cardwell [00:02:40] Yeah. Roosevelt Chin [00:02:43] Now, I remember the first time I went to the Cabbage Patch. I remember we cut through Saint James Court, and I was just fascinated with Saint James Court. It was much like it is now, except the people who lived there owned those houses then. I guess they're more renters now. I remember cutting through Saint James Court, and I can remember-- I don't remember cutting through the alley, but I think we came through Magnolia. But I remember when I came into the Cabbage patch, I thought I was going into a house and I was going to play in someone's back room, not knowing what a gym was, I don't think, because I remember coming through this-- the side door now-- it's not a door anymore for entrance, but that's where it was, right here. And I remember coming in, signing my name and just following my brother who had been here before. He said, "This is the way we go." And I remember standing in this hallway, waiting for that door to unlock. This is the long hallway that leads into the gym, and I can remember I was starting to feel tense, because people were starting to say, "whose team you going to be on first?" And we were kind of getting ready for the-- when the door open, so we could know which- what gym or floor we're running to or whose team were going to play on, and years later, I can remember how that was much ado about nothing. Because after years and years of watching other kids, I assume they went through the same thing to, of tension, the apprehension. Because now when I pick my senior citizens up and bring them in for-- I can hear them, "Oh, are you going to play peanuts with us?" "No, I think I'll sit with Alex time. I want to play bridge this time." And then, there was that little maneuvering to see what tables-- because you didn't want to be left out without a partner. Yeah. And I remember we stood there and talked about, "Who are we going to play against? No we don't take," they called me Rosie then, "We don't take Rosie, you go down to the other one and shoot. And if we lose, we'll pick you on the next team," you know, we were already planning how we would do it so you wouldn't be like a wallflower. Back there just standing there with nobody wanting you to play with them. I can-- I very vividly remember that. There was that relief, when you knew what team you were going to be on, "We get in there, you stay with us." This is called the main end, the end closest to the-- to 6th Street. "Don't run down to the other end. You stay at the main end so when we pick teams, you'll be there." And I remember all that planning and strategies to get into the gym. And it was such a big thing to us-- to me then. And I remember coming back later, a week or two later by myself, and I walked down Hill Street. The hill was a main thoroughfare, and I remember coming to Saint James Court and looking-- walking to the left of the court and then walking past Sixth Street, forgetting that Sixth Street was where Cabbage Patch was. I remember getting all the way up to 18th and Hill, because I would stop at different stores and I would look and I was just so amazed at the neighborhood, and I remember passing the government project which was Park-- Parkway Place because it was all white then so I had no-- I had no, anxieties about walking through the neighborhood, you know. As it is now, when you walk past Seventh, it's all Black. But it was all white. I remember going as far as Eighteenth and Hill, and I can remember saying, "Well, I know we didn't go this far." And I remember turning around and finding Saint James Court again, and I don't think I ever found Cabbage Patch that day, but I just-- I just had an exploratory walk of my own. Keith Cardwell [00:06:03] What were some of the-- some of the things you experienced on that walk? Roosevelt Chin [00:06:08] I remember a big furniture store and years later, I found that furniture store which is on, Ninth and Hill, Tenth and Hill. I remember stopping in a hardware store and there again, they were-- they were the kind of hardware store that just had everything. The one on Douglass Loop, that way. Spangles, that hardware store-- birdcages, you name it, they had it. And I remember there was one-- I get to the Seventh and Hill or 18th and Hill-- that had everything in there. I don't remember seeing people. I remember seeing an old man walking on a railroad track. He had a cane, because I was afraid I would get kidnapped. I guess this is, you know, the stories you hear from your parents. "Don't wander in different neighborhoods." And I remember avoiding-- avoiding the man at the railroad tracks, so that must've been up to at least Fifteenth because there's a railroad track up that way. And-- and the whole time I was kept-- I kept thinking I was coming to the Cabbage Patch, but unbeknownst to me, I already passed Sixth Street. In fact, you know, I overshot it by 12 blocks. I remember finally getting to 18th and 18th was very busy. Throughout my life, the-- the criterion for a busy intersection was always Fourth and Broadway. And I remember going to Eighteenth and Hill and saying, "This is just like Fourth and Broadway," and back then I think Eighteenth Street had a movie house. They had, you know, a little five and ten cents store and shoe stores and everything like that. But I remember that was my first revelation, that there were other intersections that were just as busy as Fourth and Broadway. If you haven't gone in town, Fourth and Broadway was the epitome of hustle and bustle and buildings and stores and everything. And I remember getting to Eighteenth and Hill and being impressed at how crowded it was. And then I remember, it was years later before I finally-- well, after I started driving and knew my way, that I finally went back to Eighteenth and Hill to see if it was like the way I remembered it was. And it was. I couldn't have been more than fifteen. Fifteen and just-- first time out of town-- out of downtown Louisville and taking that walk. Keith Cardwell [00:08:23] Did you-- do you remember what neighborhood designations? Roosevelt Chin [00:08:29] No, not at all. I remember, only because I played ball against the Fort Hill gang. And Fort Hill is, I guess, where the incinerator is. Merriweather and Preston? Up about that way. And I remember the impression we had of the kids in Fort Hill is how tough they were. And, that was the only neighborhood distinction I can remember. That and all the Catholics were on the same [unclear]. That was always a no-no with Miss Marshall. She didn't want us to really associate with the Catholics. She didn't want us to compete with them. She didn't want us to hang around with them. Keith Cardwell [00:09:06] Did she have any reason-- [crosstalk] Roosevelt Chin [00:09:07] I think it was just her strict conservative Protestant belief. You know, I'd-- more than once or twice I'd heard her saying-- say things like, you know, "they worship idols," and-- and how the priest would try to get you to become a Catholic and all that. Lot of fears instilled in us. Keith Cardwell [00:09:35] Was Lloyd Redman working here? Or do you remember? Roosevelt Chin [00:09:41] I don't remember Lloyd Redman until I played ball for him, but I'm sure he was around. Just-- just understanding the history of the Cabbage Patch and-- and the chronological set up of who worked when--. Keith Cardwell [00:09:59] Yeah. Roosevelt Chin [00:10:00] I imagine he was here, but I don't remember any dealings with him until I played ball for him. Keith Cardwell [00:10:05] What years did you play ball for him? Roosevelt Chin [00:10:07] Gee, I guess I had already tore my legs up. I had already-- I guess I was in college then, freshman or junior in college, and went out for his men's team, or his [unclear]. I remember he brought some UofL football players to play. I remember, a couple of them became big, big stars later on, who played on those teams. Because I was in awe of them. You know, I could've came up to their chests, you know, I was so short. But there again, I remember, you know, I felt comfortable once they knew I could play basketball. Because I can remember Redman bringing in some of these players. And-- and I remember at the time, I knew they weren't Cabbage Patchers because I hadn't seen them in the gym. And I think they were his, I guess, classmates. I guess he was at UofL then too or had just finished at UofL. And I can remember Jim Gatewood, who later became a principal and a FBI man, and a guy named, I think, Getcher, who later became a board of directors or school board or some other prestigious position that you would see his name in the paper so I can remember and say, "I used to play ball with him." And that was my first recollection of Redman. Keith Cardwell [00:11:28] What year did you start college? Roosevelt Chin [00:11:31] 52. Keith Cardwell [00:11:35] And--. Roosevelt Chin [00:11:36] At the University of Louisville. Keith Cardwell [00:11:39] How did the Cabbage Patch help you in making your decision to go to college? Roosevelt Chin [00:11:47] Well, I think I always knew I wanted to go to college. I just didn't go into it as far as preparation for it, you know, looking through catalogues, decide where I was going or how to pay for it and all that. I just-- I think I all along assumed my father would pay for it. And I can remember, of course, going to Male High School, which was a college prep school then. We were all qualified to go to college. And I remember-- I can remember my 10th grade, I made a E in Latin. Back then-- getting-- you know, Latin-- we took Latin. I was making a D in geometry. And I can remember-- I don't know-- I can't remember if it was Miss Marshall or my mother telling me, "Hey, you're not going to college if you don't get those grades up." And I remember really making an effort my junior, senior year. And, you know, I ended up graduating in honors society so I must've really, really pulled my grades in order to, with just the drastic beginnings. And I remember knowing I was going to college, but not knowing where. And, I think at that time the influence of going to UofL came by the circumstances, because I knew if I worked at the Cabbage Patch, I could be earning some money as I was going to UofL and that-- that worked real, real fine. And I think because of that situation, UofL was my only choice because if I went elsewhere, I wouldn't be able to work at the Cabbage Patch, you know, if I went out town, that is. So I think that was almost a foregone conclusion that I would end up at UofL. I really can't pinpoint why I went to UofL, other than the fact that, "Hey, if I stayed at UofL I can still work at the Cabbage Patch. Keith Cardwell [00:13:34] What kind of work were you doing? Roosevelt Chin [00:13:36] I can remember going to class at UofL, walking over here at 12:00 and emptying all the garbage cans, sweeping the gym floor, dusting all the game room apparatus, and then walking back to, UofL for an afternoon class, then at 3:00 walking back over here to play ball, and then went back home at 5:00, came back at 6:00 or at 7:00, played ball, and walked back at 9:00. So it was a lot of walking back then. I remember, you know-- I remember one time I think it was-- it was eight trips over and back to the Cabbage Patch in one day, because I remember I used to say things like, "I've got to do a better plan" because I would play ball so intensely and of course, with-- with my bad knees. I used to transfer the shock and the strain from my lower leg to my upper leg. And-- and I remember walking home and somewhere around Third and Magnolia, I had to sit on the curbstone of people's front yards because my thighs would cramp up. Just so much running and jumping, and I guess walking back and forth to the Cabbage Patch, and I can remember sitting there doubling over, massaging my thighs, saying "I'll never make it home. Next day, I've got to get a better plan, not to walk so much to the Cabbage Patch, you know, better scheduling I guess. Because I remember that it was a lot of walking back and forth. It got to the point, I used to count the lines, I used to count my steps. It was always mind games to-- to get to the Cabbage Patch. And I remember for a while, my brother and I used to walk in different directions. We'd kind of almost like see if we could come out at [unclear] at the same time. He would go down Burnet and up Fourth, up Hill Street. And I would go down Burnett and up Magnolia. And we'd see if we'd come up the same place. And all these little games-- I think we got so-- we got so tired of walking over to the Cabbage Patch. I mean, I guess for a month, we didn't miss a day coming over here. Keith Cardwell [00:15:34] What do you remember about Miss Marshall, from your early days here as a student in college, and-- Roosevelt Chin [00:15:42] Well even before that, the first introduction was her at this front door watching us sign our names. And I remember she would always comment on me and how good my penmanship was. And there again, I get that all the time, because I think people who first see me think I'm straight over from China and had no idea "How-- how could he learn to write so well, you know, in the few months he's been here?" Well, I was born here. They don't know that. Because I remember Miss Marshall used to get at the-- some of the kids, and she'd say, "Well, look how good Roosevelt signs his name!" And I would-- I thought at that time I had a grown up looking handwriting. And I remember her complimenting, on it. I remember she always wore a black coat with a little brown fur collar, and she always wore gloves. And she was kind of-- I wouldn't-- I don't want to say imposing-- she was kind of-- I don't wanna say it in these words-- she was almost witch looking, you know, we were kind of scared of her like, you know, she was-- she didn't raise her voice or [unclear] just her-- her demeanor. I think she she knew what she was doing and she knew she was in charge of the place, she knew it was her place, you know. And I think it came across that even though she was-- well, I guess she was old then-- even though she was an old lady, you didn't cross your path. I remember that. Seeing her just from the side door here, if you came in, I remember another kid who could really shoot basketball. And he used to always walk up to me and say, "Wanna play me a game?" Because I think he wanted to show me that he could out-shoot me. And that was one of my strengths. I thought I could out-shoot everybody else. And I remember for a long time, for months, we would just shoot baskets, I'd say, "No, I just want to warm up, I got the next game." And we would shoot. And I'd throw him the ball and he'd shoot, and he'd throw me the ball and I'd shoot and we never would competitively go one on one. And he was a good shot. And I remember one day he asked me-- one Saturday morning, we used to be open on Saturday, he said, "I have to leave. I've got some work to do." And we had gotten pretty good friends, mainly because of our basketball. And he said, "You want to come along with me?" And what we did was we walked over to Fourth and Ormsby where Miss Marshall lived. Of course, I had no idea that's where she lived. And this was Gary Schaffer, who later became the head coach at Pleasure Ridge Park high school, and Gary's job was to empty Miss Marshall's garbage cans. She had a three story house that her father left her, and she roomed it out. And that was Gary's job, to empty the garbage can, and I went. I went with him. I remember the first day I didn't really help much. I just followed him around, but he seemed to know Miss Marshall really well, and knew where everything was in the house and-- because he had done it before. And I remember one time he couldn't go, so I went by myself because I had already gone there four or five Saturdays, and Miss Marshall asked me where Gary was, and I told her Gary had to play ball or something, and I told her I would do what Gary did, and I emptied her waste basket, you know, pick everything out in the back. They didn't have plastic garbage bags and I think then, she had-- everything had to be wrapped in newspapers and stuffed into the metal garbage can out in the alley. And, I remember two or three time, going on my own because Gary couldn't make it. And that was the first time I remember helping Miss Marshall. So then the next time she would see me at the Cabbage Patch, she would ask me to do things for her, carry this into the gym, or take this sign-up sheet to-- there was another guy working at the game room who was a, I don't wanna say a cripple, he had polio. His name was Donnie Beckhart. I don't know if he was a student working there part time, but I remember running errands for Miss Marshall, giving things to Donnie Beckhart. Clipboards and sign-up paper, probably because it was hard for Donald to get up, being a cripple. And he would sit in the game room at one of the benches, and it was me-- it was my job to run over there and resupply him with sign up sheets or whatever, and Miss Marshall used to give me directions on what to take him and explain how to tell him what to do. That I remember. Going to her house I remember very well. And her in this front hall. Those were probably the most vivid of my introductions to her. Keith Cardwell [00:19:52] What-- what was her house like? Roosevelt Chin [00:19:54] Oh it was a mansion. It was three story brick, much like ours at the-- on First and Hill, except Ormsby looked a little more expensive. The trees were bigger. There was a nice looking car. Of the course the Puritan was right there in the corner. And you-- you knew you were going into a nicer neighborhood. Much like the way you would feel when you're right over by Cherokee Park. You just knew there was a lot more-- a lot more money in that neighborhood than the one I was coming from. And I remember walking. We would always cut through Central Park to get there. I guess we went from here to Fourth and Park Avenue, which would be diagonally across Central Park and then right up Fourth Street-- right up Fourth Street to Ormsby, and her house was the third or fourth one from the corner. I don't remember much about Central Park, except that it was very wooded. I remember the slopes of the park that slope down to the street were just full of underbrush and full of big bushes, because we used to see winos sitting in the bushes and drinking their wine, and it was always a little scary to walk through that park until you passed and got into the open field. Keith Cardwell [00:21:18] What was the area around Sixth Street like at that time? Roosevelt Chin [00:21:24] I remember everybody lived there because all my friends that I met here all lived-- you know, Gary Shafer was around the corner, and his two, three buddies that-- that played ball with us was next door to him. I remember, one of the girls that came out here lived right on the street. She was here all the time. I remember, another good ball player down the street. So everyone that-- that was a good ballplayer lived somewhere right within a block of here. At least, I thought they lived within a block. And, it was all families, and if not-- they weren't rooming-- rooming houses. Everyone owned their house. I remember the sidewalks. There were all these little hexagon bricks. I guess it's not hexagons, maybe octagons, eight sides, those little-- funny little bricks, because that always bothered me with my trick knee. You know, every time I walked, I had to be very careful because they were all uneven, you know, as the roots grew up underneath them. And I can remember the outstanding thing of walking in that neighborhood, especially down Magnolia was be careful for those things. I didn't want to knock my leg out unless I was playing basketball. I didn't want to be injured on the way to the gym. And I remember this neighborhood because of that. And I remember we used to wait to play baseball, and we would always bang our bats on the ground and I remember we'd end up cracking these blocks, which we knew we weren't supposed to do. Keith Cardwell [00:22:51] Do you have any unpleasant memories of the neighborhood [unclear] first, where you lived or over in this-- Roosevelt Chin [00:22:58] No, I remember a couple of big fights between kids from Cabbage Patch that would carry over into the park, and I-- because that was the direction I went home, down Magnolia, and I would kind of halfway pretend I was going home, but I would take a good look at the fight before I went on, and they were usually people I knew and people that-- and I was kind of scared them, they're going to instill that intimidation factor. The ones that didn't play ball I was scared of. Keith Cardwell [00:23:26] You said there were fights that were carried over from the cabbage patch. They would get angry at each other here. And then go outside and fight it out. Roosevelt Chin [00:23:32] Right. Now, I was already aware of, you know, cuss words and things like that from living in downtown, but I wasn't aware of the actual physically hitting and kicking and people jumping in and hitting while you were down, that type of thing. I remember two or three big fights over in Central Park. I remember Mr. Redman was the one that straightened-- that put the fear in everybody to not fight. Just from his bigness and his voice. But I don't remember any direct dealings with Redman as far as, this thing, except one time, the only time I've ever been put out of Cabbage Patch was-- Mr. Redman-- There was one of those tournaments we had here and there again, I remember. We finally invited Saint Louis Bertrand, some of the Catholic teams to be in our tournament and it was between games and the next team, was out warming up, and I think my team playing for Redman had just finished. And I always had this perception, you know, I was one of the star players. They couldn't do anything to me. So I ran out and took some some one handers out there, or I guess [unclear] shots back then, when I wasn't supposed to go, because the next team was supposed to have the floor. And I remember Redman hollering, he called me Dutchman, and he had said "Dutchman get off the floor." I had my shoes on and everything, which was a no-no back then. And I remember, of course all my teammates were sitting around and-- and all the next teams are coming up, and I think it was my way to show, hey, this kid can hit, you know, I was standing there just shooting away. And I wasn't even supposed to be there and the other team was out warming up and, I remember Redman finally walked up and he had a lanyard or I guess a leather thing on his whistle, and he whipped that thing, and he slashed me across the back of my thighs. And he said, "Get out of this gym if you can't do what you're told." And I remember that was the only-- one and only time I ever been put out of Cabbage Patch. Keith Cardwell [00:25:19] What year was that? Roosevelt Chin [00:25:20] I guess I was about eighteen, nineteen, freshman in college or something like that. Keith Cardwell [00:25:26] Why did they to call you Dutchman? Roosevelt Chin [00:25:29] I think because-- I can't remember this but just from-- just from, deduction, I think he called me Chinaman one time, and I think I corrected him because I'd done that before. Chinaman is a slur word for the Chinese. It's like "nigger." And if you call me a Chinese, I didn't mind. You know, a kid from China, didn't matter. But if you called me Chinaman, it was a slur word. And I remember I was always correcting people. Of course, the war had just been over. And the only kind of discrimination we used to get were the people who say, "Chink, chink, Chinaman," as we walked by, or they'd say-- they'd blame us for starting the war thinking we were Japanese? I said, when we were very little living downtown they required us to wear a little emblem that had a cross flag of a China flag, and American flag, just to let people know, "Hey, I'm Chinese, I'm not Japanese. I'm not the one that started the war." Because now they've-- the revelations is that all the Japanese were sent to encampments in California, but that was unbeknownst to us in this part of the United States. That was out in the West coast where all the Orientals were. And, I'm sure it was in the papers. I just wasn't-- at my age I wasn't reading-- I wasn't reading the world news. But they used to require us to wear a Chinese and American type of emblem. We hated to wear them. But I think Redman in a slip of the tongue must have called me Chinaman. And I must have took him aside and say, "Hey, don't ever call me that again," because I remember saying that to other people who would make the mistake, and I remember correcting teachers who would say, you know-- and you know-- "And the Chinaman came over," and they would give them a history lesson, or we were talking about the war, current events, and I would later walk up. I was very diligent about that. "Pardon me, but, you know, [unclear] be called Chinaman and I would say the same thing, I've just been saying years. "You call me Chinese or call me a Chinese person or boy from China. But don't call me Chinaman." And I must have said that to Redman, because as a way to remember not to do that, he started calling me Dutchman. Yeah, I think that's where it-- and the other kids didn't pick it up for that reason. They just heard Redman call me Dutchman. A lot of kids that I grew up with called me Dutch or Dutchman. Because I remember they'd say, "Hey, Dutch can really shoot," you know, using that name, as the terms of endearment. That and they called me Rosie because my first name is Roosevelt. Or else they'd called me-- there was one more they used to call me. Rosie, Dutch and Chino. They'd call me Chino. An ode to my last name. So that-- I think that was the way-- reason Redman called me a Dutchman. Although I can't remember the actual time when I walked up and corrected him. Keith Cardwell [00:28:15] I want to move on to-- to talk a little bit more about your college. You went to U of L. Started in 52. Roosevelt Chin [00:28:22] Yeah. And I should have got out in 55, but I didn't. I got to working here. I remember running out of money because at that time my brother was going to UK, my sister was going to Syracuse, and my other sister was going to a Catholic university in Washington. In fact, all six Chins had gotten college degrees so I was the one that was latest when my father left us. And so money was getting scarce. All these people going away to college. And I remember since I was working and I was in town, you know, I could go with less money than anybody else. You know, "Roosevelt can always make his own money." So I remember working here more and more increasingly and taking a smaller load at University of Louisville. So I really didn't-- I almost quit college, I think. I guess by the time-- by the time in 55, when I should have graduated, I had been-- I wasn't going to college because I remember saying, "Oh, my class is graduating. I should be graduating." So I remember telling Miss Marshall that I think I should be in art because I had always like art. I'd always been interested in it, even though I was pre-med at the University of Louisville and doing hard work, you know? They threw me in taking calculus, taking biology, taking chemistry without really a good background in high school, because in high school, I was in art. I took a lot of freehand art, I took a lot of mechanical drawing and things like that. But there again, I think it's that old thing where the-- where the mother and father, wants their sons to be lawyers and doctors. [END OF SESSION] Keith Cardwell [00:30:05] My name is Keith Cardwell and we're at the Cabbage Patch. Tape number three of the interview with Roosevelt Chin. Roosevelt Chin [00:30:13] And there was that feeling that he had just gotten his degree, and I thought he was bitching about the fact that I remember him presenting things to Miss Marshall, that he-- he would stay if we would provide some kind of counseling office for him so he can utilize some of this training. And I think that-- I think Miss Marshall turned that idea down, that had something to do with us. There was some kind of falling out, not a complete falling out, but there was some kind of disagreement between Cooksey and Miss Marshall, regarding a, I don't know-- a particular house or something that was for Cooksey's mother or something. She had done something for them or something. And there again, you know, the details never really emerged. And then there was the turmoil that was going on here with Cooksey, Dietsch and Chin, the triumphant couldn't always agree, and everyone just had their own way. And there was sort of like a almost like a team struggle, because when you have three and you have to vote, there's always gonna be one person that balances a unanimous vote, you know, and more often than not, Cooksey- Cooksey and I would side on one side and there was Dietsch on the other side. And that made it kind of difficult. And the more that happened, the more Dietsch felt like we were stacking up the odds against them. And that would require him to counteract by coming up with policies that say, "Hey, you two can't do this, the policy's this and this," you know? And then we would feel like he railroad what the policy is just to kind counteract the fact that we voted against it. So all those circumstances kind of add together. And it was a sudden-- there was a sudden announcement that he was getting married and he was leaving. [unclear]. And, although I don't-- I don't sense-- I don't sense a, deterioration of Cooksey's feel for the Cabbage Patch. I think it just the question of availability. He was just so involved with his doctoring career. Of course, he had the family. Now of course, all the major events, he's able to-- he was able to make at least an appearance. So I think falling out wouldn't be an accurate description. It was just that he-- after all this happened, he just wasn't available. It just-- there was nothing [unclear]. So that-- that was the period that was really, you know-- it was the low point of the Cabbage Patch, the way I saw it, that from here on out, we almost had to go up. You know, I think that kind of changed from that point on, and that would be-- that would be the late 70s, early 80s, I guess. Keith Cardwell [00:32:58] Whose idea was it to hire, I'm not sure what his-- what his title is the-- the director? Roosevelt Chin [00:33:05] The executive director. Keith Cardwell [00:33:06] The executive director. Roosevelt Chin [00:33:09] There again. The staff itself was not privy to how those descisions were made. Not-- number one, before it was made, Miss Marshall did it, so she wasn't going to tell us why she did it, you know. And then, number two, in all this turmoil, we weren't included in any decision making. After all, we were the problem. So you never ask the person, you know, the ones that involve the problem, how they solve it, because if they knew, we would've taken care of it ourselves. So I think it was just that-- I think it-- and there again, some of the other staff members have personally told me that-- we think the-- that the executive director was chosen before the offer to solve the problem was brought out. It was one of those things, you know, you already had the answer. I'm going to let them know "Hey, you got the problem, I've got a way to solve it," and the answer shows up. And so we think somewhere along the way the-- it was done backwards, that even though there was a job search and there was a lot of interviews, we think that-- we think the solution was already either stumbled upon or reached in agreement with the board before it was let out that it was going to happen. Does that make sense? Keith Cardwell [00:34:21] Yeah. What were your feelings through this? Roosevelt Chin [00:34:25] I think the overall feeling was my loyalty to the Cabbage Patch was so great that no matter what happened, I knew it had to happen or the Cabbage Patch would fall apart. Cooksey had already left. Dietsch and I were at odds. Staff members from the secretaries on down to the janitors were having problems with the way things were going. There again, they were all the same mold, you know, "Run to Miss Marshall when things that didn't go right." Now, you couldn't do that. A lot of volunteers were beginning to feel that way. "This didn't happen when Miss Mashall was around," that type of attitude. And you could just see it, and you could feel it. The tension and the stress. So no matter what happened, it was almost a relief to me, I think that the "Hey, there's finally, someone stepping in and doing something about it," and that's when we had that change of guard. So I was kind of-- my feeling was, "What took you so long?" Even though I may not agree with the solution, I wasn't going to speak up and rock the boat because I was the one that was saying, "Hey, get me a boat." You know, I didn't care if it was rocking or not. So I think any kind of decision they made, I was ready for it. And, I really, honestly feel like Dietsch was ready for it. I think Dietsch could sense, "Hey, it's not as easy as I thought it was." You know, it was discussed on him, you know, he didn't have any prior training either. You know, Miss Marshall didn't tell him anything extra that-- how she was doing things. So I think-- I think it kind of relieved pressure off of him because he was trying to satisfy not only staff, but the board at the same time. And the whole time he was trying to go through the transition himself. And so I think, in all, those two were the two areas left where Cooksey had already removed himself. And I think that there's almost a sense of relief or a sense of, "I'm glad it's happening." Something had to happen. Keith Cardwell [00:36:21] What's your perception of the Cabbage Patch now? Roosevelt Chin [00:36:27] I think we're back on course. There again, there are still-- there are still methods that I'm not in total agreement with. But there again it's like saying, "The boat is still rocking." But I'm just so glad that there is a boat, you know, that, you know, I'm willing to ignore the rocking, knowing that the boat is there. So I'm-- there's some things I see that I would say, "Well, I don't think Miss Marshall would do it this way," but I think the philosophy and the mission of the Cabbage Patch is back on course again. You know, I feel that-- I'm beginning to feel the same feel I had before when Marshall-- Miss Marshall was running it. The loyalty that kids have for the Cabbage Patch, the variety of activities, the-- the staff that is hard work-- or rather, they care about the kids rather than whether they have the talents, although we like to have both, you know-- the emphasis on caring about the person, the client, rather than caring whether your activities are super or whether your activities are, over 100 people, you know. The important thing is whether you're reaching the individuals. And I'm beginning to see that emerging again. But in the floundering years, I don't think it was. So I think the transition has been nothing but positive all the way around, you know, because I sense a-- I sense a change in Dietsch definitely, and of course, you-- I'm sure he senses a change in me. A lot of the pressure has been released now because the third person isn't here now. And Tracy is-- Holladay is sort of like a new person on the block, so he has a whole new perspective. He's not caught in the Miss Marshall Syndrome that we were in, although he has caught on very quickly on that Miss Marshall permeates everything-- everything we've done around here. You can't you can't escape her, you know, I don't wanna use the word ghost, but you can't-- you can't escape her presence here. Because even though most of her friends and most of her contemporaries have passed away, there are enough of the second generation that are coming around who also had-- were touched by her. So they know what the Cabbage Patch stands for. There's two or three board members who were camp counselors here who came to Sewing School as volunteers, or came as the children. So they keep the Miss Marshall philosophy alive. In fact, when you sit around talking to some of the board members, Miss Marshall's name pops up all the time. So the transition has been good, it was needed, and I think it put us back on course. Keith Cardwell [00:39:01] The power now, held by the board, or held by Tracy, or kind of a mixture-- Roosevelt Chin [00:39:10] Yeah, you don't sense that-- I don't sense that anymore. I think there's enough-- enough built in policy that this will never happen again. It's not going to be-- who was it-- one board member told me, Montgomery Ward was so, insistent on the way Montgomery Wards were run-- I don't know if you're familiar with Montgomery Ward. There's only one, two or three left now in New York and in Chicago, but they used be all over the place, sort of like Sears and Woolworth. And it was dying. They just couldn't-- they couldn't get in the black. And the reason was, the man who started the thing kept insisting on running it with 1930 philosophy, and they finally had to bodily remove him from the office, trying to save the company. And I think we have got enough things written for our policy that it can't happen that way where one person makes all the decision, one person-- to sink or swim on their decision. I think the board has had enough, turnovers so there's enough of a mixture. In fact, the old board members are no longer around. But we have-- we have gotten a new old board members, the ones who were here at the floundering era and the ones who are just stepping in now and seeing everything, working so nice. And so they're kind of-- the ones that went through this transition period are kind of taking the newer ones underway. You know, they've become the veterans now. And I think there are enough things tied into the-- into the way the board is elected. I think now they've got it where you don't just serve the rest of your life in the way Miss Marshall's friends, you know-- some of-- some of Miss Marshall's people, they were on the board as long as I can remember. I think that's no longer possible. And there's all kinds of committees now. Budget committees, long range planning committees, and building and grounds committee, so everything is thought out of-- thought out before it's acted upon, whereas before it was just done on a whim. But I think with both built-in safety precautions, nothing can really-- well you can't say nothing, but the chances of something happening like that, it is lessened, you know, but with this recent Reagan thing, you can never tell who's doing what, in their own department. But I think there are enough safeguards that one person can't just dictate what's going to happen around here. Keith Cardwell [00:41:28] I want to shift back to another focus for just a few minutes. Just have some general questions that maybe you might have some-- some knowledge on. One is, where the Cabbage Patch Settlement House got its name. Roosevelt Chin [00:41:49] The way I explain it to the groups that I talk to and the-- and the group I take around the tour, the name, "Cabbage Patch," preceded the settlement house. The Cabbage Patch was named because the neighborhood grew a lot of cabbages, probably because the River limestone in the-- in the ground or whatever it was, there was a lot of, the term, "truck farming." I don't know why it's called truck farming, except the fact that I think, they didn't grow it for the big wholesale produce places, they just grew it to sell on their own, they would truck it down to what they called the Haymarket. And what they had these farmer's markets, you know, where people pull their truck up with whatever little things they've grown and they would just sell them to people, as opposed to selling it to the Kroger or selling it to the Del Monte or whatever big, growers there were. But I think the neighborhood was called Cabbage Patch, much like Limerick, Saint Matthews, Shively, Beuchel. And then when we started in 1910, Miss Marshall had a board of directors set up on the advice of her father, who was a lawyer, so that Miss Marshall would be-- wouldn't be the sole person responsible for whatever funds she sent. Her advice was, "You gather up some of your friends that are interested and form a board of directors," so that the decision is a group decision, and not just Miss Marshall's own decision. So among her very first charter members was Alan Hegan Rice, who wrote the book "Mrs. Wiggs of the Cabbage Patch," and I think she wrote it in 1901. And the Cabbage Patch began in 1910. So it had ten years of exposure in that book, she wrote. And now I-- from what I can tell, it really got popular. It was, you know, a bestseller. It was in seven languages. There's been a couple of movies made of it. It's been a Broadway play, and, it was required reading in some of the elementary schools. So when they came around to naming the place, it was almost a certainty since Rice was on the board, she was the famous person, the neighborhood had gotten famous because of the book, we were in that neighborhood. It led up to calling it the Cabbage Patch Settlement House. But we didn't-- we didn't invent that phrase, "Cabbage Patch," and Mrs. Rice didn't invent "Mrs. Wiggs of the Cabbage Patch." This was already Cabbage Patch before it was started. Keith Cardwell [00:44:15] At one time, they changed the name from Cabbage Patch to Ninth and Hill. Roosevelt Chin [00:44:24] I'm not aware of that. Keith Cardwell [00:44:26] Okay. Roosevelt Chin [00:44:27] Changed what Cabbage Patch to Ninth and Hill? Keith Cardwell [00:44:28] Cabbage Patch settlement house. It was changed to Ninth and Hill-- Roosevelt Chin [00:44:35] I'm not aware of that. Keith Cardwell [00:44:35] --Settlement House. And I haven't been able to find out why and then why they changed it back. Roosevelt Chin [00:44:39] I know there were three Cabbage Patches. One was on Seventh and Jordan, I think a little cottage by, a-- by a standard plumbing company, [unclear]. Keith Cardwell [00:44:52] You mentioned in-- in the tape last week, that as a child you had gone to the neighborhood house. Right. That was also a settlement house. Roosevelt Chin [00:45:04] You know, I didn't really know of a settlement house until I came to the Cabbage Patch. We called it "neighborhood house," but I don't know the official name of it. I don't know if it was a community center or what. And it was on first and-- I think first and Liberty or First and Walnut, and I remember later on, it moved out to 22nd and Kentucky or somewhere out in that Midwest end, that I've never heard about too. Keith Cardwell [00:45:35] Okay. What were some of the, just briefly, some of the activities that you remember. Roosevelt Chin [00:45:41] Playing basketball in their back concrete yard. And that was the only goal available to us-- available to us, when we lived in town. And I remember that and I remember, an arts and crafts project where we painted these little plaster molds. We got there one of Abraham Lincoln and that-- that's the only thing I remember. Keith Cardwell [00:46:02] What year was this? Roosevelt Chin [00:46:04] Gee, this would have to be in the early 40s. But I guess if the war was what, between 40 and 45-- it was probably before the war. I was born in 33. So from 33 to 40, I would've been what, seven years old? So it was half-- it was between 40 and 45, because I know I was old enough to play basketball. I don't think I played basketball when I was seven. Keith Cardwell [00:46:31] If you had to sum up in one paragraph or a couple of sentences the effects that the Cabbage Patch, has had on your life. Roosevelt Chin [00:46:39] Yeah. Keith Cardwell [00:46:39] What would that-- Roosevelt Chin [00:46:40] Yeah, it was unique in the sense that not only my life, my whole family's life-- my whole family had been involved with Cabage Patch. My older sister is now in a nursing home. Often wrote to Miss Marshall through me, because Miss Marshall was always giving me things to take home to my sister, who would be home from Washington, D.C., and there would be a potted plant, there would be a box of candy or something. And of course, that would mean that my sister had to write a thank you letter back to Miss Marshall. And when she had-- my sister had her stroke, Miss Marshall was the one that stepped in and got her in the apartment at-- [unclear] while she had her recuperation. My next sister had some mental illness, and she had a problem. And without central state for a while. And Miss Marshall tried to get her to come and do some volunteer work. And Miss Marshall had the feeling that if you just cared enough about a person, you can change it. And her idea was, "If I can just get your sister here and get her involved, she would forget about her own problems. She would forget about her own-- her own situation, and she tried to get her to come and do filing, do typing and so forth. My sister, I think the closest she got was the front porch, and somehow she would get out of it some way. And then while she was in the hospital, the weekends that I would bring her in, Miss Marshall would always call and say, "Hey, I'm going out to dinner, won't you see if your sister would come along?" She was really interested in helping. Helping my family. My third sister went through a divorce. Miss Marshall got her son to come to the Cabbage Patch and involved him in the day care. And later on, he helped rent the second floor of his church around the corner so my sister and her little son could live there. And, the little boy eventually went to the camping program and the teenage activity and now lives out in California. And so Miss Marshall had something to do with my third sister. My fourth sister, the youngest one, had nothing to do with Miss Marshall, but she came to some of the dances and met a Cabbage Patch boy and that's-- they've been married for all these years, and that's through the Cabbage Patch. So all four sisters had some involvement in the Cabbage Patch. Then my brother, of course, came here first and took me over here and later on became a state senator. And he was able to-- to provide some services for-- for Cabbage Patch, you know, as far as getting the-- a change of parking signs, he would make the right call to City Hall, you know, that type of thing. And, I think he was able to get some jobs for some of the teenagers too through his connections, the same thing. So every member of our family, other than my mother. My mother was-- was, unable to hear, she had some ear problems. Consequently, she didn't speak fluent English. So 2 or 3 times Miss Marshall just made me take Miss Marshall over to my house on First and Hill, so Miss Marshall could just walk up and hug my mother, or just hand her a pot of the valley or something. So Miss Marshall felt that she needed to know my mother more, but I was always there separating them, saying, "Hey, my mother can't go out [unclear], she doesn't even know how to dress." She wasn't, you know, she was the old country type of person. She can't make a conversation. How can you-- you know, I was just too embarrassed to have both of them really get to know each other too well. And, I-- Miss Marshall would almost insist as I was taking her home, "You jump in my house. I want to give this flower to your mother." So they met 2 or 3 times that way. So of all the whole family, I guess my mother and Miss Marshall knew less of each other than any of the family. And then as far as me, you know, from the time I can-- 13 on up, everything I've done has been some kind of prodding or reprimand from Miss Marshall. You know, when I was first coming around here, I was I was quite wild, having grown up in town. You know, there was some beer drinking, there was some fights and there was some gambling on using my basketball talents. We'd go to the park and play horse, and you know, I'd clean up, you know, we played 21 and so forth. I remember her telling me, she sat down and explained to me that, you know, "God gives you this talent and you're abusing it by gambling with it, by, you know, all the people you run out," and it really changed me over, and plus the threat of, "You know, I can't usually around here, if you're gonna be that type of a person," you know, and my attachment to the Cabbage Patch was so strong that it would-- it would change my behavior. And then there again, with the school thing about not knowing whether I wanted to work at the Cabbage Patch or go away to art school. She were very, very strong in the sense that she didn't say no, because if she had said no, I think I would have done it anyway just to say-- to express my own independence. It was her, "Well, you go ahead and try it then," you know-- you know, "I agree with you," You know, "rest your life you'll be wondering if you could-- if you can be a commercial artist," you know, "I'll get-- I'll call up some of my friends," and she starts calling-- she knew a Mister Gilmore at General Electric, "Oh, I have a boy here that's really talented, and he wants to see if he can get in the commercial field, will you take him under his wing?" You know and then-- "Wait Miss Marshall, slow down," you know, she was ready for me to leave, you know, and that was her-- that was her-- her way of dealing with it. You know, "If you want to go out and try it, you got my blessing. Here. I'll even buy you a bus ticket." You know, that type of thing. And she almost forced me not to back out on the expression of, "Hey, I want to try some art." And that sort of made me go to New York. And then, there again, after that first transition of getting my undergrad-- graduate degree, she finally said, "Hey, we need a better staff. When I leave here," meaning when she-- when she died, "I want to have a professional staff, a social worker here, I want to have this here, I want to have this here." And she said "I want you back at Kent School, picking up that degree." I think I went back there in 69 and picked up the master’s degree. So almost every phase of my life, and my family, you know, has been touched by Miss Marshall. Keith Cardwell [00:52:39] Did she help you out financially to pay for the college and-- Roosevelt Chin [00:52:44] No, she didn't, not at all, other than of course encouragement and providing opportunities. When I was at, University of Louisville, some of my hours didn't fit what was going on here. So she would almost create some janitorial work for me or some filing that I could do at an odd hour so that I can get enough hours in to make enough money to go to school. No, but I paid for it all myself. But the opportunities were only there because she worked it around. You know, if it was just a question of "Can I work here?" At what was required, I wouldn't have been able to accept the job, so she was able to give the late hours and hook me up. But as far as financial, no. Keith Cardwell [00:53:29] Okay-- Roosevelt Chin [00:53:35] Although I strongly feel that she would have if I had asked, but I was never in that position to have to have it. Keith Cardwell [00:53:44] What knowledge do you have of the daycare? It's beginnings. Roosevelt Chin [00:53:52] I only was involved because my family used it. I had an aunt who worked here for about ten years in the office, and she lived on the third floor of our house on First Street. And her three children, all came to the daycare. And, so I was involved in that respect, that on certain days I was the one to pick them up and take them back home to First Street, and then later on, my sister had her children, her child I mean, and of course, Nancy Lawson, who ran it for all these years, was on our staff and she and I got along very well together, probably because she knew my nephew [unclear]. And, so I was always up there more so probably than Cooksey or Dietsch. I think the only other reason any of the staff would go up there would be to get some food from the daycare kitchen. But as far as the dealings with the children, there wasn't a whole lot of anything going on except with me and my-- and my little bit. Keith Cardwell [00:54:58] When you first became involved with the Cabbage Patch, the daycare was already here? Roosevelt Chin [00:55:02] Yeah, but the only other thing that I did that the other staff didn't do, there were some-- I don't-- heaven knows if it's still there or not, but there were a lot of Mother Goose drawings on the-- on the walls up there, and being the artist, I was always asked to retouch them and freshen up the paint. I did that maybe two or three times, so I was involved in daycare in that-- in that respect. But, historically, I have no idea how it began or how they funded it or who paid what or [unclear]. Which brings to mind, that Miss Lawson maybe had given the interview. She'd been here for thirty-some-odd years. In fact, her granddaughter just sent me a invitation to her wedding. And her granddaughter never-- I've never met the girl, but there was a family problem and the Cabbage Patch was very, very instrumental in helping Miss Lawson solve that problem. So I think she feels very, very close to us. Keith Cardwell [00:56:08] What about the clinic? The well-baby clinic. Roosevelt Chin [00:56:13] That preceded me. Cooksey used to go that that well baby clinic, that's what he told me. He was the only one that came here as a, well, preschooler type. Dietsch didn't emerge here and I didn't emerge until high school days. It was Cooksey who was here all before. Now that's just the term I hear Miss Marshall and Cooksey talk about all, such a-- it's such a funny term, because it seems backwards to me. You thinking the baby-- it wouldn't be well baby, if baby isn't well. You know, it's sort of like a turned around phrase. But I heard that term all the years. The well-baby clinic. [unclear]. People don't use that term anymore. Keith Cardwell [00:56:55] Are there any other areas that you have knowledge of that we might could cover briefly. We skipped basically the 70s as far as activities go. Roosevelt Chin [00:57:10] You know, the 70s was-- see, by that-- by the 70s, I was here quite a long time now. It was then starting to become the in a rut type of thing. We were doing the same old activity, it was-- you know, I-- when I finally stopped doing day camp as such, you know, it was 26 years in a row of the same game site, you know, you just got to the point where, you almost did it in your sleep, you know, you didn't really have to come up with anything. We finally left that camp and Napier came on and we've done other things now, but we'd camp at Versailles, you know, 22 years in a row, you know and I didn't miss it once, you know. And, so in the 70s, it was almost-- when I look back at some of those years, it was almost meshed into one day, you know, you just can't-- the trips become regular. The out-of-town trips every year, we'd pick some place to go that was, you know, kind of big, Saint Louis or Chicago or somewhere. And after a while you can't remember which year went-- where you went to which one. But it wasn't the new approach type of activity, but it was fresh in your mind because it was something you pioneered or something that really caught on. This was that, that has all happened and we just kept continuing it. So that-- there's nothing in the 70s that really stands out except Napier coming on as a part time from the University of Louisville and introducing us to backpacking and to a different type of concept of camping. Keith Cardwell [00:58:41] Okay. Who was-- who was Napier? Roosevelt Chin [00:58:43] Rod Napier was a Cabbage Patcher who grew up around here and participated in some of my activities. And then after Miss Marshall, well, he-- he reintroduced himself because he had a class at the University of Louisville, and he thought it would be a good way for them to get hands on experience by requiring them to do volunteer work at different agencies, and of course the Cabbage Patch was brought up. So we saw Napier for three or four summers where he would come and just help us with camp or during the fall, bring students over here to help us run some activities. So then when the transition period came about, after Miss Marshall left, he was a-- they had-- some of the board members asked me, you know, "Well if Dietsch moves up into the front office or if Dietsch moves out of the front office, who would you suggest taking Dietsch's place?" You know, and the natural progression would've been Cooksey but Cooksey was gone too. So I remember suggesting Napier. So when Napier came in, I guess the early 80s, Dietsch was executive director. Napier moved into head of activities. And Napier had already grown up here, already known Miss Marshall, knew our philosophy. Then there was a time when he was going— [END OF RECORDING] Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Roosevelt Chin, Part 2 of 2, March 1987 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. BJ C112 Item 1531, Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. BJ C112 Item 1531 Subject The topic of the resource Chinese Americans Social settlements Community development Religion Racism Christian life Christians Kentucky--Jefferson County--Louisville Louisville (Ky.) Youth--Religious life Youth--Services for Child care Segregation Nonprofit organizations Chin, Roosevelt, 1933-2007 Marshall, Louise, 1888-1981 Cabbage Patch Settlement House (Louisville, Ky.) Description An account of the resource The second portion of an interview with Roosevelt Chin (1933-2007), a lifetime worker at the Cabbage Patch Settlement House in Louisville, Kentucky. Interview conducted by Keith Cardwell. The interview duration is one hour exactly. Contains racial slurs. Chin recounts a time when he was young and tried to walk to the Cabbage Patch, only to get lost in the city. Chin describes the Protestant founder of the Cabbage Patch, Louise Marshall (1888-1981), and recalls her lack of trust of Catholics. Chin recalls his negative experiences with Lloyd Redman (d. 2013), an athletics coach at the Cabbage Patch. Chin describes his early jobs at the Cabbage Patch and at Miss Marshall’s home, as well as his early impressions of Miss Marshall. Chin describes the conflicts between himself and other staff members, namely Charles Dietsch (1932-2020) and Jim Cooksey (d. 2015), after Miss Marshall became inactive in the early eighties. Chin discusses the establishment of a new board and the hiring of executive director Tracy Holladay at that time. Chin describes how the Cabbage Patch got its name in the early 1910s, as well as the settlement house’s connection to famous author Alan Hegan Rice (1870-1942). Chin describes the impact that the Cabbage Patch and Miss Marshall had upon himself and his entire family. Chin briefly describes the daycare and the well-baby clinic. Chin briefly details the Cabbage Patch as it existed in the 70s and the impact of the summer program director Rod Napier upon various activities at that time. <br /><br />For the first portion of the interview, see <a href="https://filsonhistorical.omeka.net/items/show/7008" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://filsonhistorical.omeka.net/items/show/7008</a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Chin, Roosevelt, 1933-2007 Cardwell, Keith Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1987-03-07 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource audio recording Language A language of the resource eng Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1910s 1930s 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s https://d1y502jg6fpugt.cloudfront.net/34455/archive/files/1d01904a1cf59c726e507f641969d3cf.mp3?Expires=1779321600&Signature=uUUGOAKelL1vDnzRh0gfG%7EFe5By8NrlfpCfliLlyDVws0WCNftYy03RwnGihPsceMAYqkicXhfBnAIB-cq3v0l0Bt4YLjvLnYuamUgcRuRK4e4pcDMK3vpeYNPoY76QL11d3mlcy2WZrgcf%7EZtt5UQXMVNLXhvZpcxdKOFkcAij4Xj9ItSCjdIlaHUelHanGCwj3UU-cwJoKue2c0M-XgAlVIEG0AIS5V3-jCWZCFJdbTqj%7E5lnIwi9CpCl83n7SuH8sudfanIKTYvO0oplNyXUw7lQfPcx6p9JwHYBBnC9s4MhecKnwP92IO70RBIZ59L6OpJJR7Bw83yKpliqqog__&Key-Pair-Id=K6UGZS9ZTDSZM 411bdb914fdc73a647b25b6a6de02efe Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Oral History A resource containing historical information from recorded interviews with people having personal knowledge of past events. Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound Roosevelt Chin [00:00:03] I remember telling Miss Marshall-- she kept pushing me. "Why don't you go ahead and graduate? Why do you work here so much? Won't you get more-- take more hours, at UofL?" And I remember finally coming in and telling her that my true feelings were, I didn't want to be a doctor. I didn't want to take all that science. I really wanted to do art. And I remember she was the only one to back me because my father kept saying, "All this money we've wasted and you don't want to be a doctor?" You know. And my mother had told me "oh, your sisters taking journalism at Syracuse. And your brother's taking business management at UK. Why do you wanna be an artist? You know, they're again, being from-- being from the old country that they couldn't conceive of, of following your-- your dreams and feeling. They only look at it in the way of can you make a living being an artist? And you know, at that time, they didn't think you could. And I remember Miss Marshall introduced me to a man named Gilmore, Mr. Gilmore, who was the advertisement director at General Electric. And I remember she almost pushed me into it. And she said to Mr. Gilmore, "Now, Roosevelt wants to be an artist, and I want you to take him under your wing and teach him how to-- how to do the advertising. And I almost couldn't say no because I'd already made this spiel about, hey, I want to be in the arts. And rather than discuss it with me, or argue or try to talk me out of it, she went ahead and proceeded to get me into that direction. So after making that commitment, I couldn't back out. And finally, Gilmore advised me that if I wanted to go into art, I better get some training. Go ahead and register at the-- at the what they call the Art center, which is right next to the University of Louisville. It wasn't part of the university. And so I went there and registered and took a year at the art center, and that wasn't credited towards a degree. And in 56, my father had just died, and my brother was the executor of the will. And he told me, "Hey, there's some money for each one of us. So if you really want to go away to art school, you can." And then the first big decision was when I want to leave the cabbage patch. I remember talking to Miss Marshall and she says, well, I want you to leave. In fact, she almost forced me, said, "You're not going to be hired here until you go to school." So in 56, I went to New York and attended three schools: American Art Academy, some of the night school, and the Art Student League, which was the big thing then. It was right across the street from Carnegie Hall. And I remember in 56 and 57 going to school there. And the reason I chose New York because at that time, my sister who was in Syracuse had gotten married and she moved into New York, in Brooklyn. In fact, that's where her first and only child was born: in New York. So I knew I had room and board. I go to New York. So in 56 and part of 57, I stayed in New York and attended three schools. No degree. The gist of what they call professional training to build up a portfolio of my work. Then I got homesick, cuz I remember I came home for the Male-Manual game. I came home for Christmas, and everybody kept saying, "Well, just stay up in New York." You know? And so I remember Miss Marshall told me, "Don't come back until summer." So the longest stretch was from-- from New Year's to June, my only Easter, on New York and Fifth Avenue. And, "You'll be back in the summer of 56". Then I told Miss Marshall, "I'll never go back to New York again, just too far away." So then I went to the Cincinnati Art Academy in 57, 58, and, and, studied at the University of Cincinnati Art Academy. And then 60, I had all this training, no degree. And Miss Marshall said, "You need a degree." So I went back to the University of Louisville and picked up a Bachelor of Science in art history, which was just another way of saying he got a degree, because at that time they had no art degree. They still had that little art center, which wasn't part of the University of Louisville. So I had to stock up on things like art history and ceramics, things that they offered. But they didn't have the biggies, you know, the painting and the sculpturing and lithograph and all that. And at that time is when they finally made the little transition where the university had its own art department, and in 60, I picked up a bachelor's degree. And then I worked here for a long time until Miss Marshall again, said that I need a social work degree, so in, 67, 68, 69 I went back to Kent School. So that was a long time in between, from 60 to 68, where I didn't-- I didn't do any schooling at all. I just worked full time here. Since finishing Kent School, I have never, never left. Yeah, [unclear]. Keith Cardwell [00:05:19] Well, I want to thank you for being open and sharing all of this with us today. And we'll-- we'll set up another time to meet later on and pick up with your post college days and your leadership role here, and try to cover that in the next--- in another hour or so, on another Saturday. Right. Thank you. [END OF SESSION] Keith Cardwell [00:05:55] My name is Keith Cardwell with the Cabbage Patch Settlement House. Today is Saturday, March the 7th, 1987, 10:00. I'm doing a second interview with Roosevelt Chin. We're sitting in the boardroom at the Cabbage Patch Settlement House. We finished up our last day by, getting you through college and through your degree work at Kent School. I'm going to pick up today with the post college days and your leadership role here at the Cabbage Patch. How was that transition from-- from school to a full time leadership position? Roosevelt Chin [00:06:43] Actually, I had two transition periods because, I went to the University of Louisville, entering in 1952 and stressing out a lot. I remember, knowing that some of my classmates were graduating 51, and now, I hadn't even, come close to graduating. And all that time where I was taking a hodgepodge of-- of courses, I was still working at the Cabbage Patch. And I remember in 56 making a similar decision of, do I want to pursue an art career or stay at the Cabbage Patch. And Miss Marshall encouraged me to try the art field, because I think she had a sense that after I'd satisfy this yearning to-- to experiment, that I would be back at Cabbage Patch, and she knew that all along. So with her blessing, I went to New York in 56 and-- 56 and 57, and part of 58, I attended some professional art schools and, got my fill of art. Came back to Louisville and then came back to work with Cabbage Patch. And finally she said, well, if you're going to be back and it looks like you are, you'll need a degree. And I already had-- I think I accumulated 170 some-odd hours and I only need 120 to graduate. But they were all sorts of subjects that you couldn't collate into any kind of a degree. There was some art history. There was some sciences. There were some humanities. But no emphasis on any of them. So I went back in 60, 59 and 60 to the University of Louisville and picked up an undergraduate degree. Well, my first transition period began after 60, when I knew I was finishing college and I knew I would be full time at the Cabbage Patch. Now, at that time, 60 to 69, I think I relied mostly on the-- on the, power of the activity better than the leadership of me. I was very adept at being creative in presenting activities for the youngsters, but the activity itself was so exciting and different that the kids would join my activities, and really, really, got a lot out of it. Despite my-- my-- my leadership role, I think the activity itself would have carried it over. I had huge, Easter plays. I had a number of-- running some of the Christmas parties for 600 people, elaborate decorations, big plays on the-- what-- we used to have the stage in the gym which is no longer there, now, the teen room. But, some of those, extravaganza were, you know, were really big. You'd spend two, three months in getting ready for it, learning the parts, or building sets, or costumes, everything. And at that time, we had large numbers in Sewing School. One time we took on to-- to do the whole Bible, which is, you know, 300 and-- I mean, we had about ten one act plays that Mrs. Green and I had to write. And each one dealt with, you know, from Abraham all the way-- all the way up to, Wycliffe, writing-- printing the Bibles and then smuggling them in. We came-- we went through the whole gamut and I made costumes for them, I took tents and, and, fishing boats and, Roman forums and the-- and the cave for the Easter play, and all in one play. But now you look back and say, "how in the world did we get all of that done?" But the Sewing school ladies helped make the costumes out of the scraps from the rummage sales. [unclear]. And, we had different people come in and rehearse with each group. And I was coordinated with building scenery all through the building with the Sewing School children, in three different places and, each group of girls were doing their own little story without knowing what the others were doing. Then on the grand day, we all assembled upstairs in the-- what is now the daycare. And--and in the correct sequence, we introduced each group and they got up and portrayed more tableaus-- what they were-- that they just posed in the scene that was most important in that particular story. And-- and Ms. Green or I would read the Bible passage and Bible story that went along with it. So it wasn't acting in the sense that people think of. It was more just, depicting what-- what we want to get across to the children. And that was those-- those were those huge things that we used to do. And, I guess I was so energetic back then, it just didn't faze me to-- to work day and night of some of those things. And the huge Christmas parties with, the 30 foot tree on top of the stage and elaborate Christmas plays and-- and, I was rehearing, building sets for the-- for the stage. And I think that time of the-- of my career, I was probably the most energetic as far as, I was still coaching basketball teams and doing arts and crafts, and I was doing a lot of camping, and, I really didn't feel the sense of-- I felt I was a leader here, but I felt I was really a, without theory or without, real purpose in what my leadership was supposed to accomplish within our park. Right. Keith Cardwell [00:12:27] Well, yeah. I was going to ask, who was Ms. Green? Roosevelt Chin [00:12:32] And Mrs. Green is is Mrs. John R. Green, who-- who was hired here to run the sewing school. And at that time, we didn't have the department as such. But she was, I guess, would be the relief worker, the one that did the home visits, the one who, supplied clothes and--- and food and so forth when we needed handlers. Much like our social services department now. Keith Cardwell [00:12:57] Where did the finances come to put on a production like this? Roosevelt Chin [00:13:02] I don't, you know, there again, I don't remember, a budget and such. It was from Mr. Marshall, who told Mrs. Green she could spend this much and get it done. And we did a lot of what we call a cash advance. We would go down and buy things out of our own pockets, give the bill to Miss Marshall and she'd-- she'd give us back the money. And there were some things that we had to buy, you know. A lot of-- lot of decorations and costumes. Some things we just couldn't make ourselves and we'd have to go out and buy. Keith Cardwell [00:13:28] But we were these plays, presented to the public or just to the kids here-- Roosevelt Chin [00:13:33] To the population of the Sewing School and arts and crafts. And that would be at least 100 children. Christmas parties and plays were sponsored by one of the companies in the neighborhood. The one I remember most is-- it was a paper company down the street. And instead of having a annual Christmas party, they would bring all their executives and secretaries over and their participation would be handing out the presents, an ice cream and the bag of candy, as the children left. And one person, I can't remember his name but I always assumed he was the president of the company, would be the Santa Claus. And then the-- the board of directors and members of the Cabbage Patch Circle would be the, ushers and-- and the monitors, and I would be in charge of the, of the, program, and Deitsch would be in charge of the gifts, and he would order the gifts and get the different church groups to come in and wrap them and have them all ready for the party. Well, it was a joint effort. And Jim Cooksey, the other staff, would be in charge of-- of the mechanics, the borrowing chairs from Walnut Street Baptist church and borrowing chairs from the funeral homes and, you know, 600 chairs. It was a lot of chairs to gather, and it would just fill the whole gym up. Keith Cardwell [00:14:56] What was the name of that paper company? Roosevelt Chin [00:14:58] Gee, I-- years and years, I think they switched names is the only reason I can't recall. We used to call them the Rowland Paper Company, but I think they, they, merged with another group. And, I recall-- it could be Superior Paper Company later, but they would never let us mention their name. I remember that was always my job. At the end of the play, I had to go up on the stage and, announce that we want to thank and I usually wanted to say the name of the company, but they would always tell me, no, you want to thank the Printers of America, which was for the-- the union or whatever agency that, that actually the money came from. There was always some nebulous type of a thank you where we really didn't know who to thank. Keith Cardwell [00:15:45] Yeah. Roosevelt Chin [00:15:46] Miss Marshall knew them-- knew the people, but they they didn't want to identify themselves or-- or take the credit for it, because it wasn't their money. It was maybe just the people who had delegated where the money went. But there was a real big thing about the-- whoever got to be the Santa Claus. Yeah. I don't think it was the same one each year. But that was a period when we were doing the long trips and camping up to Yellowstone Park to Grand Canyon to Canada, to Disney World. The football teams were very large, competing with the high schools around here. And in the freshman leagues, we were forming our own football league, which is now the Living Loud League we started as a local junior football league, but it was really high energy and-- and really, a good variety of activities. At that point, we hadn't-- we hadn't gotten together and decided, "Hey, you do the athletics." Others didn't have you do this and you do that and parceled out the different duties. We just all pitched in and whatever we thought needed to be done, we pitched in and did it. Keith Cardwell [00:17:01] Would you say that was the heyday of the Cabbage Patch? Roosevelt Chin [00:17:04] Those were the days of a large crowd, of no trouble getting-- getting who you want to join. You know, you wanted good football players, they would come from all over the place. Same thing with the Sewing School. We had them transported in from all the different schools, every school in the [unclear]. And, I remember Thursday was Sewing School day and it took the whole staff to get ready for it. You know, Dietsch had to make pickups at some schools, Cooksey would pick up a couple of shools, I would go to anther school. Even our secretary would have to sit at the door and take attendance. They were lined up to get in and we're talking about 80, 90 girls going in. Keith Cardwell [00:17:45] Hey, tell me a little more about about the Sewing School. Where was it held? Roosevelt Chin [00:17:49] Sewing School, there were three department. The beginners were downstairs in the basement, which is now called the Creative Arts Room. The middle group was upstairs with a tutoring room that's divided into-- into two separate rooms. That was one large room. And--- and then the advanced girls were over at the daycare. [unclear] And, they did a dress, among-- I remember the downstairs one was just learning how to do the stitches and make things like a pincushion or a, or a potholder. The ones upstairs, with Mrs. Green in charge-- downstairs was usually in charge of Ms. Palmer-Ball, who was a board member, and Mrs. Green was in charge of the intermediate ones upstairs in a large, what we called sewing room, which is now where the tutoring room is. Mrs. Green was in charge of that one. And they would do things like aprons and-- and stuffed animals, a little bit more advanced, where they would learn to use the sewing machine. And she was good at crafts type of sewing, meaning a laundry bag that held clothes pins shaped like a duck, you know, to hang on the clothes line. And and she would make funny figures. I mean, remember there were these little fat moon shaped people, with little legs and arm. And inside you'd keep your pajamas. For when you went to slumber parties and the boys would have something to put their pajamas in, and Kleenex box holders and things like that. So it wasn't sewing as such, except that you did learn how to do your stitches and then use your yarn and things like that. And then the older ones met in what is now the sleeping room for the daycare. And Mrs. Joyce was in charge of that. And they were the, the ones that are in the third year, and they would use the sewing machines, they would actually make their own dresses and jackets and so forth. And all three of them would be a total between 80 and 100 per week. And of course, they would have, all kinds of elaborate, celebrations, any kind of a holiday. These sewing schools were well fortified with, volunteers. They were all-- all the three leaders, Mrs. Palmer-Ball and Ms. Joyce and Mrs. Green, were very active in the church, and they were able to really get a lot of strong support from Ms. Marshall's friends and people from their churches. So, it was no problem to get 30 volunteers coming for each of these sessions, and each one would bring flowers and treats, you know, it was really a party type atmosphere. Well, these were the ladies that each one wanted to be looked at. And when you put them all together, it was really a nice gesture. And then one thing I remember-- Christmas decorating the room, you know, they were bringing these huge, pieces of magnolia leaves and red candles and, you know, really a Alice in Wonderland type of production. Each one would almost outdo the other one. And, and treats they would come into, you know, they didn't come with the things-- They came out of the bakery down the street. They they came from the nice sheltered [unclear], Hepburn Lane type of bakery. You know, the things that our children had never had a chance to experiment. The little tastes and the little tiny treats were painted. It was not only enjoyable for our children, but it was a learning experience they got to taste some things like-- that you don't get in this neighborhood, and the more they did it, the the more the children enjoyed it and the more the the volunteers would try to top it each week. And I was always in on it, because they would ask me, "Hey, we're getting ready to have Mother's Day, what kind of things can you get ready for us?" And I'd have a Mother's Day poster for each room, and they would bring the lilies and the flowers and the candles and the treats and cupcakes and all that. So that was really a big weekly affair. I guess that was the-- probably the biggest thing going on weekly at the Cabbage Patch all those years. Classes couldn't match it. Well, football was big, but there again, that was-- that was more isolated. It wasn't just open to everybody. Obviously you have to have some skill to play football. Whereas sewing, any girl who's interested can come out and come to sew. Keith Cardwell [00:22:16] When did that phase out? Roosevelt Chin [00:22:19] You'd almost have to say with the bussing because, see, they would meet here--- they'd get out of school, at that time I guess it was 2:20 when school was out and they would be here by quarter to three. All classes were to start sewing by 3:00. And by 4:00 we would take them all home. And of course in the winter months it would be dark by 5:00. But then with the bussing, two things I remember happening was they didn't get out school till later, they started getting out at 3:30 instead of-- you know, all the time I grew up, 2:00 was always the last period. Three-- School would be out at three. But this is when I was in high school and everybody who played ball got out at two. Because you got-- you had to to go to the gym to get ready for practice. And later on I think it was expanded to 2:20. And then with the bussing, probably because we had to start so much earlier--- I think the elementary didn't go until nine something and got out at three something, and the high school-- that kept going one hour earlier. I think the high school even today I think get out at 2:20 and the elementary get out at 3:20. I never could understand the-- why the difference, but I think that's to alleviate the numbers of busses and the-- and the traffic and the driving and so forth. So once the elementary schools, and there were about 7 or 8 in our neighborhood that came to the sewing school, once they were required to stay later, that immediately had a chain reaction. Because some of the volunteers couldn't come because they of course had husbands they had to cook for and they wouldn't get home. Keith Cardwell [00:23:55] [Unclear]. Roosevelt Chin [00:23:55] Okay. I remember some of the volunteer teachers who'd been coming all this time had to stop work. They had to be home by-- it used to be they'd get home by 4:30. The last pickup going back to the schools for the children was usally at 4:00. That means the volunteers left at 4:00. They'd be home about 4:30 to cook for their families. And then when you added another hour that took their time in their schedule. And then on top of that, the bussing moved a variety of neighborhoods into the schools, because I remember going to one of the schools close by, Cochran, and the-- and the principal said, well, you know, you can't just gear it to the Cabbage Patch Kids. I've got kids from other neighborhoods in here now. If we're going to allow you to announce that camping is starting or sewing school is signing up, everyone in the school has to be eligible to come and sign, even though by the distance of travel, that would keep some of them from doing it. I still have to present it to them, at least give them a chance to reject it. And that kind of put a crimp to the publicity angle. We couldn't get our word to an exclusive bunch. But-- so when you started, we'd have to make a general announcement to all the schools in the neighborhood, and of course, a lot of those children had no idea what the Cabbage Patch was or had no desire to even come here. So our kids were kind of spread out because we only talked to the buildings that were in our neighborhood. Some of our children weren't even in those buildings. They would be bussed out to other buildings in those neighborhoods. So we just missed out on getting the word across to them. That, the volunteers and the the time, were the three major factors to start doing sewing school out. And the majority, not the majority, but a lot of them did walk after-- after the sewing was over. Keith Cardwell [00:25:51] When did bussing take effect in Louisville? Roosevelt Chin [00:25:56] Gee, must've been, Early 70s, I guess. 74, 73, 74, something like that. But ever since then, sewing has kind of phased itself out and sewing as such, as recently as last the 2 or 3 years has not been sewing skills as much as it is doing projects that required some sewing. You know, you make stuffed, soft-- softer Cabbage Patch dolls and you did the little old things that use yarn and you did have to grab it and you did have to push it and pull it through. But there was no actual sewing lessons given. Let's see. That finishes the transition period between starting to work here and finishing my undergraduate degree. In 60, I finally got my degree at the University of Louisville and began a completely full time, because up to that time, even though I was full time, I was still taking time off to go to school and do other things. And so from 60 to 69, I was completely full time, and there was a transition in-- the in the building too. I remember one of the key things that happened was we opened up the second floor above the game room, which is now used by the daycare. I remember in 60 we had what we call a Fiftieth Anniversary. We began in 1910. Well, that was a very elaborate type of thing. And we get all sorts of groups coming in. And Ms. Marshall would talk to them and we had a building fund. I remember Ms. Marshall had me draw a huge picture of what the second floor would look in our building, and as each one gave Miss Marshall some money, she would paint in one of the bricks and we tried to paint all the bricks on there to raise enough money for the second floor. But that was in 60, and at that time the teenage program was only, I guess, football and camping and so forth. There wasn't-- there wasn't the what I would call the boy girl dating relationship type of program. And, from the 60s on, once we open that second floor, we called it the Teen Lounge. In fact, sometimes I forget and I still call it the Teen Lounge. And the Teen Lounge is where we first started having things like bands coming in and-- and every Saturday night, the teenagers would get to decorate it up and have little lights at each table and do the disc jockey thing, play the records and all that. And that's when, that's when Ruth Tomlin down the street really got involved and-- and started to develop the teenagers. And it really got there again, quite-- quite elaborate and big. Big dances, Valentine dances, Easter dances, filling the gym up, having bands on the stage, patio lights out in the yard, and umbrella tables, and they really got into it. And that-- that was the time when I was just finished with college and starting full time and knew I would be here the whole time, and we-- during the 60s were all our big campng trips and-- New York-- we went to New York World's Fair. That was what, 64? I remember the whole bunch going to-- going to Yellowstone Park. Dietsch and I took a bunch to Grand Canyon. Cooksey and I took the football team down to Florida. So if memory serves me right, that was all in that time, in the 60s. And the dances were real big and, a lot of the young people that we worked then, would date each other and end up getting married and that hadn't happened here, and I knew maybe 2 or 3 cases. So [Joe] Burks being one, he met his wife here. My sister and-- and her husband met here. And from then on, that's becoming a-- a thing that's more common than not. A lot of the kids did, you know, end up marrying each other-- [INTERRUPTION] but not as elaborate. I think Burks had-- he met-- he met Katthleen here. Keith Cardwell [00:30:27] Yeah. Roosevelt Chin [00:30:28] But it was more just probably opening up Saturday night. I don't think there was the full gym decorating or having-- fans really start picking up once, well, I guess the Beatles, you know-- once guitar start taking over. Up to that point, bands meant trumpets and so forth and actual--- actual musical instruments, trombones and everything and clarinets. Well, I think once the Beatles and the-- the "rock bands" came in,all you needed was a guitar and a drum. So every-- every little group in the neighborhood tried to start a-- start a band and those kind of bands didn't cost a lot and didn't really need a lot of musical talent. So the little teen bands were everywhere. Everybody's garage had somebody's band practicing, and they would come around and ask us if they could, you know, play for the band. And I remember every week we'd feature this and groups would come in. And one-- one day a week, they would come up to our lounge upstairs and play sort of, an audition. And if our teenagers liked them, we'd hired them for the big dance on Saturday night. And more and more-- and I don't remember refusing anybody, but most of them were Cabbage Patch kids anyway or at least one member of the band, and usually there were four, and one member would be a Cabbage Patcher. So, dances, yes-- there were dances in the old days, but not-- not as elaborate as it was in the 60s. Keith Cardwell [00:31:52] Since by this time there were Blacks, involved in all aspects of the Cabbage Patch. Roosevelt Chin [00:32:01] Well, and all that stems in the fact that our philosophy then and this began in the late 50s I guess, 57 first I remember, no, even before that I guess, we were-- the feeling then was, we offered them the same thing, but we didn't mix them. We didn't let them come at the same time. So we have what we'd call the N program, which stands for the Negro program. And we'd closed the-- the game room and gym and the activities at five. Then the Blacks would come in, you know, that's a-- that's a term that came later, the Negroes would come in back then is what was used, and they would stay from 5:00 to 7:00 and they would leave and then the whites would come back in from 7:00 to 9:00 and only if they came out for a team were they together. In fact, at the very beginning, I remember we would have one team that was all Black and one team that was all white, even though they knew each other-- well, maybe they didn't know each other. They weren't in school together or anything. But they did come at different times to play and-- and their very first teams were, we offered them the same team. There would be-- there would be two 17 year old teams, one for the white ones, one for the Black ones. So Ms. Marshall had a vision where she knew that the Blacks were to be treated the same, but she wasn't ready to make the total move where it was completely integrated. She just made sure they all had the same opportunity. They all had a chance to use the game room. They all had a chance to get on the teams. And we did the trips that way. Keith Cardwell [00:33:41] What motivated Miss Marshall to open the doors of the Cabbage Patch to the Blacks after 50 years of not-- 30 years of not having done it? Roosevelt Chin [00:33:52] I think she was always a-- she had that pioneer spirit where she was-- she was willing to try things that other people wouldn't try or were afraid to try. But, you know, there were Blacks before-- Black-- let me qualify that. When-- the general consensus of when when the Blacks used our facilities and joined our group was the Sherman Lewis era. And I remember the story about Sherman was that, you know, he went two or three other places and they wouldn't let him play. And-- but he came here and Joe Burks took a ball and let him play. But he became an All-American, and now the coach-- defensive coach of the Super Bowl champions, the 49ers. The San Francisco 49ers. But that seems to be the-- the thing that everyone recalls when they talk about the integration program. But I can remember even before that, some of Joe Burks's team had Blacks on it, and I remember there was one whole team with nothing but blacks, and I can't remember that coming after the Sherman-- I think it was preceding it. So it was maybe just touch and go back then. But it didn't really count until we completely opened up the building. And that began the time that-- I'm pretty sure because I know when Sherman played football here was in 57, so I would I would always say that was the time, 57, when we opened up everything. But, I think I can remember in the earlier 50s, some of the Blacks having their own teams here. State wise, I'm not positive. Keith Cardwell [00:35:35] Yeah. When-- when did the Cabbage Patch start integrating the teams and-- and allowing the Blacks and whites to use the game room at the same time. Roosevelt Chin [00:35:42] Now at that time the teams and activities were integrated before the facility because the fear of some of the whites and some of the parents and some of the staff was that once we open the doors to anyone using our game room and gym, the-- the proven theory, proven because we'd seen it elsewhere, was when the blacks moved in, the white flight. The whites would move out. That was-- that was certainly happening in the school. Because Central, and I guess [unclear] were all Black, you know, when we were first opening up the schools for the blacks because, well, at that time they strictly went by, place of residence. So naturally, all the Blacks who live downtown would all go to Central and all the whites who have moved out to the suburbs have- would all go to the County school. So just by that selection of where you live, that made it either all Black or all white. So same thing here. We thought once we open it up, all the whites who were moving away-- when I was growing up, the housing project on 13th and Hill was all white. So we could see the-- the Parkway place-- Parkway housing project, and we could see that transition as the Blacks start moving into the project, the whites start moving out. And the-- of course, now it's frankly a totally Black project. And we could see the writing on the wall that once we open our doors, that would happen. And so we thought we better do it step by step. And the first one was to use a controlled group. Football, basketball, would be controlled because you knew who-- who could come out and through your cut system, you could just make sure it wasn't all Black. So we we would able-- we were able to-- well, you hate to use the word quota, but you were able to monitor so that the whole team wasn't all white, which is something we knew wasn't right. And we also knew it couldn't be all Black because that would mean we were chasing all the whites away. So we were able to make a blend that way, because when Sherman played, it was a white and black team. It wasn't all black or all white. And for years, that was the way we operated. Special groups for Blacks and whites were in it whenever was needed. Open free play, we still had that-- the N program. And that didn't change until, gee, I guess when the bussing started in the 70s, in the early 70s or the middle of the 70s when everything started, when we finally opened up the facility to everyone. Plus, at that time, a majority of the Blacks didn't feel like they were being discriminated here anyway because they were at least allowed to come in and participate on teams and in a different club. Because arts and crafts and all that was integrated. Anytime we had a-- we used to-- for a while we did it where-- I can't remember how we did, but I remember there were always two days, Tuesdays and Thursdays, when we tried to have our clubs or hobbies and so forth. And because we knew all the Blacks would also be in the building. We didn't ever want them, you know, although I'm sure they knew it, to see that the whole gym and game room was all white. And then we didn't want the whites to see that hey, the whole game room and gym is Black from 5:00 to 7:00. So we had to come manipulate to make sure that the two open periods didn't clash and run into other because, you know, we thought that could cause some problems if all the whites, were lined up at one door ready to come in and all the Blacks were leaving by the same door. So I remember we would enter and exit at two different ends of the building so that it would lessen the fact that, hey, you know, you all-- we're letting you all use the Cabbage Patch but not at the same time. But we thought that was bold enough a step to take at that time until the-- until the total integration came about where everybody comes to the same door and [unclear]. But I can remember that we were the very first ones because other agencies would ask us, how come we hadn't had any--- there was one time in Louisville when there were riots everywhere. I can't remember when that was. I'm sure that led up to the-- to the bussing part. And I remember a lot of people were asking us, how come, you know, we were primed for a riot. You know, [unclear], someone would come around and burn the place down and all that and-- and I think we avoided that because they already knew they were using our facilities and that-- that's been going on for, you know, ten years, you know, where some of the guys who played ball here already knew that, hey, they didn't, you know, we didn't go at the same time but we all played ball together and we all came to arts and crafts together and Christmas parties and all that. So I think, they didn't feel that they were being deprived. They were only being kept separate as not to cause any problems. Because every-- every activity was open to them, even though they weren't together. There wasn't anything that we didn't allow them to-- to do with the whites except they did it at separate times. But we never did have any kind of rioting or protest or anything or sit down or sit in at the Cabbage Patch and probably because of Ms. Marshall, we started early enough. Because I think we would have-- I remember, some of the stories I'd heard from some of the other coaches and Joe Burks in particular where the-- where the Black teams would come in and just dominate some white team. And back then the Blacks, you know, Central and some of these other teams, there were a couple of teams in Lexington, Dunbar and a couple of these all Black teams, never played the white schools. The white schools stayed among themselves. The Blacks had their own state tournament, the Blacks had their own national champions and so forth. And, even at that time, I think we had some Black teams here. And whenever we played some other white team, you could just see the superiority of the Black players, that probably they were hungrier and they were, you know-- They were more motivated. And I remember one time Dietsch and I both had 17 year old teams and we met each other in the finals. My team was all white and his team was all black and-- so you really can't pinpoint at what time did we start integrating, because we did it in such a way that it was like-- it was like seeing a relative that you hadn't seen in a long time, and suddenly he's grown up and you didn't really see that he got bigger each day. It was a- such a gradual transition. And it probably came about because of Miss Marshall. And the Cabbage Patch started to early. Keith Cardwell [00:42:28] What kind of relationships were there between the Blacks and the whites after having integrated and all of that, at the teen dances and that sort of stuff? Roosevelt Chin [00:42:44] You know, I don't remember a lot of Blacks participating in that. I think it was open to them. There were a few that came around, but, and there again, the other problem that kind of went away was also at that time they didn't-- they stopped doing the slow dancing in the close dancing. It was all just standing on your own, doing the twist, you know, doing whatever it was that they're doing. So in that way, we didn't have that boy girl type of problem that we --everybody thought we were going to have, because it was mostly dancing alone. You didn't touch anybody else, you know? I think that was what was so strong in the 70s. And I can't really remember the Blacks and whites causing any kind of a problem once we opened it up to-- and, you know, I can't really actually remember how we offered Black-- I don't think we had dances for them. A little bit-- that's a little-- that's a little hazy right now, I can't remember. You know, I can remember everything we had for the whites we also had for the Blacks. But I don't remember that being the case with the dancing. I remember the out of town trips, because we would go to Butler for swimming with the white kids, and then we'd announce, "Hey, next Thursday we'll be up with another group." And so they would be expecting the Cabbage Patch group to come but this time it would be all black, you know, and we were doing it that way in those days, but I can't remember the dances at all being done that way. Keith Cardwell [00:44:12] Yeah. Did you have any problems at Butler or any other place when you-- Roosevelt Chin [00:44:16] Yeah. I remember a couple of the-- couple of the groups like that, the blacks would do a lot of-- but again, you can't say it that way because you're-- you're, stereotyping the blacks being the thieves. One group went there and there was a lot of stealing in the gift shop and all that. And I remember, that we had [unclear] taken drastic measures to counteract that. And there again, there was probably-- even society wasn't quite ready for a whole bus load of Blacks to come in. So, in a stereotype type of attitude the shopkeepers all said "oh, they're Black? They stole it." You know, that type of-- where it could have been anybody else stealing it too, you know. Nowadays, you know, it's accepted that, you know, the color of a person has nothing to do with if he's a thief or not. But in those days I think the fact that-- I guess it was quite imposing to see a bus load of Blacks come in if, you're not ready for it. And so I think anything that went wrong, immediately they'd say, "All the Black kids from Cabbage Patch did it." Keith Cardwell [00:45:14] Were you ever refused admission to any place? Roosevelt Chin [00:45:17] I think we checked ahead of time. We were quite aware that some of the other places around the state just weren't ready for us yet. I remember camping, you know, when we negotiate for a campground, you always mentioned that "We have some Blacks in our group." Because we knew, a lot of places weren't doing it yet or were slower to doing it or else hadn't done it to the degree that we had done it. I remember that was always part of our groundwork that we did before the groups. Keith Cardwell [00:45:52] On these long trips you would take to Washington and New York or Canada, how did the financing, allow for such a trip? Roosevelt Chin [00:46:04] You know, again, I wasn't-- we didn't operate as a budget as such. It was just a question of Ms. Marshall would look into the-- she would have 2 or 3, friends of her, they would manage her books, and she would just make a phone call that we had the funds to send this bunch on a trip. So I think there was a budget in her head but it was never written down that you had this much to spend for your camping program. And it was the question of the staff convincing her that it was worth-- it was a worthwhile activity and she would get the money for it. And if there wasn't the money or it was short she would make some phone calls with some of her friends and say, "Hey, we need this much more before we can allow them to go" and [unclear] a check. So you would almost have to say it was her individual efforts that solicited the money to go whenever it was over and above what we normally would have spent. Keith Cardwell [00:47:00] What was your title during the years of 60 to 69? Roosevelt Chin [00:47:04] Just Cabbage Patch staff. We hadn't worked up an organizational chart. We had no designation of who did what. I just know, I wasn't-- I just, by my training would sort of move in on the arts and crafts department. And Dietsch just sort of moved into the women's athletics and the running the whole gaming and gym program. And Cooksey was more into the home visiting and discipline and the counseling and the football program. But it was never pointed out that you're in charge of this area and you're in charge of that area. Keith Cardwell [00:47:41] When did that time come about where you came by title? Roosevelt Chin [00:47:47] After Miss Marshall was inactive. She was in the nursing home for a while, and I think it was just by direction but we did it in such a piecemeal fashion. Sort of like a family running a store. There was no need to, write down that you're the stock clerk and I'll do the mopping, you know. Everybody just did it. But once Miss Marshall was out of the picture, I think people who stepped in to try to continue the operation were amazed and they'd say, "How did anybody know what they were doing? No one knew when they started out." But I think at that point, the board and some of the other people started asking, you know, we had to-- we had to be more professional about it and defend it in a better way. And I think that's when we started working up organizational charts and budgets. And I think that interim period when Dietsch was the executive director, was when we really first start getting into budget and so forth. The [unclear] Miss Marshall had with us, that was never, never, a problem with the staff. She took care of all that. Keith Cardwell [00:48:47] What year did Miss Marshall become inactive? Roosevelt Chin [00:48:55] She died when the sewers blew up, so that was 80, I think 81 when she died. I guess, about a six year period. She had-- she had gotten mugged over at the Puritan hotel on 4th and Ormsby. She had pulled the car up and somebody reached in the passenger window and wanted her purse and as determined as Miss Marshall was she wouldn't let go. And I think the guy swung and hit her in the face. She took off and he was hanging out the window and finally got, 100 yards down before the guy finally let go and fell out and she was just shaken up by that. And I think that was the first sign I had that she-- this lady had had it, you know, she's really getting weak, she [unclear]. And I remember she took a trip and fell, I don't know if she fell in the train or the ship or what, and broke her hip, and they had to bring it back, and, you know, she-- they replaced her hip with a plastic one. And she was in a nursing home, and we felt, "Well that's it. She'll be in a nursing home the rest of her life." And you know, she moved out her nursing home and came back to the Cabbage Patch, not doing anything except being on the phone and conducting board meetings. And then I can't remember why she had a relapse, but they came to the point where she couldn't even do that. But she went back in a nursing home again when, where she dies actually. So there were two times when she was in nursing home: once after the hip and once because she just wasn't capable of doing it again. Keith Cardwell [00:50:31] What was the name of the nursing home? Roosevelt Chin [00:50:32] Gee, it was right across from Bowman Field. I guess it was Trimble County. Her first nursing home was Mount Holly out on Frankfurt avenue when she first broke her hip, but Cooksey and I would make, well I guess Dietsch did too, daily runs to her. She was so particular in what she wanted to eat and who would cook it and all that. And she recovered from that and came back here, because, then it became Mrs. [unclear], the secretary of [unclear], Cooksey, Dietsch and I taking turns taking her home, picking her up, taking her home. Keith Cardwell [00:51:05] She still lived at the Puritan? Roosevelt Chin [00:51:06] At the Puritan, right. And I remember sometimes, you know, it'd be a three hour thing just to get her home, get her on the bed, make some tomato soup for her in the little kitchenette there, and feeding it to her, and then leaving and wondering how she's gonna get-- She was too weak to even get up and wash herself or get dressed for the next day. And I think she had a sitter for a while who would come in at 5:00 and sit through the night and-- but none of them would last. You know, she was just so demanding and so particular in the way she wanted things done. She went through I think probably every sitter in the city of Louisville, until she could get somebody that she could get along with. And then when something happened, they'd quit on her and she'd have to find somebody else. Meanwhile, all that time, in order for her to be at the Cabbage Patch, one of us would have to respond to her calls and pick her up, bring her in, lie her down on the couch at the end of the room and she operated up via the little couch there. And then the whole day she would just lie there and, answer the phone, or we'd come in with questions and she'd tell us who to call to get an answer. Until she got to the point where she could-- just couldn't do it. There were many nights when she was ready to go home, we would almost have to bodily pick her up. Get the juices flowing again so she could walk to the car. So there were two nursing homes [unclear]. Mount Holly for the hip, and Twinbrook, for when she just got too old. Keith Cardwell [00:52:36] How was it during that time of transition from Miss Marshall being such a dominant force to her being-- Roosevelt Chin [00:52:45] I think there was, the word's not resentment, but I think there was a lot of uncertainty in staff and volunteers in program. Suddenly we were without our captain or the person who guided the ship, and everybody was just running around doing whatever they thought was something they'd been doing all along. And I think, at the interim, the board of directors asked Dietsch to be the-- to be the director here. So I know there were a lot of conflicts at that time. I think Dietsch-- none of us were really groomed to do this type of job because Miss Marshall did it all. So we knew very little about who to call for funds or how they did the budget if there was a budget, or how to appropriate tasks to all the staff members. So when Dietsch was asked to do it, I know there were a lot of-- the type of attitude, "Well, Miss Marshall could tell me to do it, but I'm not going to accept it when Dietsch tells me to do it," especially if we did it in an unusual way, because Miss Marshall did it in an unusual way. And at that time I remember everyone starting to form their own organization chart. You know, there wasn't one. You know, in other words I would start saying, "Well, I don't agree with how the football's done, I'm not gonna do football anymore, I'm just gonna concentrate on my arts and crafts." And then Cooksey would feel, "Well, they're not doing this the way I think it ought to be done. I'm just going to start doing my counseling and my own thing too." And then there again, Dietsch. Dietsch would do it the way he thought that Miss Marshall or he wanted it done. So there were a lot of-- a lot of growing pains and struggling, each in his own way, with no one person making it cohesive. Keith Cardwell [00:54:47] Was there any fear at that time that the cabbage patch would fold? Roosevelt Chin [00:54:55] Yeah, I think there was-- not "fold," but not be the same, was the biggest concern. We didn't want it to just become a community center like all the other places. There was something-- there was something unique about the Cabbage Patch, and it's hard to pinpoint what it is, but I think we were more individual oriented, rather than just services oriented. We knew who was coming. We cared about them. They'd be coming for a lot of years. And I think we were feeling we were losing that. But I think even-- even after Dietsch was here for a while, there was always that feeling that the board would step in and change it. I think the board could see, you know, this budget and able to report to us. You know, we didn't do monthly reports, you know. She did it all. We didn't present budgets at the end of the year. It was all in her head. And anything special that came up, like buying a bus or-- or funding a large ship, we had no idea how to come up with [unclear] because before we'd just run to Miss Marshall. So in a way, we were really ill prepared to take over for her because she did it so much of her-- on her own. So I think the board could sense-- and it must've been frustrating for Dietsch too, because he was-- he was in here-- he was in the middle, you know, he was trying to-- trying to be part of the team, of the staff. And then here he-- here at the other end the board was bombarding him with all these questions. How, you know, "How are we running this thing? How come no one knows what we're doing?" You know, and so forth. And, well-- so he was kind of caught in the middle, and I think everyone could sense that something had to be done. You just can't flounder this way. A lot of-- a lot of short tempers and there was a lot of refusing to work with each other and there was a lot of activities canceled because we thought the other person wasn't backing what we were doing. And it was hard to convince another staff member to do it, even though it was hard to convince Miss Marshall. I think Miss Marshall-- Miss Marshall's diplomatic talents were so much greater. She would individually go for the others, and saw that all three of us agreed. But now there wasn't that arbitrator there. And sp each one just went their own way. Keith Cardwell [00:57:21] What kind of power struggle did you see with the board who seemed to me-- [crosstalk]. Roosevelt Chin [00:57:26] [Crosstalk]-- There were some who were still the old, Miss Marshall's friend who knew us and call us their boys, you know, and watched us grow up and mature here, who still felt like even though we-- we weren't quite as professional as we should have been, they weren't either as board of directors. They were just good friends of Miss Marshall. They had a good heart. They cared about what happened to this place. There was that faction and-- and there was the new blood who were coming in, who were the young professionals. Well, not young, but they were professional type of people. Because there again, without Miss Marshall at the helm, a lot of the board members, they didn't know what to do either. So they'd say, "Let's make sure so and so comes in. He's a lawyer! And make sure so and so comes in. He's a bookkeeper!" And so some of these professional skilled people would come into the board and, of course, they didn't know anything about the past history of how Miss Marshall ran it. So they could only see, "Hey, this [unclear] they don't even have a budget there. They don't even know how-- you know, they don't have an organizational chart." So you can see the dichotomy of the old time board member who was just really Miss Marshall's friend, and the new professional who saw, "Hey, this is a challenge. They've asked me to come on the board of directors. I'm not gonna sit by and watch this thing flounder." But you could see that. That transition. So eventually, I think the-- after 2 or 3 years and the new members being voted in, I think the new bunch started asking enough questions, that the old bunch, who were again, getting up in their 90s and not able to make all the meetings and so forth, couldn't answer because no one could answer these questions. Miss Marshall had all the answers. So that bunch sort of faded out. And then the newer bunch, the more board oriented type of person, started taking over. And they could see, "Hey, this place is really, really-- there's too many skeletons and too many people not knowing what to do, probably because everyone depended on Miss Marshall so much. So this new bunch started-- started implementing things that we had never been exposed to before. Suddenly, "Hey, we went, you all-- you guys to come up with an organization chart so we'll know what Cooksey's doing. We'll know what Chin's doing." And they'd start coming up with things like, "You've got to work out some kind of budget. You know, we can't make decisions. We can't make both-- we don't even know how much we're supposed to be spending. And you all go through those programs and you all come up with a budget." And none of us really know how to set up a budget. And a lot of those little things, were the writing on the wall. I mean, you just sensed [unclear]. Keith Cardwell [01:00:03] Was it during this time with Cooksey left? Roosevelt Chin [01:00:07] Yeah, it almost straddled it. There was-- there was something nebulous about the, Cooksey leaving. I mean, even to this day, I don't think anyone could really pinpoint. There again, you hate to repeat rumors. You hate to, you know-- you can only speculate. And the three areas I can think of, was-- was number one, he was finishing up his-- [end of recording] Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Roosevelt Chin, Part 1 of 2, February-March, 1987 Subject The topic of the resource Child care Chinese Americans Youth--Services for Youth--Religious life Kentucky Kentucky--Louisville Christians Christian life Segregation Religion Community development Social settlements Nonprofit organizations Chin, Roosevelt, 1933-2007 Marshall, Louise, 1888-1981 Cabbage Patch Settlement House (Louisville, Ky.) Description An account of the resource The first of a two-part interview with Roosevelt Chin (1933-2007), a lifetime worker at the Cabbage Patch Settlement House in Louisville, Kentucky. Interview conducted by Keith Cardwell. The interview duration is one hour and thirty-four seconds. Chin describes his college years and the transition from being a full-time student to accepting a full-time leadership position at the Cabbage Patch Settlement House. Chin describes the various theatrical productions and parties that he helped organize at the Cabbage Patch. Chin describes the innerworkings of the Sewing School. Chin opines on how the changes in school bussing schedules brought about a low period for the Cabbage Patch. Chin describes the process by which Black people were integrated into the Cabbage Patch in the late 1950s. Chin describes the years of declining health in the life of the founder of the Cabbage Patch, Louise Marshall (1888-1981). Chin details the responsibilities to Miss Marshall which were put upon him and other Cabbage Patch staff members who were close to Miss Marshall during her final years. Chin describes the conflicts between board members and staff members of the Cabbage Patch after Miss Marshall became inactive in the early 1980s. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Chin, Roosevelt, 1933-2007 Cardwell, Keith Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century 1930s 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Mss. BJ C112 Item 1530, Cabbage Patch Settlement House Records, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Mss. 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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Film and Video Collections Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Various collections, The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available The Filson Historical Society, Louisville, Kentucky Language A language of the resource eng Type The nature or genre of the resource Collection Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 20th century Moving Image A series of visual representations imparting an impression of motion when shown in succession. Examples include animations, movies, television programs, videos, zoetropes, or visual output from a simulation. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data 8mm film Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 8 minutes, 27 seconds Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Kentuckiana Scuba-Diving Club film, winter 1960 Subject The topic of the resource Scuba diving Jeffersontown (Ky.) Tucker Lake (Jeffersontown, Ky.) Kentuckiana Scuba-Diving Clu Description An account of the resource Color film of the Kentuckiana Scuba-Diving Club diving in the iced-over Tucker Lake, Jefferson County, Kentucky, in the winter of 1960. Thomas L. Schmitt was a member of the club and captured the film. The footage includes scenes above and under the ice, and the divers exploring the lakebed. 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